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Trotter

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Why Is It??????
« on: April 13, 2006, 11:03:00 PM »
Why is it that the organ / keyboard section of this site has a place to go to get help as far as songs, tabs etc. and we 9bass Room) have yet to find a way to start our own room up and make it a success like the organ / keyboard room has done...I need your feed back.

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Re: Why Is It??????
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2006, 09:23:06 AM »
It's just that most of the bassists here prefer audio clips, while on the organ/piano forums, they want chords written out. That's all. There are some knowlegable people here, but a lot, even myself are a little reluctant to post tabs. It's easier to just write out the notes, but that doesn't tell you anything about technique.

Stay tuned though, we're going to do another Bass Off pretty soon, so there will be some life in here again!

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Re: Why Is It??????
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2006, 09:43:30 AM »
Yes, the Bass has pretty thin representation on the internet, period. Not only this site.

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Re: Why Is It??????
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2006, 03:53:46 PM »
I personally have not sat down to figure out how to read tab and apply it.  I think because it's rythm based like the drums and tab just shows you the notes.  If you go to the drum section they post a lot of clips too.  I think the we could probably benifit more by posting the chord progressions.

I'm all for trying to do something to help each other out.

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Re: Why Is It??????
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2006, 04:25:40 PM »
I personally have not sat down to figure out how to read tab and apply it.  I think because it's rythm based like the drums and tab just shows you the notes.  If you go to the drum section they post a lot of clips too.  I think the we could probably benifit more by posting the chord progressions.

I'm all for trying to do something to help each other out.

I agree, Chord Progressions would be HUGE.

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Re: Why Is It??????
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2006, 08:00:17 PM »
Well, I would LOVE to see some good teaching on chord progression for the bass... Yes, amen!!!
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Re: Why Is It??????
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2006, 11:55:39 PM »
Seeing as I am a keyboard player some bassists do not see the advantage of posts on this site. When you you see LH thats the bassline. If you understand your chord arpeggios then you will know how to add extra notes to your bass line from the RH posts. If you know what a 9 or 13th chord is  then you will be surprised at how much you known on bass. I understand the concept of playing bass. Now I just need technique and maybe a few other things.

I was telling B3 we all need to do a online shed on yahoo. Like each person playing the same songs. We take turns and then we can pick up from each other or explain it in live chat. Its pretty fun to me.
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Re: Why Is It??????
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2006, 03:06:09 PM »
Seeing as I am a keyboard player some bassists do not see the advantage of posts on this site. When you you see LH thats the bassline. If you understand your chord arpeggios then you will know how to add extra notes to your bass line from the RH posts. If you know what a 9 or 13th chord is  then you will be surprised at how much you known on bass. I understand the concept of playing bass. Now I just need technique and maybe a few other things.

I was telling B3 we all need to do a online shed on yahoo. Like each person playing the same songs. We take turns and then we can pick up from each other or explain it in live chat. Its pretty fun to me.

I often go to the other boards on this site. I have learned a bunch of theory mostly from keyboard/Piano players. They are a good source of info. Perhaps Mysteryman can fully break down how we would use the LH and RH things that they use. Can you give and example. Do we only worry about the LH part. That's how I've been interpreting it. But I think I'm getting what your saying about th RH part, it defines the chord so I can use the notes of the arpeggio to create my line instead of just playing the root. Am I on track? It's a blessing to have a keyboardist on this forum because we can learn so much from you if we figure out what to ask.

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Re: Why Is It??????
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2006, 08:59:38 PM »
I have not fully been through the Bass for Dummies book but I have looked through it. Pfeiffer has some bass groove skeletons in there that you would play over a certain chord.
Im just making this up but lets say you see a chord post like this.
LH/RH
C/EGBbC

When you look at this post in the LH you will see that the root bass note is C. So you know that C is the simple bass note to play with no technique.

When I look at the RH I try to figure out the chord. I know that this is a C7 inverted.

There are differnet ways you can look at this. You can see it all together and pick out the notes to find the chord. Because the LH is the normal bass line you know that is the root of the chord. So I see it as this

CEGBbC

C is the root so now I have to figure out where do the rest of the notes fit in.  This is pretty much set up in root position of the C7 chord you would see in a piano chord book.

C7 = CEGBb

Because I now know that this is a C7 chord I can make a bass groove over it. So I could play
Bass
C,G,Bb,C
when the keyboard player is playing C/EGBbC.

(commas are single notes)
midi-http://media.learngospelmusic.com/albums/lgm/users/mysteryman/bass/Bs15b78.mid

If I was to post this for a keyboard player to do it all he/she would play.
LH/RH
C,G,Bb,C/EGBbC

Another thing you can do is play the broken chord as a bassline arpeggio. You know that the keyboard player is playing a C7 chord. So you can play:
Bass
C,E,G,Bb or C,E,G,Bb,C

If the keyboard play wants to play it all by him/herself they would play:
LH/RH
C,E,G,Bb/EGBbC
or
C,E,G,Bb,C/EGBbC

You can think of it in reverse to. When I play C,G,Bb,C the keyboard player can play a C7 chord.

If you know your modes you know that the mixolydian scale is played over a dominant 7 chord you you could play a C mixolydian mode when the keyboard player plays a C7 chord.
Bass/RH
C,D,E,F,G,A,Bb,C/EGBbC..................(Cmixolydian/C7)

I can post some more later
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Re: Why Is It??????
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2006, 01:49:44 AM »
Thanks Mysteryman you just took a lot of the mystery out of it.. :)
That was a lame joke, but seriously thanks. I got a feeling I'll be asking you a lot more.

So as far as tabs go we really can just check out the piano chords section.

I really rather read notes than tabs, I guess it's because I learned to read first and tabs seemed like a step back. But there are a lot of method books that use tabs and a lot websites do also. So I've been working on them.
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