I ned my ear to be stronger

[jt3n1]

Diverse, I see you mentioned something about prehearing in your post, and perhaps you have always been in fortunate situations where you ALWAYS know the song somebody is going to sing, and had a chance to prepare it in advance. Unfortunately for me, this is not usually the case. Somebody will start singing, and for that matter even on songs that I know, if they are in a key that I never have played the song in does that mean I should just sit there and look stupid? Well I personally prefer to be an intelligent musician, so a lot of my playing involves what you have nicely termed pre hearing. That is what ear training is!!! It is about developing your ear to know what is coming next, before the singer gets to it. For me, ear training has never been about making things up out of the blue. it has been about making things up based on the musical knowledge I have gained by playing in other situations. That is developing your ear. You never stop listening, you never stop practicing, and you never stop learning why the things work the way they do. Making your ear stronger is about total package musicianship. I think I can compare it to learning a new language, such as Swahili. If someone is talking Swahili to you, sure  you can learn by trial and error. I may take you years to do it, but it can be done. You can listen to what the other person is saying, and even copy it, but would you really know what you are saying? More importantly would you really be able to communicate what you wanted to say to them? It may help to learn the language first, and then trying talking, and listening to the language. Even when babies are learning to talk, they learn by association, and hearing, and they they learn how to form their own sentences and express their own thoughts more accurately, the older they get and the more they learn. Music is no different. Would we all really want to stay at the baby stage where we are copying off of what everybody else is doing only? Or would we rather get to the point where we can express to others our own thoughts, and then people are copying from us?

[diverse379]

I like your two posts on these rellated topics

Let me first start by saying I Never had the luxury of always knowing what would be sung abd there are times I do very well and others when I look stupid


and I am with you on getting to a point where we can express ourselves

but I feel that the so called pre hearing that you are doing when a person is singing is relly a component of the process of composition which you are doing when you are picking a person up that is what one of my college profesors said anyway

what I meant about pre hearing was only in reference to transcribing a record which was my initial concern when writing this post.  like when I hear lift ihim up by hezikiah and I can get the main overall progression but cant make out what tbiose extra sounds they are playing back in the back ground they sound like diminished somethings but My ear cant quite pick it out  thus my statement I want my ear to be stronger

I am not against theory or its growth and use in gospel or any other form

And I thank God  I can pick up better then I used to I could get better And I think That I could get better at it using either the theory or the copping more records by ear

either approach would yield lasting results

but to be honest at my stage I get more ideas from copying a master

I can do art later right now I am working on my craft

But as a closing remark to Jt3n1 you have a heart of gold I hope God Blesses No let me say I pray That God Blesses your endevour And I hope That I can get to read your work in the future.  you have a sale already 

[jt3n1]

Thank you very much.... but I will say I won't rush into selling it just yet, because I want to take the time to do it right!! Everyone deserves that and so does God!!

[Naz-Jaz]

I'm enjoying this site so much. The discussions are great. Anyway, diverse379, I think you should keep imitating the masters.  Someone earlier compared the the development of a musician's abilty to play with the development  of a baby's ability to speak. Let's think about that for a moment. When babies are born they don't know how to talk, ALL they do is listen. Later, longer for some than others, thren they begin to imitate the sounds they hear. Gradually, the associate words/sounds with certain things, events, people, etc. Eventually, they will use these words to make their own sentences and express their ideas. Even later than that they will undoubtedly attend school, where everything they've been imitating and practicing will be explained, which will further help them develop and understand speech.  I think you get the idea as it relates to music. Theory will probably play a HUGE role in helping you become the best musician you can be, but which comes first, the theory or eartraining? The answer is eartraining. So, keep on imitating and transcribing.

[diverse379]

Thank you for that. 

[friedaddy]

This site has some good ear training excercises.

http://www.musictheory.net/

Hey bruh, thanks for this sight!!!!! This is really going to help me out tremendously!!!!!! Check out  http://www.musicnotes.com . They have software that break down the notes on the staff. It also plays the chords for you. The only thing is you have to buy the sheet music. This sight is cool because you can download some of the sheet music for the price of a value meal.

[diverse379]

I agree thie site is cool

I havent gotten a lot right yet but what i do get right is from me singing sol fege sylables

Thanks for that site