Triton vs Roland vs yamaha

[diverse379]

I own the riton Extreme and the 1st generation phantom with complete piano and studion expansion cards

I own a yamaha p80

I dont even play my triton in fact i want to throw it in the garbage sometimes the pianos sound like toy pianos

my yamaha spoiled me the piano is rich and realistic I want to get the yamaha s90 because it sounds so ggod

my roland is cool the bass and horns are pretty good

my question is why do people trip on the triton when the sounds are so cheap soundng

roland and yamaha make much better sounds of couse the production is difficult. and not user friendly as the triton but korg is not even in the same league sound wise

am i missing something tell me please because i am seriously ready to sell this thing the triton not my roland

[Nerakwms]

What kind of AMP/Speaker you are using to play your keyboard through.......

[diverse379]

I am ashaamed to say I am using MA-8 s
by roland they are small 8 watt powered monitors ???

Do you think that is why my korg sounds so crappy

if so why does my yamaha sound good and my roland sounds at least decent
my yamaha p80 sounds like a real piano through my ma8s

but I will say there may be sonmething to the fact that i am not using a real good sound source

honestly though i am going through the sounds on this triton and i am really disappointed the guitars sound like keybouards

maybe the factory presets are substandard and i need to look into after market triton sounds

[timroy]

Triton sucks but the Korg O1-W...That's what's up. I own a Triton LE (the little one.) I use it for lead synths and loop samples. The organs and bass are okay but you're right the piano samples are horrible. The O1-W is a lot more realistic and fuller. But hands down top end Yahama keyboards have the piano sample science mastered. That's Lush! Roland...em..no words for..Take care and God bless, Tim

[dodante]

You r very right. Korg sucks when it comes to samples. I really detest the piano samples. Regarding yamaha, I think i prefer the stage piano series to the studio keyboards cause I own a yamaha motif and I can't get a proper piano sound from it.

[sjonathan02]

Are the Yamaha keyboards weighted keys? I'm looking to upgrade; but I really want the feel  of weighted keys. And, if I were to get a Yamaha, would I need to purchase an amp. I can't really afford that right now.

[diverse379]

The p80n the S80 the s08 and the s90es all have weighted keys The p80 and the p90 have less sounds but they are actually a little better at reproducing that piano sound and piano feel especially when you change the touch sensitivity to hard i had a classical/jazz piano teacher named Victor Simonson and he insisted i only practice scales on a acoustic piano and he said no electric piano could substitute when he tried my p80 with that setting he didnt say anything negative and he never had anything but negative things to say about me using this board but once he played it he had nothing to say

and Victor was a real purist in terms of classical

The difference between the p80 and s80 touch feel is that the s series use the same touch accross the board where as the p80 has a little stiffer action on the lower keys then on the higher ones it is far more realistic in feel

sound they all use great samples but again the p series is dediecated only to pianos well a few strings and organ patches too

but the sound is a little better

to be honest the best pound for pound keyboard is the s90 for the money you cannot beat it

the pianos are so hot I sound like bach and mozart on them and I aint no bach and mozart try them you will love them

try the rd700 sound on the s90 you will fall in love

so what can I do about the pianos on my korg are there any other sounds and

what was my brother in christ saying about my roland

lol

let me know bro every opinion counts

[sjonathan02]

The p80n the S80 the s08 and the s90es all have weighted keys The p80 and the p90 have less sounds but they are actually a little better at reproducing that piano sound and piano feel especially when you change the touch sensitivity to hard i had a classical/jazz piano teacher named Victor Simonson and he insisted i only practice scales on a acoustic piano and he said no electric piano could substitute when he tried my p80 with that setting he didnt say anything negative and he never had anything but negative things to say about me using this board but once he played it he had nothing to say

and Victor was a real purist in terms of classical

The difference between the p80 and s80 touch feel is that the s series use the same touch accross the board where as the p80 has a little stiffer action on the lower keys then on the higher ones it is far more realistic in feel

sound they all use great samples but again the p series is dediecated only to pianos well a few strings and organ patches too

but the sound is a little better

to be honest the best pound for pound keyboard is the s90 for the money you cannot beat it

the pianos are so hot I sound like bach and mozart on them and I aint no bach and mozart try them you will love them

try the rd700 sound on the s90 you will fall in love

so what can I do about the pianos on my korg are there any other sounds and

what was my brother in christ saying about my roland

lol

let me know bro every opinion counts

Thanks for the info, bro.

[elio]

Amen Amen Amen. And I thought I was the only one!

Let me tell you, I own a Yamaha S90 and a Triton Rack and the difference in the quality of the pianos/EPs is incredible. I am seriously thinking of selling the Triton, as it does not suit me at all.

For instance, the Triton has one piano sample, whereas the S90 has twenty!

In a last-ditch effort to save my Triton from the Big Studio In The Sky I've bought the piano/EP expansion card, with more samples. Will let you know how that turns out.

Sjonathan02,
Go with Yamaha's, you won't regret it.

[diverse379]

please do let me know how the piano expansion works out I am very interested

The only reason I would keep this triton is if The piano expansion did something amazing Now that i had the chance to really listen my roland with the piano expansion is only a shade better then the triton pianos the yamaha sounds very authentic

[sjonathan02]

Amen Amen Amen. And I thought I was the only one!

Let me tell you, I own a Yamaha S90 and a Triton Rack and the difference in the quality of the pianos/EPs is incredible. I am seriously thinking of selling the Triton, as it does not suit me at all.

For instance, the Triton has one piano sample, whereas the S90 has twenty!

In a last-ditch effort to save my Triton from the Big Studio In The Sky I've bought the piano/EP expansion card, with more samples. Will let you know how that turns out.

Sjonathan02,
Go with Yamaha's, you won't regret it.

Thanks for your input and info. I'll check it out.

[sjonathan02]

Alright, Gentlemen, after having looked at a few of these keyboards. I have a question. Will I be able to create midis and things of that nature with these Yamahas (such as the S90 or the P80? Forgive my ignorance, I just want to be sure that the next keyboard that I buy will be able to do more as I begin to really grow into my piano playing skills.


thanks for the feedback.

[elio]

Will I be able to create midis and things of that nature with these Yamahas (such as the S90 or the P80?

Short answer: no.
Long answer: no, but what you can do is hook up your S90 (it has a USB port) to a PC and use the Yamaha bundled sequencer software (SQ01) to record midi. As for recording actual sound, I connected the out port of the S90 to the soundcard of my PC and use http://audacity.sourceforge.net for recording. The S90 can play midi files directly, but not record them.

If you want to create midi, look at the Motif series (think of it as a S90 plus a sequencer).

I don't know about the P series.

HTH

[sjonathan02]

Will I be able to create midis and things of that nature with these Yamahas (such as the S90 or the P80?

Short answer: no.
Long answer: no, but what you can do is hook up your S90 (it has a USB port) to a PC and use the Yamaha bundled sequencer software (SQ01) to record midi. As for recording actual sound, I connected the out port of the S90 to the soundcard of my PC and use http://audacity.sourceforge.net for recording. The S90 can play midi files directly, but not record them.

If you want to create midi, look at the Motif series (think of it as a S90 plus a sequencer).

I don't know about the P series.

HTH

Ok, well that's not good. I'm looking for a keyboard with weighted keys, the ability to record midis and put them on the Internet, like others here have done. All of this under $1500; $2000 at the most.

Any ideas?

[bmoreprodigy]

i have a roland XP 80 and i love it but im ready to move up to a roland X8
i guess you can say i love ROLANDS

[CATRON]

REALLY I FEEL WERE ALL OF YOU ARE COMING FROM. I THINK THAT THE TRITON SERIES KEYBOARD ARE REALLY MAINLY USED FOR AUXILARY KEYBOARDS. LIKE FOR SYNTHS, BASSES, BRASS STRINGS ECT. THE KORG SERIES PIANO'S,ELETRIC PIANO'S,RHODES,WURLITZERS,ORGANS,ECT ARE HORRIBLE. AND THE CRAZYTHING ABOUT IT IS THAT THE MOTIF ES'S PIANOS, E. PIANOS, RHODESS, WURLITZERS, ORGANS,ECT ARE EXCELLENT. BUT THERE AUX SOUNDS LIKE SYNTHS,BASS ECT AREN'T THAT GOOD TO ME. I THINK THE BEST THING TO DO IS TO HAVE A MIDI CONTROLLER. AND BUY A TRITON RACK SERIES AND A MOTIF ES RACK SERIES AND MIDI THE BOTH OF THEM TO THE MIDI CONTROLLER AND THIS WAY YOU WILL HAVE THE BEST OF BOTH SOUNDS GOING INTO I KEYBOARD.




HOLLA

[ferrente]

I think Yamaha Rules.

[diverse379]

Wow a lot of comments on this subject but it isso important because as church musicians we have different needs.

Some of us need lead sounds horns and basses others need organs some need strings some need to do recording and live playing
Like for example from players standpoint one who requires a realistic piano sound it is evident that Yamaha is the way to go.
And that is all I really need a straight piano with 88 keys weighted so i can develop a good touch and feel

But for like the brother sais auxilliary sounds such as leads strings synths he likes korg and I will admit korg has some nasty sounding film score stuff and dance type sounds for super contemporary so I shouldnt their sounds are cheap but most keyboardist from the old school mearsure board by its piano patches

Question for all you Roland heads I have the first generation Phantom I have the concert piano srx expansion but it doesent sound all that great is there a difference in the sound engine of the new phantom with the sampler?

Elio did you check out your triton piano expansion yet is it any Good?

 

[elio]

Ok, well that's not good. I'm looking for a keyboard with weighted keys, the ability to record midis and put them on the Internet, like others here have done. All of this under $1500; $2000 at the most.
Any ideas?

Lemme have a go. I'll stick with Yamahas.
A new Motif ES8 is $2900
A used Motif 8 is $2000
Either one will have weighted keys, a sequencer, all that you've described above.

However, if you think about it, you'll still have to go through a PC to connect to the internet. So, if you have a PC that's permanently set up next to your keyboard, you can still buy a keyboard without sequencer (S90ES: $2000) and use your PC to record midi/sound. If that's acceptable for you, a new S90ES is $2000. Otherwise, buy a used Motif.

Does that help?

[elio]

Elio did you check out your triton piano expansion yet is it any Good?
 

Yes, I used it during yesterday's service. The Triton got a stay of execution with that  . IMHO, the pianos are a marked improvements from the Triton built-ins, the EPs still suffer from the same lack of definition than the original ones. My bass player keeps telling me to "stop playing underwater", if you know what I mean.
It might be that with some work on the sounds I'll get something usable for the EPs but, frankly, I have better things to do with my time. 

So, my judgment remains: even with the expansion the Triton is not very suitable for church playing. Shame I did not really find out until after buying it  .

Does this help?