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Eccentric-Rhythm

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Re: Better Than Dennis...
« Reply #80 on: March 07, 2006, 08:34:41 AM »
WHY DO I HAVE A FELING YOU WERE TALKIN ABOUT #1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dude, you got the pure Devil in you this morning, lol...

He's full of DEMONS!!! ya, I am old...get over it.

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Re: Better Than Dennis...
« Reply #81 on: March 07, 2006, 08:36:27 AM »
***Splashes MOE with a bucket of water***


Ooops, my bad - that wasn't Holy Water! Be right back!

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Re: Better Than Dennis...
« Reply #82 on: March 07, 2006, 08:38:46 AM »
WHY DO I HAVE A FELING YOU WERE TALKIN ABOUT #1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dude, you got the pure Devil in you this morning, lol...

He's full of DEMONS!!! ya, I am old...get over it.

LOL YOUR NEW NAME IS D-R,DEMON RHYTHEM

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Re: Better Than Dennis...
« Reply #83 on: March 07, 2006, 08:40:08 AM »
***Splashes MOE with a bucket of water***


Ooops, my bad - that wasn't Holy Water! Be right back!

Wait...Dont bother.... Moe's Melting...He's Melting...
 ;D ;D

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Re: Better Than Dennis...
« Reply #84 on: March 07, 2006, 08:42:14 AM »
WHY DO I HAVE A FELING YOU WERE TALKIN ABOUT #1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dude, you got the pure Devil in you this morning, lol...

He's full of DEMONS!!! ya, I am old...get over it.

LOL YOUR NEW NAME IS D-R,DEMON RHYTHEM

and yours: MD is MOE DEMONS than me!!! haha.

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Re: Better Than Dennis...
« Reply #85 on: March 07, 2006, 08:43:14 AM »
LOL AND D IS D-D DIVIN DEMONS! LOL

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Re: Better Than Dennis...
« Reply #86 on: March 07, 2006, 08:43:39 AM »
WHY DO I HAVE A FELING YOU WERE TALKIN ABOUT #1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dude, you got the pure Devil in you this morning, lol...

He's full of DEMONS!!! ya, I am old...get over it.

LOL YOUR NEW NAME IS D-R,DEMON RHYTHEM

and yours: MD is MOE DEMONS than me!!! haha.

lol
lol

My man said MOE DEMONS.

If you were to create a name like that, you'd be banned within half an hour.

Eccentric-Rhythm

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Re: Better Than Dennis...
« Reply #87 on: March 07, 2006, 08:46:55 AM »
WHY DO I HAVE A FELING YOU WERE TALKIN ABOUT #1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dude, you got the pure Devil in you this morning, lol...

He's full of DEMONS!!! ya, I am old...get over it.

LOL YOUR NEW NAME IS D-R,DEMON RHYTHEM

and yours: MD is MOE DEMONS than me!!! haha.

lol
lol

My man said MOE DEMONS.

If you were to create a name like that, you'd be banned within half an hour.

True....and I dont know of any Divine Demons....I really think that would get him tossed!!!

God BLess.

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Re: Better Than Dennis...
« Reply #88 on: March 07, 2006, 08:51:48 AM »
YALL ARE A MESS!  :P :P :P

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Re: Better Than Dennis...
« Reply #89 on: March 07, 2006, 05:44:10 PM »
You know, it occurred to me just now, as I was watching clips of Donati..

Many guys can't appreciate his playing, 'cause what he does go RIGHT over their heads! Hate to say that ... but, once you start to REALLY understand music - you'll hear that guy play and go, "That ain't God. That aint' God at all...". He is that ridiculous on the set man.

Donati For Emperor!!

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« Reply #90 on: March 07, 2006, 05:48:00 PM »
I'm not callin' Donati a beast, I'm saying he may be the BEST.

Their seem to be a lot of beast's, but no many guys can be mentioned in the category of "the best". Even if arguably...

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« Reply #91 on: March 07, 2006, 05:51:48 PM »
You know, it occurred to me just now, as I was watching clips of Donati..

Many guys can't appreciate his playing, 'cause what he does go RIGHT over their heads! Hate to say that ... but, once you start to REALLY understand music - you'll hear that guy play and go, "That ain't God. That aint' God at all...". He is that ridiculous on the set man.

Donati For Emperor!!

....and another Classic Statement by "Maestro D".......

"People have different taste's. The other day, a friend of mine told me he didn't like Chris Dave, 'cause his playing was too unusual. I didn't tell him he was crazy. Everything isn't for everybody."       - Maestro Divine

           Nuff said.. 

           

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Re: Better Than Dennis...
« Reply #92 on: March 07, 2006, 07:33:16 PM »
You know, it occurred to me just now, as I was watching clips of Donati..

Many guys can't appreciate his playing, 'cause what he does go RIGHT over their heads! Hate to say that ... but, once you start to REALLY understand music - you'll hear that guy play and go, "That ain't God. That aint' God at all...". He is that ridiculous on the set man.

Donati For Emperor!!

First off I am TRULY  digging the icon. That fits you,  :).

And you are right. Donati goes straight over most folks head.
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Re: Better Than Dennis...
« Reply #93 on: March 08, 2006, 01:30:16 AM »
TERREON GULLEY, RON BRUNER, TEDDY CAMPBELL & CHRIS JOHNSON...ARE THE BADDEST CATS OUT RIGHT NOW WITH VIRGIL DONATI & HORACIAO HERNANDEZ!

DC STILL ON TOP!  LEGEND!!  HE AND VINNY ON A WHOLE ANOTHER LEVEL!

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« Reply #94 on: March 08, 2006, 06:36:56 AM »
With some of the comments on opinions as to who is the best...or better than Dennis, is anyone hearing any drummers outside of the music they like??? I am not saying go buy Secular Music. Absolutely not. But there is a thing called Drummerworld.com. I can name 10 guys off of that site that blow away most of the drummers mentioned on here. We need to take a another look at what moves us!

Maybe Div & Sabe are right..... its over the heads of some.

God Bless.

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Re: Better Than Dennis...
« Reply #95 on: March 08, 2006, 09:58:43 AM »
Man, derico is a beast but he aint dennis and he sure aint better than him.

ya jive skippy!!!!!!!!!!!! I think when it comes down to like all that crazy double bass work thomas lang and v donati may have chambers but overall chambers is the better drummer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 8) but then those cats gotta use double pedals chambers one foot against lang and donati on a single pedal would blow theres out of the water.!!!!!!!!!! peace 8)


Not...

They are doing double and triple-stroke rolls leading with either foot which already shows superior control  in sengle pedal movements. Do your reseach. As well Thomas and Virgil do complicated patterns on the hi hat either foot as well which is harder to incorporate than bass pedal rhythms which again, shows superior control. Lets keep facts facts. NO slight to Dennis Chambers' abilities but the fact is these guys have better control and technical prowess than he does.

whatever you say sabe i still will go with dennis yeah u right with that double and triplet stuff i have heard them do that but still chambers is my man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 8)

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Re: Better Than Dennis...
« Reply #96 on: March 08, 2006, 02:07:40 PM »
Look we could keep this thread going and it really would most be opinion because of the lack of objectivity, exposure to music, and music education and lack of vision.  When we cannot see why a peson would practice 4--6 hours a day on the drums we don't undersatnd what they acheive in the process or understand that the journey was more important than the destination/goal. We also thendon't understand how important proper objective critique/anaylisis/blatant truth is. Notice I didn't say opion.

Come on... everyone that has suffered through level 3 High School English/Math/Science or college Chemistry, Biology, Psychology, Physics etc remembers that if you cannot support nad prove your hypothesis ypour work and your opinion means nothing.   

People whom have never been through a juried competition want understand the evaluation processes that should be a part of all our thinking and growth. There will always be someone qualified, tried and proven to be the best on a given day. Winner, victor, champion, master, king, god (little "g" not big "G" are all levels of trial and completion. Anyone, I mean anyyone who tells you that no one is better than another is out of touch with reality. They are of touch with kingdom principles. These positions are all mentioned in the bible yet we have gotten so churched that we act like we don't need to use them  or understand them. That would mean responsibility and accountability. that would mean experienceing loss, disappointment and sometimes failure just to get what we were destined to have. What that would mean we have to set goals, which requireresponsibilty and accountability.. naw, opinions are easier. "Alex I'll take opions...".   

We grow through the proving grounds not opinion grounds. Opions should spark discussion/investigation not be a foundation.

For threads like this to grow each of us we need to stay away from so much emotional opinion and dig/fish in the deep/renew our minds and admit our thruths to ourselves that influence our opions which we base our choses on,  be them right or wrong. For most of us, WE need to set our goals higher and practice some self-discipline and raise our level of understanding by seeeking knowledge/increasing knowledge. We need to strive to understand what we are doing and what we should be doing as related to mechanical/technical skillset. That will inable us to better understand other drummers and their advanced techniques and thinking processes better.

It's time to grow folks and get off the wow-eee factor. We are passing on too much unfounded person opinon information rather than real food. Let step it up folks.
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Re: Better Than Dennis...
« Reply #97 on: March 09, 2006, 05:09:33 PM »
Man, derico is a beast but he aint dennis and he sure aint better than him.

ya jive skippy!!!!!!!!!!!! I think when it comes down to like all that crazy double bass work thomas lang and v donati may have chambers but overall chambers is the better drummer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 8) but then those cats gotta use double pedals chambers one foot against lang and donati on a single pedal would blow theres out of the water.!!!!!!!!!! peace 8)


Not...

They are doing double and triple-stroke rolls leading with either foot which already shows superior control  in sengle pedal movements. Do your reseach. As well Thomas and Virgil do complicated patterns on the hi hat either foot as well which is harder to incorporate than bass pedal rhythms which again, shows superior control. Lets keep facts facts. NO slight to Dennis Chambers' abilities but the fact is these guys have better control and technical prowess than he does.

What about Vinnie in comparison to these dudes, Sabe?

Opinions not based purely on emotion, would be appreciated.

Musically I think Vinnie has proven superiority. Technically I don't know if he can match their independence but outside of the indpendence/speed I think that he would hold his on. Seeing those guys go at it Vinnie, Thomas Lang and Virgil would take creativity to new heights. I think that they all would have to mentally go past the physical which they all ahve a fair share of. Virgil probably is the sickest thinker. Vinnie is the wise one and Thomas is a blend of both so he is the "wild card." The fact that all three compose and read on another level just leaves you at creativity out side of obviuos physical attributes. Vinnie is older and doesn't seem to push the speed thing as much. Virgil and Thomas are still doing 6 hour practice sessions. Thomas Lang obviously has them on the conditioning factor so then it goes back to the mental.

So, are you going to go out on a limb and see Thomas and Virgil are the two Kings of the drum world, Sabe?!?!  ;D I'd agree.


Wait! What about Jo Jo, Sabe?

Guys, I just watched Virgil Donati's clips on Drummerworld. . . I actually yawned!! It bored me. It was nothing INNOVATIVE. I watched a kid on the Modern Drummer DVD from 2004 do some of that stuff. And if you really study them, a lot of things that they do (especially T. Lang) came from Dennis. Yeah, they took some of it up a notch, but EVERYBODY with 2 pedals is doing that stuff now. BORING!!!! Give me a church drummer ANYDAY.

This weekend I got the chance to see Aaron Spears, Spanky, Booty, Erik Tribett and some others shed. . .I really wasn't into Aaron Spears, but the boy is creative. . .with ONE pedal (no cheating). I know some of you are going to charge me up after this, but that's okay. I'm still half dreaming from my Donati-induced coma. . . so what you say won't change my opinion. And I'm not trying to change yours. . .anskleoadfskfjkjgdksssssssssssssssssss sssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss sssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

Whoops, I fell asleep again just thinking about Virgil. . .
It's God's way. . . or Hell to pay

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Re: Better Than Dennis...
« Reply #98 on: March 10, 2006, 12:55:00 AM »
Guys, I just watched Virgil Donati's clips on Drummerworld. . . . It was nothing INNOVATIVE.

Wow... Talk about closed minded. To say you don't like Virgil's playing is your right and that is your opinion. To say it's not innovative is a falsehood/not a fact. To go so far as to say that Virgil and Thomas got some stuff from Dennis is a possibility because they are both knowledgable and well versed. To insinuate that you can see Dennis in either Virgil or Thomas playing is unfounded to say the least. However to down play what they have accomplished is short-sighted. The fact is that Dennis , Virgil and Thomas mastered rudiments which give them a firm foundation to communicate through the drum set.

To say that you saw the 14 year old kid on the MD Fest 2005 DVD doing the same thing was again short-sighted. Just because he was doing 4 way independence and double-pedal does not mean his was doing the same thing. The beauty is always in the details.

I am not going to toss it back and forth with you or try to change you opinion. However, I will advise you to expand your vision and renew your mind. It seems like you have allowed opinion to take over objectivity.
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Re: Better Than Dennis...
« Reply #99 on: March 13, 2006, 12:50:55 AM »
im honored just for some of yall dudes to write my name next virgil much less dennis

yall iz crazy i definitly coped a lot of stuff from dennis but who didnt when In The Pocket came out and stuff
i love Dennis,, when i was 9 years old he let me sit in......for a whole week at kimbals east
when he was playin with Graffiti.....my grams even cooked him fried chicken before we had the cops called on us for playing to late.....

Dennis Chamber definitly my top 3 drummers
i learned a lot from him
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