Triton vs Roland vs yamaha

[GeneralMusic]

To Sjonathan:

Praise the Lord,

Have you considered the Yamaha MO 8?  It retails for 1599.00 I got one Saturday night while they were having 20% off making the pirce 1280.00 from Samash Music Stores.  Unforunately, there is not a lot of content, reviews available of this board.  I must say I was impressed I didnt get home until around 12am so I didnt have much time to get to know it.  Took it to church Sunday morning and had a ball.  Your questions?  Is it in your price range? Yes!  Can it connect to computer?  Yes, through midi or its built in USB connectors it actually has two, have to find out what the other one is for, Here is the big one that is not even talked about READY?  IT USES THE SAME SOUND ENGINE AS THE YAMAHA ES 8.   I do know it doesnt have all the features of the Motif supposedly, but I got a seriously think Manual all in English, it has built in Sequencer, over 1800 sounds, appegeatior, realtime knobs well it looks just like the Motif,  I never had a Motif so I dont know what its missing I still have one bank of sounds that I have not went through the Waveform Bank which I havent figured out how to get to yet?  Help Motif users!!!  Anyway for the money this Keyboard is worth it for the sounds alone.  I am going to see if I can download any sounds into it, at the store and over the phone they told me it has no built in sequencer and a few other things that were not true so it might be able to recieve that Triple Strike Piano thats on the Yamaha S90 I stepped out of Faith to get this keyboard.   So far it has exceeded my expectations and thats only after less than 24 hours. 

[sjonathan02]

To Sjonathan:

Praise the Lord,

Have you considered the Yamaha MO 8?  It retails for 1599.00 I got one Saturday night while they were having 20% off making the pirce 1280.00 from Samash Music Stores.  Unforunately, there is not a lot of content, reviews available of this board.  I must say I was impressed I didnt get home until around 12am so I didnt have much time to get to know it.  Took it to church Sunday morning and had a ball.  Your questions?  Is it in your price range? Yes!  Can it connect to computer?  Yes, through midi or its built in USB connectors it actually has two, have to find out what the other one is for, Here is the big one that is not even talked about READY?  IT USES THE SAME SOUND ENGINE AS THE YAMAHA ES 8.   I do know it doesnt have all the features of the Motif supposedly, but I got a seriously think Manual all in English, it has built in Sequencer, over 1800 sounds, appegeatior, realtime knobs well it looks just like the Motif,  I never had a Motif so I dont know what its missing I still have one bank of sounds that I have not went through the Waveform Bank which I havent figured out how to get to yet?  Help Motif users!!!  Anyway for the money this Keyboard is worth it for the sounds alone.  I am going to see if I can download any sounds into it, at the store and over the phone they told me it has no built in sequencer and a few other things that were not true so it might be able to recieve that Triple Strike Piano thats on the Yamaha S90 I stepped out of Faith to get this keyboard.   So far it has exceeded my expectations and thats only after less than 24 hours. 

Excellent advice. Thank you so much.

[diverse379]

Thanks Elio on the update on the piano expansion for the Triton My Roland has some good electric pianos with the studio srx expansion I have a lot of usatle sounds maybe I will buy the expansion and forget the s90 purchase i could stand to keep my 1,200 na mean

I am torn between buying the s90 just to have it to practice on and play the occasional gig, or just buying a yamaha brain and midi to my  p80 that will caost almost the same as buying the s90 and i will have to lug around two pieces of equiptment instead of one,

One thing about the Triton nobody has said it is the easiest major workstation around Roland is complicaed and Yamaha is real complicated
yo do sequencing on and tracking the roland has no internal memory to remember your tracks so you always have to load on a disc that is a drag

I had the sy85 and that was easy to use I dont know what thery were thinking of when they made the motiff but it is very hard to learn how to use the sequencer It took me about an hour to figure our how to lay a drum track with a bass line

and the roland has some weird idea that people like to use prearranged drum tracks so laying a druim track requires you to sit down with the manual and really knock your head to figure out how to create and original drum track



 so the the roland  phantom is not so easy to use either but easier then the yamaha motif

the triton is a piece of cake so you can get right to the music

and it does have some usable sounds just not the pianos 

[PNJai]

Right now I have Roland RS-70...eventually I'd like to get the Fantom s-88......I never really was big on Tritons...they are so overused....

[Hesh]

I currently own the Roland Fantom X-8, and play the Korg Triton Studio (88 Keys) at church.  I became interested in the Fantom last summer when I was producing a CD for a christian artist. The studio I was in had one and the engineer recommended I use it. I'm glad he gave me the tip. I used it all over the album, and it really made the difference, especially with various keyboard pads. The sequencer is awesome. I'm currently working on a new studio project, and it has proven to be tremendously efficient and professional sounding.

For "synth" sounds, strings, brass, and ethereal pads, the Fantom kicks. Although the piano patches have decent clarity (in all octaves) I miss the "bite" that the Yamaha Motif offers. You just can't get a better piano sound, than a Yamaha. It has that "rumble" on the lower octaves that cut through in a live performance.

For me, it's tough to say that one keyboard is better than the other. The ultimate setup would be to have all three!

[ES7Mike]

At my old church, we had a fantom (the original). the fantom has some good synth sounds and some ok rhodes sounds, but when you want true sound at an affordable price, go try out a yamaha S90, or motif or motif es. I haven't tryed the Mo series yet so I dont know what to expect.

[elio]

To GeneralMusic:
I believe the Mo8 does not have weighted keys, am I right?

To Diverse:
Given that you have a P80 already, have you considered buying a good rack synth (Motif rack or similar) and a cheap 88-note controller (Fatar, M-Audio)? So that at home you play the (weighted, nice) P80 and on the road the (lightweight) controller. That should be well within your budget...

Peace

[diverse379]

TO Elio YOu know what I hadnt conisedred that recently I was going to do that years ago befor I bought the phantom I was going to By three Roland 2020 and hook it to an 88 note controller

that is a god idea

but The guys ag sam ash sais the s90 has poianos that the motif does not like the rd700 or triple strike I am not sure whic ones exactly but he said tha the s90 has unique performance sounds specifically for that unit but I better go check it out myself

Thanks Elo

[T_Keys]

I have a MO8 and a Motif ES rack- Its a pretty good setup but I am looking at a Fantom Rack.
The MO8 keyboard is a beast- I see no reason 4 anyone to ever buy the Motif ES 8 now.
Yamaha's brass, strings, etc. are not that great, but I have never bought the Yamaha expansion cards, which I heard are very nice.
Tritons in general are overrated- my friend has an Extreme at his house and even he says its horrible.

[GeneralMusic]

Glory to God!!

T Keys I need to talk to you brother about the MO8 I cant get to that Waveform Bank thats in the Data List Book, help me out please?  717 291-9166 or 717 606 9043 is my cell I am on Sprint.   The MO 8 does have Weighted Keys they have a nice feel to them.  I havent gotten past the Pianos and EPs and Organs to mess with the Strings or Brass Yet which I do use especially the brass.  I hope they alright on here.  This Keyboard is very underated matter of fact no one even rates it they must look down on it but I tell you this This is the Sleeping Giant go and see for yourself at the music store.  And The Triton TR Series is a sleeper, It sounds way better than the Triton Studio.  They upgraded the ram the sounds and its a lot cheaper, dont sleep on this one either. 

God Bless You,


Brother Mark Wilson

[GeneralMusic]

Any other MO 8 users here?

[Wash]

I agree with Hesh.  I do a lot of production of projects and having all three seems to be complete on  giving  the various phat sounds I need or desire.

The triton is very user friendly as stated, however the piano patches are just not
there.  Suggestion:  Get piano expansion board - Also the Moss board.  This really enhances.  I also interface via midi the triton with a yamaha rack.  You can get some outstanding sounds mixing the two keyboards.  But by far on a stand alone the Yamaha Motif piano sounds are "nice".  I also have a roland combo VR-760.
The organ sounds are sweet. the synth exceptional - and the various piano sounds like fender rhodes etc are really exceptional.  I mix and tweak all the time but I do get exactly what I am looking for.  Another factor in obtaining good sound is the sound system you are playing through.  Each of the above I have added expansion boards.  I sould suggest before just purchasing a keyboard because if doesn't sound quite right to do the research on how to tweak them.   I have heard triton players with some phat sounds (either exp boards or tweaking).  Check on the web for a users group of whatever boards you have for info on how to do this.  I love all three (Triton, Roland and Yamaha). I make them work for me not me work for them.  For the advanced:  Sometimes getting the correct phat sounds goes into like programming. Hope this helps.    If you are looking for something right out of the box with excellent piano (hands down Motif yamaha or Roland.    God Bless.

[timroy]

Buy a Triton Le for $1000! Hit me back for details, Troy

[diverse379]

Hey wash You took me back

My first keyboard was a Bit one by chroma polaris it was an anolog board with digital programming I used to program all the time assigning sine waves adjustin the Lfo

and it was fun in fact you never sat down to write a song unless yo created sounds especially for that song

The Dx7 changed that for a lot of people the programming on that was too difficult so people started making patches and selling them now I havent programmied on any of my recent boards I used to do some on my sy85 but I haven tried lately on my roland I just buy expansion boards

you said so many true things you almost make me want to keep my triton extreme

what did you say buy a mo8 what is that I thought it was a keyboard but you made it seem like it is a sound card for the triton

and you mentioned buying the piano expanison card

before I go out and buy this thing is it going to gfive me what a yamaha does because if not I will pass

I have the concert piano expansion board for roland and it is ok but I am not staying up late to play it  Na Mean

I will try the user groups you mentioned that may help  thanks

[T_Keys]

Glory to God!!

T Keys I need to talk to you brother about the MO8 I cant get to that Waveform Bank thats in the Data List Book, help me out please?  717 291-9166 or 717 606 9043 is my cell I am on Sprint.   The MO 8 does have Weighted Keys they have a nice feel to them.  I havent gotten past the Pianos and EPs and Organs to mess with the Strings or Brass Yet which I do use especially the brass.  I hope they alright on here.  This Keyboard is very underated matter of fact no one even rates it they must look down on it but I tell you this This is the Sleeping Giant go and see for yourself at the music store.  And The Triton TR Series is a sleeper, It sounds way better than the Triton Studio.  They upgraded the ram the sounds and its a lot cheaper, dont sleep on this one either. 

God Bless You,


Brother Mark Wilson

I got u doc.

[csharp35]

i've owned all 3 boards...just traded the roland fantom for a korg TR61. Here's why...

At the church...we have a motif es rack we use for the primary keyboard player. Yamaha no doubt has better piano sounds than the korg. I also bought an extreme to use at the church to patch in strings when the secondary is playing organ.

The secondary keyboardist had the fantomx6...the only good sounds in our opinion were the pianos and some of the brass. The organ's sucked and the strings were okay. So instead...after much research and testing, we went with the Korg TR which has many of the brass, organ, bass, and string sounds from all the tritons...plus some other cool sounds. 

As far as the korg triton classic...you will always see them at any concert. For one big reason...the touch screen and sequencer! It is is user friendly especially when doing sequences. The motif's sequencer is not as user friendly and the fantom is okay...but the touch screen is a big factor...plus the sequencer is pretty locked. Also the triton's only downfall is the piano...but that's why you always see a motif on stage along with the triton.

I have a korg triton classic, kurzweil pc 88 and motif es8 (just upgraded) in the studio. Didnt get the MO because of the 64 polyphony, it not having all the sounds as the ES, no sampling, etc. Go to motifator.com to see the comparision charts of the sounds in the MO and ES.

I love my triton and will never part from it...it will go down in history.  Yamaha has the best piano's hands down (acoustic and electric). But for production...korg triton is it and you can always midi the sounds from the motif into the triton as an external sound source.

Bottom line...it all comes down to what your needs are...we felt it was no use to duplicate having good pianos with keeping the fantom and lack in the other areas...so we went for the Korg.

Hope this help!

[diverse379]

Amen I found the replies and the responses very informative

At first I was just venting but some of you shared some really good insights

like the layering I remember going to watch Nate Mcnair rehearse At Calvary Baptst Church and he would come up with the most awesome layers he was a master at combining sounds

In fact I used to do it too with my roland brain and my sy85v and my kurzweil micro piano

[benjimatt]

i thought that the piano sounds on the extreme were pretty decent.  but that was run through the church sound system. which is really good.

I think im going to buy a alesis fusion.  i really like the sounds.  the piano sounds pretty real to me. 

what do you guys think.  here are the options

alesis fusion
neko le


i wanted to save for the korg oasys but thats a lot of money. 

[Rjthakid]

Man, the price is right on the S08.  Does anybody know what the Piano sounds are like on that one?

[P_music]

Man, the price is right on the S08.  Does anybody know what the Piano sounds are like on that one?

They are alright, but not fantastic. It has the same sounds (wave ROM) as the Yamaha S03. Just like the S80/S30 have the same sounds, the S90/Motif have the same sounds, and the S90ES/Motif ES have the same sounds. Guitar Centers still sell the S03, so you can try it out in their stores and judge the sound for yourself. Be Blessed!

p_music