Topic: musician hardships... (Read 5404 times)

NewLevel · « **on:** February 24, 2006, 10:09:21 AM »

Hey everybody...wanted to ask for advice in a particular area of my life right now. I've been noticing here recently in my small, local church that my m.o.m. doesn't really want to sing when I'm playing the keys. I'm 20 and have been playing the keys for about 4 years now...I really didn't grow up in church so I didn't get a good foundation on those 'old time way' songs she sings...but over 5 years of being a Christian they have grew on me and now I'm able to play them...but I've been noticing over the years in our services that when our former keys player comes to visit and my m.o.m. sings when he sings and she sings when he plays the keys...but whenever he don't visit or her brother (the guitar player) is not there, she won't sing, she tells me to sing and we all know we can't do everything by ourselves, we have to work together...she keeps telling me that one day our former keys player will return...it really discourages me because I try my very best....I consider myself to be a well-rounded musician, I'm able to hold down a service, I play by ear, know some theory... but it seems the harder I try the less folk appreciate what I do. People tell our former keys man that he has a great anointing on his life and I never hear that at all!...I don't know maybe it's just the way I feel, I'm constantly beating myself up over it 'cause I know deep down that God gave me the talent and the anointing but sometimes I question whether or not I'm really supposed to be doing this...I don't want to be jealous of anyone and our former keys man is one of my best friends. I just don't understand people sometimes...I know my friend may be a better @ the keys and a better singer than me...but don't you think my m.o.m. should give me a chance? Blessings!

Darrynn · « **Reply #1 on:** February 24, 2006, 06:27:05 PM »

NewLevel, there are some people that you just have to turn over to God. Your MOM sounds like one of those people. If you have the gift of playing the keys, no matter how long you've been playing, you don't need validation from someone else. I must admit that I too, have done the same thing to my drummer. When my former drummer comes to visit, I ask her to play. My current, gets mad and stomps out of the church- In the end, it's not that your not appreciated, its that after singing or playing with one person for so long then that changes, it can be hard to comform or adapt to the changes.

caisza · « **Reply #2 on:** February 26, 2006, 09:42:48 AM »

Been there, done that.

I had this same problem with one of the church members. Let's call her Sister M. Everything was either her way or no way. I left this congregation for 2 years and went somewhere else. While I was at this church, Sis. M. took keyboard lessons to try and outdo me. No matter what I did, she always had to try and outdo me. Well I came back to this church and she was now the musician. When I came back, she did not want me to play at all but I stayed humbled. A lot of songs that she did not know how to play, she would rather sit at the keyboard and let the singers or choir sing accapello because she didn't want me to play. The pastor finally told me that my gift would make room for me. I didn't know what he was talking about. Since I have been back at this church, she have done a lot of bad things to me concerning music but that was ok. I still stayed humble. I can play the drums, keyboard, trumpet, and piano. I can also direct a choir and teach the songs. The pastor didn't want to make me the MOM because he didn't want her to get mad. That was ok also. He preferred his son to be the MOM who is married to Sis. M. His son only plays the drum and that's it. He don't sing, direct a choir or anything else musically. That was ok also. The pastor never named his son MOM. Anyway, because of my gift making room for me, I am now the MOM of the district choir.

Sometimes when things seem not to be working in our favor, we still have to hold on to God's Word. All things work together for the good of them who love the Lord and who is called according to His (not man's) purpose. Believe it or not but the pastor suggested that I quit the district choir. After the President of the District Choir talked to him and told him that it was not fair that it shows that I have the gift of music to try and make me sit outbecause he prefer his daughter in law to be over everything. Again, things worked out in my favor. The devil is a liar and the father of it. The devil didn't want us working together because the devil knew that God would get some glory. It's all about keeping your mind stayed on Jesus and holding on to His Word. Everything is going to work itself out sooner or later. God is a good God. What God have for you it is for you and man can't take it away.

Just stay fasted and prayed up. God will make a way. I love the Lord and He heard my cries.

Hope everything that I said helps.

caisza

jlewis · « **Reply #3 on:** February 27, 2006, 06:53:39 PM »

Man,

I find it interesting the amount of mess that we church folks can get involved in sometimes. I am going to pray for all of you, and I ask that everyone stay humble and listen for the Spirit to speak.

all churches have drama, that is just something that I have grown to learn. My church has drama as well. One thing that I will say about my church, we will get angry and fuss and fight over an issue, but once everyone has said their piece, we try real hard to make things work out for the best. I think people involved in ministry with you should all be on one accord. And at my church we all truly want to do the best we can for God, so after the fussing is done, we do our best to make things right.

As long as the focus is on the right goal, the will of God, then things should work out, it may not always be smooth, but they should always work out for the glory of the Lord.

as far as musician's being jealous, sometimes people don't appreciate how much time it takes to really master an instrument. And untill they try, they won't appreciate it (I am a living witness). So just stay humble and let God do the exalting.

jlewis

BBoy · « **Reply #4 on:** April 06, 2006, 09:52:43 AM »

Church people are human. It took me a long time to get that, because we think that they should be more than that.

This doesn't excuse behavior like the behavior you are telling me about, but it would help to understand that.

Also, it may be that there is something going on behind the scenes that has nothing to do with you. Maybe people want the musician to come back and want to put pressure on the congregation to make him come back, and you filling in is kinda stealing their thunder. I hope that nothing like that is going on, but sometimes things like that happen.

Anyway, play unto GOD for as long as GOD would have you there. Your promotion and reward will come from GOD. Turn the rest over to HIM, and have peace.

Be Blessed, everyone!

mr_c32005 · « **Reply #5 on:** April 08, 2006, 12:19:05 PM »

This is such a touchy topic for some people.. but isn't it funny how the devil doesn't care who he uses as long as what he wants to get done, gets don!!! You have to realize that it doesn't matter on the person, as long as God is pleased with you.. the bible speaks in Psalms 34 11-19 "11 Come, ye children, hearken unto me: I will teach you the fear of the LORD. 12 What man is he that desireth life, and loveth many days, that he may see good? 13 Keep thy tongue from evil, and thy lips from speaking guile. 14 Depart from evil, and do good; seek peace, and pursue it. 15 The eyes of the LORD are upon the righteous, and his ears are open unto their cry. 16 The face of the LORD is against them that do evil, to cut off the remembrance of them from the earth. 17 The righteous cry, and the LORD heareth, and delivereth them out of all their troubles. 18 The LORD is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart; and saveth such as be of a contrite spirit. 19 Many are the afflictions of the righteous: but the LORD delivereth him out of them all.

So don't worrie about it b/c your gift will make room for you...

bishopcole · « **Reply #6 on:** April 08, 2006, 01:32:45 PM »

Quote from: jlewis on February 27, 2006, 06:53:39 PM

Man,

I find it interesting the amount of mess that we church folks can get involved in sometimes. I am going to pray for all of you, and I ask that everyone stay humble and listen for the Spirit to speak.

all churches have drama, that is just something that I have grown to learn. My church has drama as well. One thing that I will say about my church, we will get angry and fuss and fight over an issue, but once everyone has said their piece, we try real hard to make things work out for the best. I think people involved in ministry with you should all be on one accord. And at my church we all truly want to do the best we can for God, so after the fussing is done, we do our best to make things right.

As long as the focus is on the right goal, the will of God, then things should work out, it may not always be smooth, but they should always work out for the glory of the Lord.

as far as musician's being jealous, sometimes people don't appreciate how much time it takes to really master an instrument. And untill they try, they won't appreciate it (I am a living witness). So just stay humble and let God do the exalting.

jlewis

Yes, yes yes!! now this is it!!! Bishop Cole

Bullitt · « **Reply #7 on:** May 26, 2006, 08:04:15 AM »

I think we've all had our fair shair of "church folk drama". I won't get into my personal story but I've been where you are and I'm still praying my way through it.

Keep your head up and never let the enemy bring doubt into your mind over the gifts that God has placed in you. Like the songwriter said, "After you've done all you can, you just stand...."

Continue to pray over the situation and God will bless you in ways that you never imagined possible.

God Bless,
-J

reginald79 · « **Reply #8 on:** June 16, 2006, 09:53:27 AM »

I UNDERSTAND YOU PAIN AND TROUBLES. I KNOW HOW IT FEELS TO GIVE YOUR ALL AND NO ONE SAY "GOOD JOB OR WE APPRECAITE YOU" I HAVE BEEN PLAYING FOR 14 YEARS AND AM ONLY 22YRS OLD. I HAVE BEEN THROUGH TRAILS AND HARDSHIP WITH CHURCH PEOPLE AND M.O.M.. BUT YOU WE TO REALIZE THAT THROUGH YOUR PAIN AND HARDSHIP GOD WILL GET THE GLORY. ALWAYS REMEMBER YOU DON'T NEED ANOTHER MAN TO TELL YOU THAT YOU ARE ANIONTED, GOD GAVE YOU THAT GIFT AND IF HE GAVE IT TO GO YOU ARE ANIONTED AND SPECIAL. YOU JUST HANG IN THERE BECAUSE WHEN IT'S TIME GOD WILL MOVE YOU AND PLACE YOU SOMEWHERE WHERE THE PEOPLE WILL LOVE YOU AND YOU MAY EVEN BE THE M.O.M, THERE. YOU NEED TO TALK TO YOUR M.O.M AND TELL THIS PERSON HOW YOU FEEL AND THEN CONTINUE TO PRAY AND SEEK GOD BECAUSE HE ALREADY KNOWS WHAT YOU ARE GOING THROUGH. HANG IN THERE BECUASE THIS TOO SHALL PASS

Keys410 · « **Reply #9 on:** July 10, 2006, 12:09:26 PM »

Man I have been there and back again. Honestly, thats how you know you are called to do what you do cause the devil dont mess with junk. I wont get into details with my situation but lets say I still have to bite my tounge and call on the lord but he is working it out. Just stay encouraged brother and continue to stay strong. Dont let those things move you stand firm.

ndel · « **Reply #10 on:** August 27, 2006, 12:02:55 PM »

There's some good advice on this page

PianoWizard · « **Reply #11 on:** August 27, 2006, 01:00:50 PM »

Quote from: ndel on August 27, 2006, 12:02:55 PM

There's some good advice on this page

I'll have to second that......

PianoWiz...

JLBMusic · « **Reply #12 on:** September 12, 2006, 10:36:31 PM »

Listen here, You are dealing with people whose praise and their worship to God is conditional. It is based on things like who's playing, who's singing, what song, who's directing, who's preaching, where they are at, what they had for breakfast, etc... Stay away as best as possible from these poeple. They don't know and are unable to give True praise and True worship. I have been you suitation before. It is not something good. Causes you too doubt what you do. GET IN YOUR OWN WORLD IN DO WHAT YOU DO BEST!!!! FORGET ABOUT EVERYONE ELSE.

bishopcole · « **Reply #13 on:** September 12, 2006, 11:32:23 PM »

Quote from: JLBMusic on September 12, 2006, 10:36:31 PM

Listen here, You are dealing with people whose praise and their worship to God is conditional. It is based on things like who's playing, who's singing, what song, who's directing, who's preaching, where they are at, what they had for breakfast, etc... Stay away as best as possible from these poeple. They don't know and are unable to give True praise and True worship. I have been you suitation before. It is not something good. Causes you too doubt what you do. GET IN YOUR OWN WORLD IN DO WHAT YOU DO BEST!!!! FORGET ABOUT EVERYONE ELSE.

Welcome to LGM!!! Bishop Cole

Furious Styles · « **Reply #14 on:** September 30, 2006, 04:15:03 PM »

Sometimes you have to ask God if it is time to move. Then there are times that when situations are unhealthy its best for you to move on in love. Personally I believe you should be in a place where the environment allows you to use your gift. True story I moved to Nashville 8 years ago and a young dude by the name of Stanley Randolph replaced me on drums. I came home for our church's first Sunday in a new building. The MOM wanted me to play certain songs but I didn't feel comfortable because I felt that Stanley was better suited for the songs. Stanley and I had no beef because we were both mature in the Lord and confident in our individual gift. I'm not ashamed to say that Stanley is a better drummer but not at the expense of my gift. Stanley is doing well after all these years and has his own band called New Gensis. Long story short you need to be in an environment where you are appreciated and given expectations on when you will play and when you will not. If you leave your current situation it may not change or you may find that fellowship where the musicians don't care about who's got the phatest chords or licks. They only care about worship and treating everyone on staff with respect. Stanley is one of the baddest drums(and I do mean good) I've ever met. I was happy to play percussion or play when he switched to Piano. God resist the proud and exalts the humble.

As a new christian it is a shock when you see people in their humanity but you must remember to look at the God that works in them as well. Never covet or compare your gift to someone elses. Nobody can play like you!!! God didn't make you to play like another musician. I say find another place that needs a young, committed, and saved musician. P;enty of fellowships are in need even as we discuss this situation. Peace brother.

Lady E · « **Reply #15 on:** September 30, 2006, 05:24:40 PM »

Be encouraged and just know that your LGM family cares about what you're going through!

Also know that I'm praying for you because Prayer Changes Things!

Those mountains HAVE TO move when we Pray (Yes indeed)!!!

Lady E

PianoWizard · « **Reply #16 on:** October 01, 2006, 10:58:13 AM »

Welcome to the LGM family "JLBMusic"......Be Blessed.

PianoWiz...

ijnor · « **Reply #17 on:** October 02, 2006, 06:50:27 PM »

I know all too well where you are coming from. I won't discuss my experience, but in those times just remain humble, and continue

to study(practice) to show thyself approved, a workman(musician) that needeth not be ashamed rightly dividing (playing) the word

(gospel) truth. David is a prime example of a humble musician. David was forced by his father to tend the sheep. Tending sheep

was a low job, while his brothers did all the "major" tasks, because they were built head to toe. Even though David took the low

road he continued to worship on the backside of the mountain (behind the scene). The backside of your mountain seems to be the

fact that you're not recognized, but continue to worship and give God your best when you do play. Keep purchasing resources that

will enhance your skills, then when you do come from behind your mountain you can conquer your giant, and be a talented,

anointed, and sought after musician even as David was. Philipians 1:6 Being confident in this very thing, He which has begun a good

work in you shall will carry it on to completion until the day of Jesus Christ.

PianoWizard · « **Reply #18 on:** October 05, 2006, 01:36:17 PM »

Welcome to the LGM family "ijnor"......Be Blessed.

PianoWiz...

C-note jr. · « **Reply #19 on:** October 09, 2007, 03:48:23 PM »

Hey man just continue to play for God don't pay attention to what people think. Just stay Humble and the Lord will Bless you Gratelly on the Keys and whoever was down talking on you will have to eat their words, and will also need you to play for them one day Stay Blessed.

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caisza

Keys410