Journey on the Bass - 4hisglory

[ladybass]

Sure, I highly recommend Norm Stockton's stuff.  I posted a detailed list of his videos in an earlier post about videos.  I don't remember what the post subject was but I assume that you can do a search on this site.

ahhhhhhhh i can't get Norm's name outta my head.   :lol:    :lol:   DJ .. you should get paid for promoting him  :-)

[djgroovin]

LOL!  Sorry.  Guess I should get paid.  Those are the only bass video's that I own.  I'm pretty picky about not buying non-useful stuff.  I hear that the video's on videoprogression.com are pretty good too.

[tondee]

4hisglory,

This is a follow-up to what I was saying earlier about how I see the fretboard.  I agree with B3 about playing in a way to keep the fretting hand from much movement but at this moment I am placing more emphasis on seeing the music quickly and keeping up with everyone else quickly.  Looking at the notes this way allows me to keep everything in sequence.  So, regardless of where I place the 7 (a-string, b-string before the 1), this, again, is the pattern in my head:
 

:- - - - -+- - - - -+- - x - -+- - x - -+- - - - -+- - x - -+- - - - -+
:- - - - -+- - - - -+- - x - -+- - x - -+- - - - -+- - x - -+- - - - -+
:- - - - -+- - 4 - -+- - - - -+- - 5 - -+- - - - -+- - 6 - -+- - - - -+- - 7 - -+
:- - - - -+- - 1 - -+- - - - -+- - 2 - -+- - - - -+- - 3 - -+- - - - -+

Listen to the Larry Trotter's Next Dimension.  This song moves slowly thru the progression.  Other than the passing notes, this is the gist of that song placing the 1 on C sharp (2nd fret B-string).  Starting at "Go with me, to a place..."

1-2-3-----4-5-6-----6s----7-3-6

5-4-3-----2-3-4-5---1

Theoretically, I would place my 2nd finger on 2, 4th finger on 3.  Stretch for the 1, shift for the 7, or play a-string 7. (really, my hand is all over the place, even when I play 'stack-pattern')
 
For me, it moves in a circle.  Of course, I have to move my hand for the 7 but, at this moment of my learning, I don't mind.  It would be a whole lot easier to play this the stacked way which, eventually I would do.  But, right now, this odd 7 allows me to handle the 7-3-6 package fast.  Like I said, it's not the right way but it helps me.

Tony

[4hisglory]

T-D,
    I hear exactly what you are saying and understand completely.  IMO, the way you think about it allows someone to really just jump into the music to figure it out really fast.  Visualizing the fret board like that is really easy.
    But ZI have been taking a look at B3 way, and I can see if someone had a 5+ string bass it would be good to do also.  Thanks fellas (and fella-ette LB )

[tondee]

Yep, once I incorporate the songs into my head I'd allow the other stuff (B3) to gradually come in.  I'm on a 5-string, as well.

Tony

[4hisglory]

In order to help me visualize what B3 is saying, I had to write his tabs out in a what I came better internally see it.  Here is what I made for myself.



Key of Bb

||(1)-------------(5)---------(8 )------------(12)-------- 

||---+-7-+-1-+---+-2-+---+-3-+-4-+---+-5-+---+-6-+---+-7-+ 
||-4-+---+-5-+---+-6-+---+-7-+-1-+---+-2-+---+-3-+-4-+---+ 
||-1-+---+-2-+---+-3-+-4-+---+-5-+---+-6-+---+-7-+-1-+---+ 
||-5-+---+-6-+---+-7-+-1-+---+-2-+---+-3-+-4-+---+-5-+---+




1-4-5: 
        
----------      
----------      
---6--8---      
-6--------      
(Bb, Db, F) 


||(1)-------------(5)---------(8 )------------(12)--------
||---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ 
||---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ 
||---+---+---+---+---+-4-+---+-5-+---+---+---+---+---+---+ 
||---+---+---+---+---+-1-+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+





2-5-1: 
        
-----------       
-----------       
---8-------       
-8---6----      
(C, F, Bb) 

||(1)-------------(5)---------(8 )------------(12)--------
||---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
||---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
||---+---+---+---+---+-1-+---+-5-+---+---+---+---+---+---+
||---+---+---+---+---+---+---+-2-+---+---+---+---+---+---+





7-3-6: 
        
-----------       
------5----       
---5------       
-5--------      
(A, D, G) 

||(1)-------------(5)---------(8 )-----------(12)--------
||---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
||---+---+---+---+-6-+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
||---+---+---+---+-3-+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
||---+---+---+---+-7-+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+




3-6-2: 
        
-----------       
----5------       
-5--------       
------8---      
(D, G, C) 

||(1)-------------(5)---------(8 )-----------(12)--------
||---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
||---+---+---+---+-6-+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
||---+---+---+---+-3-+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
||---+---+---+---+---+---+---+-2-+---+---+---+---+---+---+




5-1-4: 
       
-----------     
-----------     
-8---6----     
---6-------     
(F, Bb, Db)


||(1)-------------(5)---------(8 )------------(12)--------
||---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ 
||---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ 
||---+---+---+---+---+-4-+---+-5-+---+---+---+---+---+---+ 
||---+---+---+---+---+-1-+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+

[ladybass]

LOL!  Sorry.  Guess I should get paid.  Those are the only bass video's that I own.  I'm pretty picky about not buying non-useful stuff.  I hear that the video's on videoprogression.com are pretty good too.

Don't be sorry brothaman ... it's good to pass on good info/resources.  I would hate to buy something, bring it home with excitement and find out it's no good at all.  That's really a waste of $$.  I find myself surfing to Norm's website often.  Next month I may either buy one of his products or sign-up for his groove class on music dojo.

[tondee]

Yep, that's the B3 stuff!!

Tony

[B3Wannabe]

Wow! That's a BIG gap in them thar strings! Yoozin have to squeeze 'em together!


 :wink:  :lol:

[4hisglory]

Last night, I listen to the blues channel for like an hour (if u have digital cable, u have tons of music channels on the tv).

Why the the blues??

1.  Trying to train my ears to listen to the song keys and figure it out
2.  The blues pattern is "fairly" simple.  The chords are typically, 1, 4, or 5.


I reallize that I have a looooooooooooong way to go, but I'm not giving up.

[ladybass]

[4hisglory]

Wow..LB....u want me to play a blues scale when I can parely play roots and 5th's.

[tondee]

Hey, aren't you a keyboard player?


Tony

[4hisglory]

Who me??  Keyboardplayer in a light sense of the word.  Just a beginner there also, been playing sense the beginning of the year.

[ladybass]

Just adding to your journey .. you'll refer to it later, i'm sure.  

[tondee]

Who me??  Keyboardplayer in a light sense of the word.  Just a beginner there also, been playing sense the beginning of the year.

I think you're pulling my leg, Clark Kent...
(Superman question mark)


Correction:  I was confusing you with ddw4e.  Sorry about that.

Tony

[4hisglory]

Well, it has been about 2 weeks and I am really enjoying the bass.   Right now, I am mainly listen to the blues in order to help develop my ear to what key the song it is.  Right now, I find the blues alot more easier to detect this than gospel, or even jazz.  Probably because the blues us bassed off of the 1, 4 or 5 chord.

[ladybass]

http://www.activebass.com/default.asp?src=l&l=15235&p=1

If the set tempo is too fast, slow it down.  As you get comfy, speed it up and practice more.  You're using all 4 fingers for this exercise.  In each measure, start with your index finger and end with your pinky.

[4hisglory]

Ok-doe-kay.  Got it.