progression

[peace613]

what is a 2-5-1 progression and what are the chords for this type of progression
hope someone can help

[RONNIEJR99]

I'M NEW AT THIS BUT A 2-5-1 PROGRESSION IS JUST ONE OF THE MANY CHORD PROGRESSIONS IN MUSIC. IT IS USUALLY USED AS A THE TURNAROUND IN SONGS. THE CHORDS VARY WITH THE KEY YOU ARE IN. IN THE KEY OF C YOU HAVE 8 NOTES C(1) D(2) E(3) F(4) G(5) A(6) B(7) C. THE LAST C IS AN OCTAVE UP FROM THE FIRST. IN THIS KEY 2-5-1 WOULD BE D(2) G(5) C(1). 

HOPE THIS HELPS 

[gtrdave]

Specifically, in the key of C your 2 chord is a D minor, your 5 chord is a G major, and the 1 chord is C major.

The proper number designations are roman numerals. The 2 chord would be ii (lower case for minor chords), the 5 would be V, and the 1 would be I.

You can add the 7ths to each chord to dress them up a little: Dm7 - G7 - Cmaj7

[RONNIEJR99]

THANKS GTRDAVE, I FORGOT ABOUT THAT WHOLE MAJ MIN MIN MAJ MAJ ........PART . SORRY PEACE613

[peace613]

will the prgression always be maj maj min min maj in any key

[uriahsmusic]

here ya go!

Each note in a the major scale has a number that goes along with it!

The notes are in order and so are the numbers!

The c major scale for example contains the following notes!

C  D   E  F  G  A  B   

THE FIRST NOTE IN THE SCALE IS "C" SO IT IS CALLED THE "1" OR I

THE SECOND NOTE IN THE SCALE IS "D" AND BECAUSE IT IS THE 2ND NOTE IN THE SCALE IT IS CALLED THE "2" OR II

YOU WILL NOTICE THAT ROMAN NUMERALS ARE USED FOR THIS PURPOSE!

I II III  IV V VI VII

WHEN YOU ARE SPEAKING OF NOTES...USE REGULAR NUMBERS LIKE "D" IS THE 2ND!

BUT WHEN YOU ARE SPEAKING OF CHORDS USE THE ROMAN NUMERAL..."D" IS THE II CHORD..(BECAUSE WE ARE SPEAKING OF CHORDS...WE USE THE ROMAN NUMERAL II TO IDENTIFY IT!)

SO

SO!...EACH CHORD IN THE MAJOR SCALE  HAS A NUMBER THAT GOES WITH IT...AND BECAUSE IT IS A CHORD IT ALSO HAS TO BE GIVEN A NAME THAT DESCRIBES WHAT KIND OF CHORD IT IS!

FOR EXAMPLE SINCE THIS IS A MAJOR SCALE THE "I" CHORD OR THE 1ST CHORD IN THE SCALE WILL BE A MAJOR CHORD!
                                      !!! NOTE!!!!
****IF THIS WERE A MINOR SCALE THE 1ST CHORD WOULD BE A MINOR CHORD!****

THERE IS A FORMULA FOR THE ORDER IN WHICH THE CHORDS IS TO GO!

1            2            3           4           5            6            7
C            D            E           F           G           A            B                               
MAJOR....MINOR...MINOR...MAJOR...MAJOR. ...MINOR ...DIMINISHED...AND BACK TO THE BEGINNING!

SO IN THE KEY OF C MAJOR IF YOU WERE TO GO BY THE EXAMPLE ABOVE...

2-5-1 (OR II-V-I ....WRITTEN CORRECTLY!)  WOULD BE  D MINOR.... TO  G MAJOR TO....  C MAJOR!

I-VI-II-V  WOULD BE  C MAJOR  TO A MINOR   TO D MINOR   TO G MAJOR!!!

YOU TRY THESE...NAME THE CHORDS IN C MAJOR USING THE INFORMATION ABOVE!

III-VI-VII-II

VI-II-III-IV-II-VII-I

IV-III-II-VII-III-VI-II-V

[skootermoss1]

What do the different modes represent?  and do they represent a particular key? ???

[gtrdave]

What do the different modes represent?  and do they represent a particular key? ???

Modes are scales, period, and they typically represent different degrees of a given scale/key.

If your root scale/key is G major (diatonic major or Ionian mode) then the second degree (based on the ii chord) is Dorian, the third degree is Phrygian, 4th degree is Lydian, 5th is Mixolydian, 6th is Aeolian (or diatonic minor), 7th is Locrian (diminished), and 8th is back to Ionian.
All of the above is based on G major scale. As a matter of fact, they're all the same exact notes but each scale starts on a different root (or different degree) from the diatonic major scale.

That said, ANY scale can have modes based on the different notes of the scale. Pentatonic major, harmonic minor, enigmatic scale, hungarian minor, etc...They may not have the classical names of the 7 traditional modes above but they will be different modes/scales/degrees none the less.

[skootermoss1]

thanks gtrdave.  that was very helpful.  I can do scales, but some people call them modes and that threw me off a little. 

[gtrdave]

thanks gtrdave.  that was very helpful.  I can do scales, but some people call them modes and that threw me off a little. 

Well a mode is a scale so the terms can be interchanged...somewhat.
There are 7 "classical" modes: Ionian, Dorian, Phrygian, Lydian, Mixolydian, Aeolian, and Locrian.
Each of those modes/scales has a distinct sound (interval structure).

Note: 2 of the modes (Ionian and Aeolian) are popularly known as the diatonic major and diatonic minor scales, respectively...a.k.a. major scale and minor scale (although there are other "major" and "minor" scales, the diatonic major and minor are what we always refer to as THE major and THE minor scale).

There are more than the 7 "classical" (or church) modes but they don't have names other than something like "2nd degree of X scale".
Example: the Enigmatic scale in C = C - Db - E - F# - G# - A# - B - C
The 2nd degree of that scale would start on Db and follow through the notes to the next Db (octave).
It would be a "mode" of Enigmatic...the 2nd degree of Enigmatic to be exact.

Go ahead and use THAT in a hymn this weekend...