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Offline D-Nice

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Spanky vid TAMA PROMO
« on: October 06, 2006, 04:40:21 PM »



found this one.

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Re: Spanky vid TAMA PROMO
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2006, 05:05:18 PM »
Well, he's good, but he's not one of my favorites... I'm not impressed...

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Re: Spanky vid TAMA PROMO
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2006, 10:19:12 PM »
I will say this.... That clip did not REALLY do the Bubinga kit justice. That kit sound way more powerful in person. I (and J_Kay) have had the previledge of playing it a couple times and it is an experience in sound.

No offense intended but that kit should be demonstrated by someone with technical chops and independence whom knows how to pull the sound/tone out of a kit (Harvey Mason, Bill Bruford, Kenny Aronoff ). I am glad that he at such a young age has gotten to do a Big League promo though.
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« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2006, 10:41:03 PM »
There goes that pickiness again (No Offense). I gotta be real with you, there's absoultely nothing wrong with that clip. He played a skillful solo, he wasn't repetitive, and  everything was clean and crisp, now come on guys give the man break...

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Re: Spanky vid TAMA PROMO
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2006, 10:46:46 PM »
There goes that pickiness again (No Offense). I gotta be real with you, there's absoultely nothing wrong with that clip. He played a skillful solo, he wasn't repetitive, and  everything was clean and crisp, now come on guys give the man break...
That's not being picky Lil bro. It's an honest opinion. I found that clip quite average, And the drums had no tonal qualities. Dude was all power no finesse. But, he can play. But I was not impressed. I seen him play better


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Re: Spanky vid TAMA PROMO
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2006, 10:53:36 PM »
...well I like the pattern.  I actually like it a lot.  While the pattern displayed may seem new to some of you, this pattern is used a lot by the drummers from Cuba and of course African hand drummers.  With that said, it would've sounded so good with the hihat splashes that I was talking about in that other "Spanky" thread.  Trust me, I know. 

...by the way, I never said the dude couldn't play.  I just suggested for him to use hihat splashes and to go on and open up that hihat.  I've heard this same pattern before and know how full sounding it can be.

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« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2006, 11:07:11 PM »
There goes that pickiness again (No Offense). I gotta be real with you, there's absoultely nothing wrong with that clip. He played a skillful solo, he wasn't repetitive, and  everything was clean and crisp, now come on guys give the man break...

First off no one talked about Spanky's playing....
Second, get out and see/study some more experience drummers. Study them not look to be amazed. Learn proper technique so that you'll know how to recognize and appreciate it when it's there and know when it's not.
Spanky did his thing on the clip to the level he could do it but he is not quite there yet on some of the things he attempted. He is not solid as he would like to be on the polys and independence.  As of yet he does not know how to pull the sound out of a kit. When you can do that you can pull the sound out of an untuned kit... there is a way and a place that you strike the drum. Study Practice the article in Modern Drummer  - January 2006. Also Dave Weckle - How t o Develop Your Sound, Also reread the previously posted article from Jojo Mayer's site when he tells of his conversation with Dennis on the subject....

...Study instead of jumping up all emotional. Before before you can make a point you need to have your facts straight. I study what's right in drumset/drumming (in this case) so that I can teach what is right and proper... that is my gift and one of my callings (teaching). Check your self.
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Re: Spanky vid TAMA PROMO
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2006, 11:07:20 PM »
WE ALL NEED CRITQUE IN HOW WE DO THINGS, THAT WILL ALWAYS GIVE YOU SOMETHING TO STRIVE FOR.

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Re: Spanky vid TAMA PROMO
« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2006, 11:14:19 PM »
HEY SABE & J FUNKY, THIS ONE SHOULD GET LOCKED, THINGS COULD GET UGLY.

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Re: Spanky vid TAMA PROMO
« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2006, 11:25:10 PM »
HEY SABE & J FUNKY, THIS ONE SHOULD GET LOCKED, THINGS COULD GET UGLY.

Everybody can state their opinions in respectful ways. You cannot just let your emotions jump out and speak with no facts.

Now people going over the top and disrespecting others will be deleted. Simple. This is a good thread for folks to enjoy and learn from and that is what is going to happen.
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Re: Spanky vid TAMA PROMO
« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2006, 11:34:53 PM »
This is a healthy thread. Don't lock it...

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Re: Spanky vid TAMA PROMO
« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2006, 11:35:44 PM »
There goes that pickiness again (No Offense). I gotta be real with you, there's absoultely nothing wrong with that clip. He played a skillful solo, he wasn't repetitive, and  everything was clean and crisp, now come on guys give the man break...

In this day and age, it will be rare to find where everyone likes the same things. It's just human nature. What appeals to you will not always appeal to me. They are speaking for themselves and no one can take that from them. Everyone is going to have their opinion, yet you might not agree. The good thing about it is that you really dont have to. You know your personal tastes and dislikes and that is really all that matters.

To get back on the topic, Spank is my boy and he did his thing. This clip gets on the Pod.

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« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2006, 12:14:17 AM »
First off no one talked about Spanky's playing....
Second, get out and see/study some more experience drummers. Study them not look to be amazed. Learn proper technique so that you'll know how to recognize and appreciate it when it's there and know when it's not.
Spanky did his thing on the clip to the level he could do it but he is not quite there yet on some of the things he attempted. He is not solid as he would like to be on the polys and independence.  As of yet he does not know how to pull the sound out of a kit. When you can do that you can pull the sound out of an untuned kit... there is a way and a place that you strike the drum. Study Practice the article in Modern Drummer  - January 2006. Also Dave Weckle - How t o Develop Your Sound, Also reread the previously posted article from Jojo Mayer's site when he tells of his conversation with Dennis on the subject....

...Study instead of jumping up all emotional. Before before you can make a point you need to have your facts straight. I study what's right in drumset/drumming (in this case) so that I can teach what is right and proper... that is my gift and one of my callings (teaching). Check your self.


Hold up Sabe, no one is getting emotional, but I dont understand how you can take a clip from one of the top gospel drummers in the industry and rip it up and take out all of the imperfections. Trust me I know tons of drummers who cant come close to pulling off something tasteful like that. But check it out I respect your opinion so I'm not going to bash you anymore about the situation, I'm simply going to ask you to give everyone an example of what exactly you're talking about. It just seeems like every drummer from Dave Weckl, to Denis Chambers to Spanky to Yanh Hunter whoever....drummers that I've seen videos of they hit the drums the exact same way and get the exact same sound out of the drum, depending on how hard they hit it, and how it's tuned. But I dont know maybe my musical ears arent big enough yet... 

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« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2006, 01:02:42 AM »
HERE WE GO AGAIN....LOL

You know what's repetitive??? When folks get in their feelings about somebody else's opinion/comment. Hmmmm The last time I checked God gave each of us a brain to use and operate with. Check this out, we all see things differently...WOW what a concept...you mean I can/will hear/see something different than the next man??...Uh Yeah!!!!

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Re: Spanky vid TAMA PROMO
« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2006, 01:23:09 AM »
I love Spank, but there's no way he hit's the drums like Dennis Chambers or Omar Hakim or any other jazz great, watching a video & listening to the tone are two different things

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Re: Spanky vid TAMA PROMO
« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2006, 10:40:54 AM »
Spanky has a great talent.  I do believe that we agree on that.  His upside is rediculous.  He is one of the most talented drummers around.  First thing I have heard and seen Spanky play better than the clip we just seen.  In the same sense the clip was nice.  Just like all of us, he is still developing as a drummer.  Besides a shed and a performance this is the first time I have seen Spanky just play besides the clip at NAMM and Nissan Stewart's clinic clip in Cali.  There is no question Spanky has the skill and talent to do what some of us only dream abou on the set.  I believe that Spanky is learning the art of doing a drum solo.  Drum soloing is a total different art/aspect of playing.  There is no question that Spanky is a great musician when it comes to playing with artists and getting a feel of a band his ability and talent is unquestioned.  He is beginning and just starting working on drum solos, you noticed I did not say sheds. In sheds your grooving, practicing some rudiments and other aspect of drumming, and feeding off of other energy all while learning new chops, etc.  In a solo our by yourself drawing from your own creativity where the drumset is the only instrument to draw from.  I am not going to get into a definition of what a drum solo is.  I will leave that to Sabe to give us an appropriate definition of a drum solo.   When playing a drum solo you must as Sabe and others have mentioned, pull out the overtones and specifics of each cymbal, tom-tom, hi-hat, and other instruments of the set.  Spanky has that ability.  I believe the more we see Spanky play by himself and the more he sees other drummers solos he will definitely develop the art of playing a solo.  I believe and know what others pointed out about Spanky's playing is not a knock of him as a artist, but a opinion of what he needs to work on to develop a solo.  There will be a time as Spanky develops his solo where he is just going to amaze everyone as I am sure everyone know on LGM.  Spanky is a beast, period.  We must remember as some of us pointed out that he is developing and still learning about drum solos.  I can see what Jfunky and Sabe was talking about. Spanky is creative on the set playing for artists.  As and when he focuses those talents on just drum solos and contniues to learn and grow he is going to be rediculous on drum solos too.  I believe it is fun watching him develop from a gospel drumer to a solo drummer.  We need to start a thread on drum solos.  What do yall think, Stay Blessed, Nate J.

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Re: Spanky vid TAMA PROMO
« Reply #16 on: October 07, 2006, 10:55:20 AM »
not tryin to start any other commotions,but what do u think what god thinkin about right now? :-\
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« Reply #17 on: October 07, 2006, 11:16:32 AM »
not tryin to start any other commotions,but what do u think what god thinkin about right now? :-\

...I'm sure he has better things to think about. ;)

...I'm definetly going to stay out of the Spanky Threads.  Boy, I'll tell ya.... :-X :-X :-X

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« Reply #18 on: October 07, 2006, 11:36:15 AM »
not tryin to start any other commotions,but what do u think what god thinkin about right now? :-\
What are you thinkin' about  ?/? I don't get it. People don't see things the same way all the time, and nor should we. There is too much co-signing going on around here nowadays. I have my good days and my bad days when I'm playing with my band. And 99% of the time , I'm the only one who can tell and I will be humble enough to admitt where I'm lackin' and try to do better next time. When my mentor is around, he never tell me that your were slammin' the whole set lil bro, he will tear me apart only to build me back up again. He'll call back the next day and say I got a $400 gig for you ,I need you to fill in for me. That's because he believes in me, even if I may have sucked for a slight minute on a 1 or 2 hour set... I believe that Spanky is on his way and will continue to grow and get better. This clip was IMHO weak. I've seen him do so much better. For instance the Nisan Clinic clip. He was in rare form in that clinic. He showed up for sure... God is chillin' and thinking of things we can't even comprehend. He's not worried about a Spanky clip. He already predistandant Spanky's path a knows he will become a Great percussionist....

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Re: Spanky vid TAMA PROMO
« Reply #19 on: October 07, 2006, 11:42:16 AM »
I really dont think its as serious as everyone is making it out to be. Just ease up. Everyone's opinions is well taken and respected (at least by me). That doesnt mean its what I have to abide by. That's life. The only way we could be all on one accord is if we were all on that same level. Well, we're not. Chill out, enjoy the vid for what it's worth to YOU.

We do realize that no one actually was "dissing" Spanky's playing, right????
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