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Offline drummerboy25

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That's not in the Bible!
« on: June 18, 2005, 09:13:32 PM »
how many of u ever hear people say things that make u scratch u're head? this is especially true in the church. many of us say things that aren't scripturally based, yet we think it is. here are my top 4 scripture quotes that are nowhere in the Bible, even though we use it often.

1. David said, If I had 10,000 tongues...

2. Come as you are.

3. Take 1 step, God will take 2.

4. God helps those who help themselves.

NONE of This is in the Bible! the're just quotes people say and because they sound good and are catchy sayings we use them.

II Tim. 2:15-Tells us to, "Study to show thyself approved..."
we need 2 know God's word 4 ourselves so we won't be mislead by others. feel free 2 add more if u think of them, these are the major 4 to me.  :idea:

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« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2005, 10:06:54 PM »
Here's some others:

1. When a preacher says, "He has the power to bless and curse."

2. Devil made me do it.

3. Going to church makes you a Christian.



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That's not in the Bible!
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2005, 10:13:27 PM »
How about "The Bible says when the praises go up the blessings come down!" Where is that?

Be Blessed  :D
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« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2005, 01:59:40 PM »
How about this...

"Hallelujah is the highest praise."

I've been told this is true.  I've been told this is NOT true.  Is this biblically sound?

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That's not in the Bible!
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2005, 07:57:14 PM »
Here's One:  The Bible Say's that "Cleanliness is Next to Godliness"
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« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2005, 08:08:53 PM »
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How about "The Bible says when the praises go up the blessings come down!" Where is that?

Be Blessed  :D


This is To BBoy. There is no scripture where that is said but there are plenty examples. (1 Chor. 20:17-25, Acts 16:25, Book of Joshua when children of Israel went to Jericho, I could go on and on) The point is alot of people say this and this is true. God told me that the level of your praise will determine the level of your breakthrough....
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« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2005, 08:11:52 PM »
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How about this...

"Hallelujah is the highest praise."

I've been told this is true.  I've been told this is NOT true.  Is this biblically sound?


Xljiccfa, this is not in the King James Version, but if you study the original hebrew and greek bible, this is true. Hallelujuah is the highest form of praise. Study this out and see for yourself. You might learn yourself something lol.
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« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2005, 08:22:22 PM »
Quote from: JoyCH
Here's some others:

1. When a preacher says, "He has the power to bless and curse."

2. Devil made me do it.

3. Going to church makes you a Christian.



Joy


Joy, you read throughout Genesis all the things God has blessed. Obivously he has the power to bless lol. God blesses when we choose life, but the law of the curse (sin and death) takes affect when you choose to live out side of Gods set boundaries. As for  the devil made me do it, that is never true. God has given us freewill, the devil didnt mke Adam eat the fruit he did on his own will. Finally, going to church doesnt make you a christian (Roman 10 9 10 clearly stats that) but going to church is what christian people DO in order to be fed the word of God. Hope this helps.
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« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2005, 01:50:05 AM »
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Joy, you read throughout Genesis all the things God has blessed. Obivously he has the power to bless lol. God blesses when we choose life, but the law of the curse (sin and death) takes affect when you choose to live out side of Gods set boundaries. As for the devil made me do it, that is never true. God has given us freewill, the devil didnt mke Adam eat the fruit he did on his own will. Finally, going to church doesnt make you a christian (Roman 10 9 10 clearly stats that) but going to church is what christian people DO in order to be fed the word of God. Hope this helps



Lilmanofgod...Joy was talkin about the Preachers sayin: That they have the power to bless or curse you

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Xljiccfa, this is not in the King James Version, but if you study the original hebrew and greek bible, this is true. Hallelujuah is the highest form of praise. Study this out and see for yourself. You might learn yourself something lol.


is there a book out there cuz i cant read hebrew or greek......and hallelujah is the higest form of praise then what is the highest praise?



 

Lilman what your sayin I can agree with...but i think this thread was posted to see/hear-some things that are said very often in chruch that arent bibically based and people seem to go with it...using scriptures out of context and flowin with it....and thats not how God intended for us to use his word....I dont want to seem abrasive...its kinda sems like you're blasting these people. :? .when this is basically share what you've  heard in church thats makes you raise one eyebrow :wink:
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« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2005, 02:16:24 AM »
Thanks for your post brother Lorenso . . . . I chose not to say anything, so thank you for your support. As a Bible teacher, I hear a lot of people saying "the Bible says this" when the Bible says no such thing. That is dangerous, regardless of what the person intended or even if the person didn't know any better.

When Eve added to the Word of GOD, she opened herself to deception. We must be careful what we say when people say "The Bible says this" because GOD is only obligated to confirm what His Word ACTUALLY SAYS, not what people THINK it says. Follow me here?

Finally, many folks simply don't have the background to check for themselves what the Bible says. So if someone says "The Bible says such and such," they will simply think that it is so. See how dangerous that can be?

By the way, there are times when the praises went up and the blessings didn't come down, because the people were not living holy lives. Read the account of Hophni and Phineas, who thought they could live nasty lives and go singing into battle. They were beaten all day long!  

Once again, when the children of Israel were on their way to Babylonian captivity, their captors actually told them to sing the songs they sang when they were in Israel. This was completely making fun of them.

Sis JoyCH was talking about people saying they have the power to bless and to curse. However, the Bible clearly teaches us that what GOD has blessed cannot be cursed (Read the account of Balaam, who tried to curse GOD's people).

The Word of GOD must be handled accurately. That was the intent of this thread . . . to challenge saints not to go around misquoting Scripture.

Be Blessed  :D
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« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2005, 05:00:25 AM »
Hmm.. :? I'm still stuck...if hallelujah is the highest form of praise then whats the highest praise? or is this one and the same.....?

thanks for explaining this to me Bboy.....Your nickname fits you...
We can go from Glory to Goofy in a matter of seconds, by not heeding HIS voice. M.G. Blankenship

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« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2005, 08:43:52 AM »
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Hmm.. :? I'm still stuck...if hallelujah is the highest form of praise then whats the highest praise? or is this one and the same.....?

thanks for explaining this to me Bboy.....Your nickname fits you...


I found this in the dictionary.

hallelujah
praise ye Jehovah, frequently rendered "Praise ye the LORD," stands at the beginning of ten of the psalms (106, 111-113, 135, 146-150), hence called "hallelujah psalms." From its frequent occurrence it grew into a formula of praise. The Greek form of the word (alleluia) is found in Rev. 19:1, 3, 4, 6.


REVELATION 19
1 And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, ALLELUIA; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God:
3 And again they said, ALLELUIA And her smoke rose up for ever and ever.
4 And the four and twenty elders and the four beasts fell down and worshipped God that sat on the throne, saying, Amen; ALLELUIA.
6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, ALLELUIA: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.



I did a search in the Bible and Hallelujah isn't in there... As far as verse wise... However I did see it in the comentaries and footnotes.
Hope this helps.


Just my 20 cents... I have found as I grew in the Lord a lot of things had been revealed to me as false which I believed to be true.
Examples: Mis quotes of scripture; rules laid out by the church that was said to be scripture based; Preachers making a lot of noise but aint saying nothing.

I, like many others, assumed that it was the word because it sound good. It wasn't until I read and studied the word for myself that I realized the truth.
Its funny how we sing/play certain songs and don't even realize the words of that song, this little light of mind, I don't know about yall but there aint nothing little about my light. Now the bible does say let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven. So When I step in the room People are blinded. LMBO!!!!

My advice, for anyone who will receive it, Get yourself a bible dictionary, a concordance, a pen and paper and take it with you to church along with your bible and use it to understand the message. If you pastor is like my pastor, He/She will be more than happy to answer any questions or even explain more in depth the message.

Oh and to lilmanofgod... don't be so quick to defend or correct, I had to learn it the hard way. try to see where people are coming from before you answer/comment. I say this to my son and find I have to use the same advice which is Stop, think about what you are going to say before you say it, and make sure it is valid to the subject. (I'm not getting on you just a lil friendly advice :) )

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« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2005, 08:50:00 AM »
People say that we should hold hands in prayer because the Bible says "when two or three touch and agree, He is in the midst of us"
WRONG!!  There is no translation of the Bible that says "touch (physically) and agree."

This is what the BIBLE says:
Matthew 18:19-20
19 - ...That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.
20- For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them


The word says AS TOUCHING...not (physically) touching and agreeing. This verse is speaking of people here on earth praying in agreement and in accordance with the will of God about concerns. There is no where in the Bible that says we need to TOUCH one another. Holding hands is a good tradition, but that's all it is....a tradition.

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« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2005, 09:53:29 AM »
Oh and to lilmanofgod... don't be so quick to defend or correct, I had to learn it the hard way. try to see where people are coming from before you answer/comment. I say this to my son and find I have to use the same advice which is Stop, think about what you are going to say before you say it, and make sure it is valid to the subject. (I'm not getting on you just a lil friendly advice :) )

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Um ok.  I guess yall dont se the relevance. I wasnt trying to correct anyone, and wut i said wuz valid, u should check the validity. I gave scriptures that helped clear up somethings, kind of like u did with the hallelujuah thing.
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« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2005, 09:55:01 AM »
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Hmm.. :? I'm still stuck...if hallelujah is the highest form of praise then whats the highest praise? or is this one and the same.....?

thanks for explaining this to me Bboy.....Your nickname fits you...



These are both one and the same
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« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2005, 09:57:52 AM »
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Lilman what your sayin I can agree with...but i think this thread was posted to see/hear-some things that are said very often in chruch that arent bibically based and people seem to go with it...using scriptures out of context and flowin with it....and thats not how God intended for us to use his word....I dont want to seem abrasive...its kinda sems like you're blasting these people.  .when this is basically share what you've heard in church thats makes you raise one eyebrow


I am not blasting anyone, again I was just trying to help. Sorry if you gotted offended
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« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2005, 10:24:20 AM »
Well, I would like to thank everyone for the explanation that I needed.  I will check into the Greek & Hebrew version of the bible with my mother.  She graduated from Seminary school and she had to take BOTH Greek & Hebrew in order to graduate.

Now, as far as my teachings from bible study, Hallelujah is not in the bible, but in Isaiah Chapter 6, the angels were saying, "Holy, Holy, Holy".

So, would "holy" be considered the highest praise?

Are angels and humans equal or does one have authority over the other?

If humans have authority over angels, would 'holy' be considered a lessor praise to GOD IF it is true that 'holy' is the highest praise for the angels?

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« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2005, 10:34:28 AM »
I do know that Angels do desire but cannot posess the Holy Ghost "IN" them.  Holy would not be the highest praise.

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« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2005, 10:44:17 AM »
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Now, as far as my teachings from bible study, Hallelujah is not in the bible,  


Now this I didn't know.  :? (Am I the only one?? :( ) Looks like I'm going to have to look this one up for myself!  :D

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« Reply #19 on: June 20, 2005, 10:54:15 AM »
Man oh man!....lol  Is it safe for me to get in this conversation?


That is why I say all the time that we must get into and study the Word of God for ourselves and allow the Spirit of God (Holy Spirit) to lead us and guide us in His Word.  We must all allow the Word to Order our steps.  

First of all, we must not always take as law what others or the preacher say about the Word.  We've got to know God for ourselves and one of the most principle ways that we must know Him is to study His Word because God is His Word.  He is the Word.

Now, SOME of the things that people say or the phrases that people use are principles that are stated in the Bible.  They are not necessarily quoted verbatim in the Bible.  

For instance, I believe someone said that "If you make one step, God makes two."   That is an implication of what James 4:8 says, "Draw nigh to God and He will draw nigh to you." In other words if you give yourself unto God then He will meet you and help you.

Another one is about David saying about the 10,000 tongues.  Now that is not in the Bible.  To tell you the truth about it, thats too many tongues for one person to have.  God knew what He was doing when He gave us one tongue because we cannot tame the one we got......lol (James 3:8).


So, let us do what Paul told Timothy, "But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes." (2 Tim. 2:23)  Let us not get all bent out of shape because of this.  Let there be peace.

Peace and Blessings to All!


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