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Fraternity and Greek Lifestyle
« on: April 14, 2006, 02:30:12 PM »
I just wanted to get people's take on the Greek lifestyle that takes place on college campuses. I personally do not agree with it, but I think it would be interesting to see other's take on it. When I say greek I mean like the Delta's, Omega's, AKAs...etc. Do you think this is something that a Christian should get involved in?
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Re: Fraternity and Greek Lifestyle
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2006, 02:34:23 PM »
I don't know much about it, but I have a friend who is an Alpha.  He got saved after college, and he says a lot of the stuff he did in the fraternity he wouldn't do now.  But now as a graduate, he is still a member, and doesn't really engage in anything to compromise his faith. 

It's a tough question, though, because his affiliation could be considered an endorsement of a lifestyle that is not becoming holiness.  So are there people who were saved when they pledged, and did they have to compromise their convictions for the sake of membership?

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Re: Fraternity and Greek Lifestyle
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2006, 02:47:57 PM »
I thought about it before I got saved. I was a WIZ (Women Interested in ZETA), but wanted to pledge DElta(didn't have little sis, had little bro). In college you see alot and hear alot. I think someone said this before, why would I get beat and humiliated for you to call me "Soro" and I just forget about what happen.

Case in point, I was told that If they hit me or do any physical harm to me that I could not respond if I was on line. I told them they must be crazy, I didn't need that type of love or socialization.

I saw during pledge week(hell week as they call it), one of my Big Bros(Sigma) get thrown thru a window by his natural brother and he still crossed over. I saw one get whipped with a whip and they lashed up his back so bad to where he had to go to the hospital. I've seen alot of negative to try to gain a positive.

You're frowned upon if you do not go thru what your frats went to get 3 letters across there chest and they will call you a half-breed. I said that to say this, it's not worth a saint to go thru this, b/c those 3 lettes can't do anything for your soul, but GOD can.
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Re: Fraternity and Greek Lifestyle
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2006, 03:06:29 PM »
I know of a couple of young ladies that have renounced their affiliation with Delta because of the idolatry that it embraces. One of the young ladies is now an elder in our church and her testimony is off the hinges. She travels to different universities teaching about the spiritual influences of Greekdom as well as proving BY scripture why this lifestyle is not becoming for a Christian. She will actually be at Savannah State teaching, "Biblical Perspective on Greedom", this is sure to be interesting. God has anointed  her for this because she KNOWS about all of the "hazing" and other under the table stuff that goes on. Don't want to sway anyone's opinion so continue.
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Re: Fraternity and Greek Lifestyle
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2006, 04:22:56 PM »
I'm not greek....but I don't understand what the big deal is?  I know several well respected preachers who proudly claim their GREEK affiliation.  MLK Jr.  was an ALPHA man.  Bishop VASHTI MURPHY McKENZIE....first woman bishop of the AME church is a proud DELTA and it's national chaplain....her grandmother was founder.  It's not something she leaves out of her biography.

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Re: Fraternity and Greek Lifestyle
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2006, 04:35:41 PM »
"I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member"
-Groucho Marx

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I always thought that was a funny quote.

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Re: Fraternity and Greek Lifestyle
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2006, 05:20:58 PM »
I joined for the wrong reasons.  I think the whole experience is something you outgrow anyway.  Nothing more sad than seeing a 40 yr old brother tryin to step.  haha
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Re: Fraternity and Greek Lifestyle
« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2006, 05:29:57 PM »
I can't really post much right now, but remember that the greeks were a heathen nation, and a lot of there stuff was idolotry, I got some interesting stuff to give you all when I come home from preaching, remember ya'll pray for Bishop... God's gotta great deposit tonight...

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Re: Fraternity and Greek Lifestyle
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2006, 05:33:37 PM »
I can't even front Bishop....you're right.  I'm glad for some of the friendships I made, but it's like I don't even claim anymore.
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Re: Fraternity and Greek Lifestyle
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2006, 04:12:32 PM »
I can't really post much right now, but remember that the greeks were a heathen nation, and a lot of there stuff was idolotry, I got some interesting stuff to give you all when I come home from preaching, remember ya'll pray for Bishop... God's gotta great deposit tonight...

I completely agree with you...the foundation of Greekdom is idolatry and just because other preachers are apart of fraternities does not make it right. I think that problem we run into in the body of Christ is that we allow preachers to set the standard of holiness and righteousness for God. The standard that we should use is the word of GOD and his word says,

Thy shall have no other God before me...(Athena and all of the other greek gods and goddesses that fraternities worship)

Be ye holy for I am holy...(I know the hazing process is not something that Jesus would participate in, it goes against GOD and the heart of compassion that the word compels us to have for others.)

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 Now when they had passed through Amphipolis and Apollonia, they came to Thessalonica, where was a synagogue of the Jews: 2 And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures, 3 Opening and alleging, that Christ must needs have suffered, and risen again from the dead; and that this Jesus, whom F34 I preach unto you, is Christ. 4 And some of them believed, and consorted with Paul and Silas; and of the devout Greeks a great multitude, and of the chief women not a few. 5 But the Jews which believed not, moved with envy, took unto them certain lewd fellows of the baser sort, and gathered a company, and set all the city on an uproar, and assaulted the house of Jason, and sought to bring them out to the people. 6 And when they found them not, they drew Jason and certain brethren unto the rulers of the city, crying, These that have turned the world upside down are come hither also; 7 Whom Jason hath received: and these all do contrary to the decrees of Caesar, saying that there is another king, one Jesus. 8 And they troubled the people and the rulers of the city, when they heard these things. 9 And when they had taken security of Jason, and of the other, they let them go.

10 And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews. 11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so. 12 Therefore many of them believed; also of honourable women which were Greeks, and of men, not a few. 13 But when the Jews of Thessalonica had knowledge that the word of God was preached of Paul at Berea, they came thither also, and stirred up the people. 14 And then immediately the brethren sent away Paul to go as it were to the sea: but Silas and Timotheus abode there still. 15 And they that conducted Paul brought him unto Athens: and receiving a commandment unto Silas and Timotheus for to come to him with all speed, they departed.

16 Now while Paul waited for them at Athens, his spirit was stirred in him, when he saw the city wholly given to idolatry. 17 Therefore disputed he in the synagogue with the Jews, and with the devout persons, and in the market daily with them that met with him. 18 Then certain philosophers of the Epicureans, and of the Stoicks, encountered him. And some said, What will this babbler F35 say? other some, He seemeth to be a setter forth of strange gods: because he preached unto them Jesus, and the resurrection. 19 And they took him, and brought him unto Areopagus, saying, May we know what this new doctrine, whereof thou speakest, is? 20 For thou bringest certain strange things to our ears: we would know therefore what these things mean. 21 (For all the Athenians and strangers which were there spent their time in nothing else, but either to tell, or to hear some new thing.)

22 Then Paul stood in the midst of Mars' hill, F36 and said, Ye men of Athens, I perceive that in all things ye are too superstitious. 23 For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, F37 I found an altar with this inscription, TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you. 24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands; 25 Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things; 26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation; 27 That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us: 28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring. 29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device. 30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: 31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given F38 assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.

32 And when they heard of the resurrection of the dead, some mocked: and others said, We will hear thee again of this matter. 33 So Paul departed from among them. 34 Howbeit certain men clave unto him, and believed: among the which was Dionysius the Areopagite, and a woman named Damaris, and others with them.

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Re: Fraternity and Greek Lifestyle
« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2006, 03:50:45 PM »
Still looking for some more input on this subject!!
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Re: Fraternity and Greek Lifestyle
« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2006, 04:14:43 PM »
I was apart of a fraternity in college, but it was christian. Gamma Phi Delta Chistian Fraternity, Inc. (http://www.gphid.org/) I can testify that my experience has been nothing but positive. We had an orientation process, but there was no hazing at all. Just bonding activities between brothers and bible studies mostly. We did hosted events like step shows, mixers, forums, and the like. We also performed community service. I would not trade it for the world. It really prepared for some of the things that I am called to do in the church.

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Re: Fraternity and Greek Lifestyle
« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2006, 06:05:55 PM »
From the teaching that I have received fraternities, masons, sororities and some organizations that require you to take an oath or cause you to come into agreement with the organization affect your spiritually and whatever demonic forces that are invovlved with that organization.

As a christian our commitment is to be unto GOD and we can not pledge, take an oath or come into covenant with an organization that is not in agreement with the word, especially if we are to be in covenant with GOD. You can not serve two masters.

Weve had several individuals who were apart of various organizatons such as Omega's etc that were delivered from various spirits that they had UNKNOWLINGLY opened themselves up to.


This is not to offend any one who may be a part of any organization just information that I have learned in the recent year.

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Re: Fraternity and Greek Lifestyle
« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2006, 06:08:58 PM »
I think that it also goes into swearing... And like you said uniquepraise, connecting yourself in a type of covenant, to something that you really don't know the DEPTHS of, and connecting to all of it...

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Re: Fraternity and Greek Lifestyle
« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2006, 09:57:05 AM »
When I was in college, there was a point in my life where I did not think life was worth living unless  I  become a member of a certain sorority. Well I did join it and years later God was dealing with me about entry ways of the enemy and brought to my attention a ritual that we did that now that I think back on it was Satanic. I verbally renounced the organization and have not looked back. Many say they are founded on Chrisitian principles but some of the ceremonies would not suggest it.

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Re: Fraternity and Greek Lifestyle
« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2006, 10:09:50 AM »
I agree with you...
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Re: Fraternity and Greek Lifestyle
« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2006, 11:39:33 AM »
The whole Greek organization thing is founded on syncrinism (mixing the holy with the profane).  They use not only Greek Symbols but Egyptian deities and well as at their coming out line orgs twisting certain scriptual passages to fit the organization.  Its pretty dangerous ground in a spiritual sense.  A saved person being in this stuff will get some serious spiritual backlash but I do agree with a lot that is said.
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Re: Fraternity and Greek Lifestyle
« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2006, 03:28:46 PM »
I just wanted to get people's take on the Greek lifestyle that takes place on college campuses. I personally do not agree with it, but I think it would be interesting to see other's take on it. When I say greek I mean like the Delta's, Omega's, AKAs...etc. Do you think this is something that a Christian should get involved in?

I dont really know too much about greek life, but one of my mentors is a Delta, and she says that if she knew then ( when she pledged) what she knew now, she would not have pledged. She said there are a lot of things that go on behind closed doors that could really compromise one's faith.
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Re: Fraternity and Greek Lifestyle
« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2006, 07:04:41 PM »
I dont really know too much about greek life, but one of my mentors is a Delta, and she says that if she knew then ( when she pledged) what she knew now, she would not have pledged. She said there are a lot of things that go on behind closed doors that could really compromise one's faith.

This is so true...I don't if anyone have heard of the "hazing" incident at FAMU and also here at UGA. People in the high rank position of these organizations are not oblivious to what is going on during"hell week".

Personally I don't see how these very "classy" and "pride" organizations can actually do such horrible and cruel things to a human being to be accepted. I think sorors have acceptance issues at the root of their heart, why else would anyone let someone beat them and do crazy things just to be apart of a man-made organization.

I am just stating my personal opinion. If someone can please let me know why else would someone go through all of this abuse for a "club". It is because this is pretty close to gang activity. I have heard the stuff about it is good for careers and stuff like that so if there is anything else please let me know so that I won't be IGNORANT!!!

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Re: Fraternity and Greek Lifestyle
« Reply #19 on: April 21, 2006, 11:36:39 PM »
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