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Chord Forming
« on: March 03, 2006, 01:04:05 PM »
I know there may be some of yall out there who don't know exactly how to form a chord.  Well, here is an explanation of how it's done.  Chords are built using the intervals of 3rds, i.e. every member of a chord is a 3rd apart.

1. Lay out all the notes that are used on the keyboard or in a major scale:  A  B  C  D  E  F  G  A  B  C  D  E  F  G  A  B  C  D  E   

2. Pick a note that you want to form a chord on and write it down, this is your root note:  C

3. Once you got a root note, write down every other note after it:  C  E  G  B  D  F  A

The first 3 notes played together is your basic triad chord.
The first 4 notes played together is your basic 7th chord.
The first 5 notes played together is your basic 9th chord.
The first 6 notes played together is your basic 11th chord.
All 7 notes played together is your basic 13th chord.

That's all there is to forming a chord.  So, if you want to build a triad off A, you just say A-C-E.  If you want to build a triad off B, you just say B-D-F.  Is that clear to everybody?  Memorize your basic triads that are found in the key of C cuz every other chord you will every play is based from these chords:

C-E-G
D-F-A
E-G-B
F-A-C
G-B-D
A-C-E
B-D-F 



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Re: Chord Forming
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2006, 01:49:02 PM »
Now, we are going to take a look at specific chords and break them down into the intervals that make them up:

Major Chord

A major chord is made up of 3 notes w/each note being a 3rd apart.  Let's use the C major chord as an example, C-E-G:

C-E-G = C-E + E-G  Now, the first interval we have is C-E, which is a major 3rd.  The 2nd interval we have is E-G, which is a minor 3rd. Thus, we come to the conclusion that a major chord is made up of 2 intervals:  major 3rd on top, minor 3rd on bottom

*There is also a 3rd interval, C-G which is a major 5th between the root and last note.  This interval is not really necesarry to memorize cuz if you have your intervals of 3rds right, then the the interval of a 5th will already be present.  But it is good to know!!!


Minor Chord

A minor chord is made up of 3 notes w/each note being a 3rd apart.  The difference is in the intervals that make it up.  Let's use the C minor chord as an example, C-Eb-G:

C-Eb-G = C-Eb + Eb-G  Now, the first interval we have is C-Eb, which is a minor 3rd.  The 2nd interval we have is Eb-G, which is a major 3rd.  Thus, we come to the conclusion that a minor chord is also made up of 2 intervals:  minor 3rd on the top, major 3rd on the bottom


Diminished Chord

A diminished chord is made up of 3 notes w/each note being a 3rd apart.  The difference is in the intervals that make it up.  Let's use the C diminished chord as an example, C-Eb-Gb:

C-Eb-Gb = C-Eb + Eb-Gb  Now, the first interval we have is C-Eb, which is a minor 3rd.  The 2nd interval we have is Eb-Gb, which is also a minor 3rd.  Thus, we come to the conclusion that a dimished chord is also made up of 2 intervals:  minor 3rd on the top, minor 3rd on the bottom


Fully diminished Chord

A fully diminished chord is made up of 4 notes w/each note being a 3rd apart.  The difference is in the intervals that make it up.  Let's use the C fully diminished chord as an example, C-Eb-Gb-Bbb:

C-Eb-Gb-Bbb = C-Eb + Eb-Gb + Gb-Bbb  Now, the first interval we have is C-Eb, which is a minor 3rd.  The 2nd interval we have is Eb-Gb, which is also a minor 3rd.  The 3rd interval we have is Gb-Bbb, which is a minor 3rd.  Thus, we come to the conclusion that a dimished chord is also made up of 3 intervals:  minor 3rd on the top, minor 3rd in the middle, minor 3rd on the bottom


Augmented Chord

An augmented chord is made up of 3 notes w/each note being a 3rd apart.  The difference is in the intervals that make it up.  Let's use the C augmented chord as an example, C-E-G#:

C-E-G# = C-E + E-G#  Now, the first interval we have is C-E, which is a major 3rd.  The 2nd interval we have is E-G#, which is also a major 3rd. Thus, we come to the conclusion that an augmented chord is made up of 2 intervals:  major 3rd on top, majoor 3rd on bottom


Let's reveiw:

Major chord = major 3rd + minor 3rd
Minor chord = minor 3rd + major 3rd
Diminished chord = minor 3rd + minor 3rd
Fully diminished chord = minor 3rd + minor 3rd + minor 3rd
Augmented chord = major 3rd + major 3rd

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Re: Chord Forming
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2006, 01:50:08 PM »
You go T-Block. Nice posts

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Re: Chord Forming
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2006, 06:46:16 PM »
very laid-out and educational post!
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Re: Chord Forming
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2006, 01:33:22 PM »
T Block you are so talented.  You make things so simple.  You should be a teacher. May  God Bless you in area of your life.

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Re: Chord Forming
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2006, 01:39:59 PM »
I plan on being a music teacher, as soon as I get my degree.  I also want to open a school for teaching gospel music.  I guess I'm getting my start here on LGM.
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Re: Chord Forming
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2006, 02:42:23 PM »
I plan on being a music teacher, as soon as I get my degree.  I also want to open a school for teaching gospel music.  I guess I'm getting my start here on LGM.

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Re: Chord Forming
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2006, 06:11:23 PM »
I am new to this awesome forum....I plan to really soak up like a sponge the next few months. I have a simply question concerning chord terminology.  Say, for instance, in the key of C:
the I chord is C
the IV chord is F
the V chord is G

What chords or notes are 2, 3, and 6?  I hear these referred to often, but I am not sure if they are major chords, minors, or derivities of these.

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Re: Chord Forming
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2006, 10:25:55 PM »
Here is all the chords built off all the scale degrees.  Examples are in C:

I = major (C-E-G)
ii = minor (D-F-A)
iii = minor (E-G-B)
IV = major (F-A-C)
V = major (G-B-D)
vi = minor (A-C-E)
vii = diminished (B-D-F)
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Re: Chord Forming
« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2006, 11:43:00 AM »
T-Block,

When you get your classes started, I want to be sitting on your front row  :) !

I primarily play by ear -- playing right handed chords (not knowing the names) and a left handed bass line (instead of left handed chords).

Two Things for you T-Block:

1)  I recognize that in order to grow skill-wise, I need to start memorizing chord names so that I know WHATchords I am playing.

2)  To go along with RH chords, I definitely want to grow in terms of playing left handed chords (for a fuller sound).

Any suggestions where to begin?

Many blessings and thanks for your contribution to the growth of others on this site!

Swade88





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Re: Chord Forming
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2006, 08:44:28 AM »
T-Block, you are at it again..................keep it coming!

Can we get a conference call class or something or even a live class on the internet?  I'm here in Illinois and I'm sure other people in other states want to be your students, outside of LGM also.
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Re: Chord Forming
« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2006, 03:14:47 AM »
Here is all the chords built off all the scale degrees.  Examples are in C:

I = major (C-E-G)
ii = minor (D-F-A)
iii = minor (E-G-B)
IV = major (F-A-C)
V = major (G-B-D)
vi = minor (A-C-E)
vii = diminished (B-D-F)

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Re: Chord Forming
« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2006, 07:59:54 AM »
Can you help with 6th and 7th chords

I just can't stretch to do them.

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Re: Chord Forming
« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2006, 11:24:44 AM »
I know there may be some of yall out there who don't know exactly how to form a chord.  Well, here is an explanation of how it's done.  Chords are built using the intervals of 3rds, i.e. every member of a chord is a 3rd apart.

1. Lay out all the notes that are used on the keyboard or in a major scale:  A  B  C  D  E  F  G  A  B  C  D  E  F  G  A  B  C  D  E   

2. Pick a note that you want to form a chord on and write it down, this is your root note:  C

3. Once you got a root note, write down every other note after it:  C  E  G  B  D  F  A

The first 3 notes played together is your basic triad chord.
The first 4 notes played together is your basic 7th chord.
The first 5 notes played together is your basic 9th chord.
The first 6 notes played together is your basic 11th chord.
All 7 notes played together is your basic 13th chord.

That's all there is to forming a chord.  So, if you want to build a triad off A, you just say A-C-E.  If you want to build a triad off B, you just say B-D-F.  Is that clear to everybody?  Memorize your basic triads that are found in the key of C cuz every other chord you will every play is based from these chords:

C-E-G
D-F-A
E-G-B
F-A-C
G-B-D
A-C-E
B-D-F 





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Re: Chord Forming
« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2006, 09:47:21 AM »
This is awesome T-Block.

My question is how do you know when to play these  basic triad, diminiished, augmented chords once formed???
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Re: Chord Forming
« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2006, 10:52:24 AM »
This is awesome T-Block.

My question is how do you know when to play these  basic triad, diminiished, augmented chords once formed???



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Re: Chord Forming
« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2006, 12:48:42 PM »
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It's all up to you, and the sound that you are looking for.


Good answer my student!!! 

MikaSue, you have to do some experimenting with the chords.  I have tons of posts on progressions and stuff you can study, but like my boy sjonathan02 said, it's basically up to you!!!
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Re: Chord Forming
« Reply #17 on: May 17, 2006, 11:44:22 AM »
I understand but isn't there some theory of which one to move to from where.
What if I pick the wrong chord at teh wrong time of the song?

I read all the theory posts.  It's not clicking how to move to the different types of chords.
I have the general understanding that if I want to sound sad  go minor   suspenful go "um forgot"  ....

Help
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Re: Chord Forming
« Reply #18 on: May 17, 2006, 12:35:10 PM »
I understand but isn't there some theory of which one to move to from where.
What if I pick the wrong chord at teh wrong time of the song?

I read all the theory posts.  It's not clicking how to move to the different types of chords.
I have the general understanding that if I want to sound sad  go minor   suspenful go "um forgot"  ....

Help


Again, if I may, teacher:


There are general 'rules of thumb' as it pertains to going from one chord to the next. For instance, you can go from the 1 chord to the 3 chord to the 4 chord, and in between there, you can take the 'scenic route' (my term, I have it patented   ;) :D) to get from chord to another chord.

For example:

From 1 chord to 3 chord in Db:


Db Ab/ Db Eb F Ab

F C / Ab Bb C Eb


From 1 chord to 3 chord in Db taking the 'scenic route'

Db Ab/ Db Eb F Ab

G D F/ Bb C F

C G/ Bb E G

F C/ Ab Bb C Eb


Now, forgive me if the chords are messed up, I'm not at my computer. I hope this helps.
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Re: Chord Forming
« Reply #19 on: May 17, 2006, 12:48:35 PM »
It helps sjonathan.  I'm not ready for the scenic route. I'm just trying to know to move from the I to the 3  or the I to the 4 and when do go where.   I guess it comes from practice aand just learning progressions.

Thanks for your input!
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