LearnGospelMusic.com Community

Please login or register.
Pages: [1]   Go Down

Author Topic: Picking up songs  (Read 1065 times)

rjthakid

  • Guest
Picking up songs
« on: March 22, 2006, 10:11:26 AM »
I've been playing for 3 months.

I know my scales.  I know my Major and Minor Chords, Augmented and diminished, 7ths, and SOME 9ths, 11ths and 13ths. 

What do I have to do to progress into playing songs?

I could do what I've been doing, which is learn song on my own (listen to a song, play around with it till I find the bass line progression, add suitable chords, lather, rinse, repeat)

But I KNOW u guys don't sit and learn EVERY SONG you've played.  You recognize the progression and flow from there.  My instructor tells me that people have gotten up to sing a song he's never heard before, and he's played them because he recognizes the pattern/progression.

My question is........

How do you get there?  Is it only a matter of learning alot of different songs?

I need the more seasoned players to let me know.

rjthakid

  • Guest
Re: Picking up songs
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2006, 12:28:30 PM »
Oh, come on!  Don't just read and leave.....REPLY!!!!

Offline bishopcole

  • LGM Royalty
  • LGM Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2811
  • Gender: Male
  • YES INDEED!!! AND THATS A RAP!!!

Re: Picking up songs
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2006, 03:08:05 PM »
I've been playing for 3 months.

I know my scales.  I know my Major and Minor Chords, Augmented and diminished, 7ths, and SOME 9ths, 11ths and 13ths. 

What do I have to do to progress into playing songs?

I could do what I've been doing, which is learn song on my own (listen to a song, play around with it till I find the bass line progression, add suitable chords, lather, rinse, repeat)

But I KNOW u guys don't sit and learn EVERY SONG you've played.  You recognize the progression and flow from there.  My instructor tells me that people have gotten up to sing a song he's never heard before, and he's played them because he recognizes the pattern/progression.

My question is........

How do you get there?  Is it only a matter of learning alot of different songs?

I need the more seasoned players to let me know.

Doc, it comes down to your ear training along with your music knowledge. Your ear will tell you excatly when to go to a change or even hearing a change will come common place. I do it all the time by playing behind other soloists, even though I dont know there song. All I need to do is hear it one time through, then it is on after that, because chord patterns are relative and predictable in the circle of fifths. This is why your ear training is SO IMPORTANT!!! God bless, Bishop Cole
"Stay in God Always"  - Bishop Lamar Cole
"It's not about the Music, it's about the Ministry"

rjthakid

  • Guest
Re: Picking up songs
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2006, 03:36:18 PM »
OK.  Now should I do to develop my ear? 

rjthakid

  • Guest
Re: Picking up songs
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2006, 03:37:54 PM »
OK.  Now should I do to develop my ear? 

*What should I do to develop my ear.

Offline diverse379

  • LGM Royalty
  • LGM Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2084
  • Gender: Male
  • Players Govern Players Spectators Form Opinions

Re: Picking up songs
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2006, 04:11:43 PM »
Quote
I could do what I've been doing, which is learn song on my own (listen to a song, play around with it till I find the bass line progression, add suitable chords, lather, rinse, repeat)
This grueling process you have used to learn songs is a fantastic way to begin learning

There really are few that can match it.  it is very hard work but the rewards are well worth the effort

if you want to make it pay of even more

keep a note book handy

and after you learn the song try to play it in a different key

now what will happen is that you will be using both your ear and your mind to make this happen

this is difficult too but again you cant beat the ear and physical skills this will deveilop

There is another thing you can do get a chord book one that has chords that harmonize all twelve melody notes

they have quite a few that do that

but even if you dont and you need to get one of the books with the picture chords thats fine too

lets say your melody note is a c

and you want to make that chord sound better turn to the c chord section and begin playing around with the various chords shown until you get to one that sounds good

then practice that chord in in half steps all the way up the keyboard

if you do these things you will see that by september you will be able to play a lot of songs and your ability to pick up and heaR  have improved a great deal

without a theoretcial base this is the best way to learn and approach gospel playing because most of what we do is by ear anyway

and the theory for me anyway was a way to get around doing what you are doing right now

and guess what now that i want to get to the next level i am doing exactly what you are doing right now,.


so keep shedding man dont quit its tough stuff you are goin through right now but with each song it will get easier and easier

by the way that note book i told you to get

when you are learning a song in a new key you will stunble upon a chord that was a mistake but sounds good

well write it down eventually you will have several of these mistakes but sound good chords and you will have your own bag of tricks

dont doubt yourself you are doing what all the old masters did that didnt have a teacher they learned from records

think about it you are studying from the masters right now Kirk Fred Hez tye syhirley

the world is yours keep on keepin on

na mean?
To be or not to be that is the question you anwer when you pray practice and read your word

rjthakid

  • Guest
Re: Picking up songs
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2006, 09:22:15 PM »
I feel encouraged.  I just needed to hear that I'm headed in the right direction  ;D  let me go practice!  Later man.

Offline Muziqmann

  • LGM Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 665

Re: Picking up songs
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2006, 03:11:04 PM »
I feel encouraged.  I just needed to hear that I'm headed in the right direction  ;D  let me go practice!  Later man.

That's a great way to become a great musician in the Lord's church. 
When the minstrel played, the hand of the LORD was upon him.  II Kings 3:15
Pages: [1]   Go Up