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Offline birdtrane

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« on: August 01, 2005, 05:29:59 PM »
Hello

I am new to this inspiring forum.

I play blues based jazz professionally.
I just bought the XK3 at Guitar Center.
I am hoping to bring it to gigs pumping left hand bass.

My lack of endless money and 4door sentra are a problem! No change in sight.

I am wondering about the Leslie. Motion Sound stuff- I've never heard it.
I would some day like TWO Leslie cabs. But never the real ones ( I own a 145- I have a hernia !! )
I don't play at rock volumes but not softly all the time either
2 leslie's are my dream. They might sound like heaven

The other thing is the clones

I like the roland VK8  but there seemed to be limitations with it.

Any opinions appreciated, on any of this.

In Christ
John

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« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2005, 07:12:51 PM »
You can get 2 Motion Sound Pro3T's. They''ll weight about 25-30 lbs together. You can then run the bass part into the house.

I have a Motion Sound Pro3. It has a lot of power built into it. I think the 3T's come with a built in mic for the upper rotor, so if you need to mic it, you can. If it doesn't you could buy a kit or just stick a mic in front of it.

I know someone that has a Hammond Leslie, similar to the Motion Sound one. It doesn't provide much power at all, and the person had to mic it to get the sound to project.

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« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2005, 10:36:46 PM »
Thank you.

The Motion Sound unit you recommend is with a rotating treble device ( I forget the name- horn or rotor? ) , NOT the low end, right?
 I assume the low end is simulated electronically, and the treble end is a mechanical transducer ( horn?) whirling around.
If all of this is true about your recommended model,

My next question has to do with

- which transducer ( fancy word, !! ) is more responsible for that pretty slow chorale effect,

 
the Treble horn?
or
the Bass speaker?

I prefer that Slow Chorale sound to the fast leslie sound ( speed ).
It can sound like heaven, if you get it right.

And of course, I am "crazy for" the CHANGE of speeds BETWEEN Fast and Slow, and Brake once in a while, as well.

My guess is the low part "moves me" more than the high part, but I am not sure.
If that turns out to be the case, wouldn't I want to have the BASS Part do the mechanical whirling around of air??

 This is getting more pricey by the minute! In that case, I would need the Pro 145 unit by Motion Sound, $1800 for one.

And my real dream is TWO of 'em!!

I am not even concerned with PA issues. I am for the moment trying to solve the sound issues that are ON the BANDSTAND, first, then off Stage sound latter.

Thanx again

Organ Grinder Swing

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« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2005, 12:15:31 AM »
Honestly, the XK3 comes with a really good on-board leslie simulator. it's better than the one on my CX3, especially since it has a tube in it.

If you REALLY want an external leslie sim, and you want 2 of them, and you want it to be light, get the Pro 3T. That's pretty much your only option, if you want all those things.

Now, as for the chorus effect, that's done by the organ itself, not the leslie sim. "Chorale" in the case of a leslie just means slow. Chorus/Vibrato are organ effects, not leslie effect.

You shouldn't spend $1800 for two 3Ts. I'd say about 1000, at the most.

Finally, you're right. The bass rotor is simulated, unless you buy the lower rotor, in which case, you can plug it into the 3T, and it'll switch both.
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