Spanky vid TAMA PROMO

[BEATBOXERZ]

I really dont think its as serious as everyone is making it out to be. Just ease up. Everyone's opinions is well taken and respected (at least by me). That doesnt mean its what I have to abide by. That's life. The only way we could be all on one accord is if we were all on that same level. Well, we're not. Chill out, enjoy the vid for what it's worth to YOU.

We do realize that no one actually was "dissing" Spanky's playing, right????

Agreed...

[theLearner]

What do you guys think of Tama? Any of yall rate tama as a drum company?
the next time i get a kit (which is about 2-3 years from now) I wanna get a professional kit.
DW is too expensive (tama is expensive too) but I like the way Tama's stuff is made.....
Yamaha makes great professional kits too and they are cheaper......

what do yall think?

[porkpiepoppa]

  imagine being at the clinic in cali 5 feet away from him seeing that madness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! whoa imm a blessed man!! then 2 feet away from mike bereal lol i needa get the WHOLE clip up hahaha but yeah i see what you guys are saying about him but MY opinion is ive heard the best and i know his style i know what you guys are saying but i respect the clip for what it was...spanky murkin the set as usual

[SabianKnight]

What do you guys think of Tama? Any of yall rate tama as a drum company?
the next time i get a kit (which is about 2-3 years from now) I wanna get a professional kit.
DW is too expensive (tama is expensive too) but I like the way Tama's stuff is made.....
Yamaha makes great professional kits too and they are cheaper......

what do yall think?

Tama is not my favorite by far but  if they fix the errors with last years  and this years bass drum tom mount they are a decent purchase in the StarClassic line. I love the Birch when headed/tuned properly and the Bubinga is money in the bank. Tama has a weird little twang after-sound (taste) to them. Anyone else notice that (BBD, Beatboxerz,Soulnomad, anyone , everyone...? They definitley have there own sound.

Yamaha and Pearl both off better features in my opinion. When you look at what most Backline companies use Tama is not in the running.
Careful... Yamaha's aren't cheap-er but have a better price tag,  . ...(slight bias there as well as don't want anyone's lawyers to get antsy).

In two years when you get your kit the game will have changed again. I mean GMS is dropping and Ash kit right now and Ddrum a Walnut kit and a Bubinga kit. NAMM 2007 is just around the corner and Pearl is over due for a bomb. DW will be releasing their Peter Erskine kit. Odery (out of Brazil) will probably have secured U.S. distribution. Covenant Drum Company will have a full blown manufacturing facility popping out kits for chuuch folk and all will be gravy.

[theLearner]

you right.....thanks for that reply...
ddrum is coming out wit a bubinga and a walnut kit?? are they up there wit yamaha and pearl?

[BEATBOXERZ]

Tama is not my favorite by far but  if they fix the errors with last years  and this years bass drum tom mount they are a decent purchase in the StarClassic line. I love the Birch when headed/tuned properly and the Bubinga is money in the bank. Tama has a weird little twang after-sound (taste) to them. Anyone else notice that (BBD, Beatboxerz,Soulnomad, anyone , everyone...? They definitley have there own sound.

Yamaha and Pearl both off better features in my opinion. When you look at what most Backline companies use Tama is not in the running.
Careful... Yamaha's aren't cheap-er but have a better price tag,  . ...(slight bias there as well as don't want anyone's lawyers to get antsy).

In two years when you get your kit the game will have changed again. I mean GMS is dropping and Ash kit right now and Ddrum a Walnut kit and a Bubinga kit. NAMM 2007 is just around the corner and Pearl is over due for a bomb. DW will be releasing their Peter Erskine kit. Odery (out of Brazil) will probably have secured U.S. distribution. Covenant Drum Company will have a full blown manufacturing facility popping out kits for chuuch folk and all will be gravy.

Yep, they have a strange tone to them. My first kit was a 1986 Swingstar  The Stewart Copland model, when they were made out of mohogony. I out grew Tama years ago. I still have my Tama, my son has it.

[SabianKnight]

you right.....thanks for that reply...
ddrum is coming out wit a bubinga and a walnut kit?? are they up there wit yamaha and pearl?

Yep... They just showed them at Summer NAMM. They will sell for around $2,000. Which is $500-900 cheaper thn the Tama Bubinga.

[MaestroDivine]

After watching this clip, I come to the conclusion that I always do about him...

The dude does have a gift, but at age 24/25 ... I'm not sure as to how serious he is in developing technique, and become theoretically sound. That may sound like a ridiculous statement .... but, I know quite a few musicians are who theoretically & technically sound, and they're in their teens.

Spanky is not a MAJOR drummer right now. Perhaps in the gospel industry ... but, frankly, how many well-known gospel musicians you know are qualified to sit down and demonstrate technique on the level of say ..... Dave Weckl? The only person that really comes to mind is Chris Coleman.

You can't forsake the ARDUOUS process of learning theory and proper technique, and expect to not have a very limited vocabulary.

Having a gift is only the beginning.

[Cherri]

After watching this clip, I come to the conclusion that I always do about him...

The dude does have a gift, but at age 24/25 ... I'm not sure as to how serious he is in developing technique, and become theoretically sound. That may sound like a ridiculous statement .... but, I know quite a few musicians are who theoretically & technically sound, and they're in their teens.

Spanky is not a MAJOR drummer right now. Perhaps in the gospel industry ... but, frankly, how many well-known gospel musicians you know are qualified to sit down and demonstrate technique on the level of say ..... Dave Weckl? The only person that really comes to mind is Chris Coleman.

You can't forsake the ARDUOUS process of learning theory and proper technique, and expect to not have a very limited vocabulary.

Having a gift is only the beginning.

A. B. I. Alert deadlier than A.I.D.S. …

[drummercat777]

honestly, i am not impressed with most gospel drummers i see. i beleive that they focus more on chops and sheds and crap like that. when was the last time you having a bunch of chops would get you the gig? and then, because they are fcused so much on the chops aspect, they sacrifice taste and technique. i have never been impressed by the chops slinger. guys like steve gadd and steve jordan are both monster drummers that have 20 plus years of experience each, but are masters of groove. i just think we put tooooooooo much thought into mindless things like how fast you are or what new lick you have. what good are grooves if there is no space to put it in? for example, i have heard many clips of spanky and if i was his boss, i would fire him quick. he constantly overplays almost to the point of just flat out doing a solo. why are we  impressed by chops instead of guys like bernard purdie, al jackson jr., abe laboriel jr., curt bisquera, omar hakim, josh freese, steve jordan, derico watson, steve gadd, greg bisonette, shawn pelton, herman matthews, teddy campbell, max weinberg...... all these guys are monsters, yet play for the groove. how many of yall say that it is all about the groove, yet try to go out and learn all these licks or try to fit the most 32nd notes into a simple groove to make it sound more "church" or hip hip.

instead, our minds are foolishly focusing on drummers like aaron spears, lil john, "daddy" dave, nisan stewart, geral heyward. i really do think that hip-hop drumming is a joke. even though these guys all can play with clicks and stuff, we all really know why they are where they are. it is because somebody saw them and liked their chops.... and we all are so excited to see what new chops are gonna be done on any dvd we get. never once have i hear someone say,"hey go buy this because his groove was solid". it is always,"hey go buy this dvd, he was throwing out these crazy chops."

i think we all need to do some soul searching in whether we are really trying to better ourselves as musicians or as soloists.....

[Keys410]

Dude is nice(Coming from the Keyboard point of view). You guys are worst than Simon on American Idol...but I love it lol. Is technique really that big of a thing? Just asking...Once again I am not a drummer

[drummercat777]

for a true musician, not just a drummer, technique is everything. that is a big falacy about drummers, that we dont care oabout technique. on the contrary, all drummers that are wanting to constantly better themselves are always looking for flaws in their playing styles...

[Keys410]

for a true musician, not just a drummer, technique is everything. that is a big falacy about drummers, that we dont care oabout technique. on the contrary, all drummers that are wanting to constantly better themselves are always looking for flaws in their playing styles...

Cool... I asked cause I mean to the naked eye he is tight with no flaws. Here is my next question.... What is he doing wrong and how can it be corrected?

[bigblackdrummer]

I respect him as a player but really it just goes to show that you dont have to be the best to make it you just have to be in Gods will for your life!

[MaestroDivine]

honestyl, i am not onpressed with most gospel drummers i see. i beleive that they focus more on chops and sheds and crap like that. when was the last time you having a bunch of chops would get you the gig? and then, because they are fcused so much on the chops aspect, they sacrifice taste and technique. i have never been impressed by the chops slinger. guys like steve gadd and steve jordan are both monster drummers that have 20 plus years of experience each, but are masters of groove. i just think we put tooooooooo much thought into mindless things like how fast you are or what new lick you have. what good are grooves if there is no space to put it in? for example, i have heard many clips of spanky and if i was his boss, i would fire him quick. he constantyl overplays almost to the point of just flat out doing a solo. why are we  impressed by chops instead of guys like bernard purdie, al jackson jr., abe laboriel jr., curt bisquera, omar hakim, josh freese, steve jordan, derico watson, steve gadd, greg bisonette, shawn pelton, herman matthews, teddy campbell, max weinberg...... all these guys are monsters, yet play for the groove. how many of yall say that it is all about the groove, yet try to go out and learn all these licks or try to fit the most 32nd notes into a simple groove to make it sound more "church" or hip hip.

instead, our minds are foolishly focusing on drummers like aaron spears, lil john, "daddy" dave, nisan stewart, geral heyward. i really do think that hip-hop drumming is a joke. even though these guys all can play with clicks and stuff, we all really know why they are where they are. it is because somebody saw them and liked their chops.... and we all are so excited to see what new chops are gonna be done on any dvd we get. never once have i hear someone say,"hey go buy this because his groove was solid". it is always,"hey go buy this dvd, he was throwing out these crazy chops."

i think we all need to do some soul searching in whether we are really trying to better ourselves as musicians or as soloists.....

You know, I hate to single out other drummers ... but, I don't think you can put Chris Dave, and Lil' John in that category. Chris Dave has recorded with many different type's of artist's. He is also very knowledgeable, and very technically sound. Chris Dave does play hip hop, but he'll tell you he doesn't want to be pigeon-holed, which is why he learns, and has learned, many different styles. He's played with Kenny Garrett, Billy Preston, Dolly Parton(I pointed that out to show how diverse his resume is), Meshell Ndegeocello, Kim Burrell, Jon Secada, and the list goes on. He's studied with Jeff 'Tain' Watts, and Dennis Chambers has given him his props.

Not a Chris Dave groupie, but you can't put him in the same category with a lot of the guys you've mentioned.

[MaestroDivine]

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=994036315

I don't think you can seriously consider these joke musiciains. Chris Dave is on drums.

[Keys410]

I respect him as a player but really it just goes to show that you dont have to be the best to make it you just have to be in Gods will for your life!

Agreed Doc!!! My thing is if you are going to be an instructer then all that stuff you guys speak about is important to have, but an artist is just looking for someone with a tight pocket that can hold them down. Be blessed

[MaestroDivine]

Agreed Doc!!! My thing is if you are going to be an instructer then all that stuff you guys speak about is important to have, but an artist is just looking for someone with a tight pocket that can hold them down. Be blessed

Wow.

[Keys410]

Wow.

Divine thats just my point of view(I play keys). When I watch I think it sounds good, I dont notice that he hit the wrong cymbal or his chops are the same as every other drummer.

[Zelevo]

I played on one of DDrum top of the range Drums at drummer live 2006
and i must i Was Seriously IMPRESSED .
The warmth amd the depth of the toms was just awesome  Mos def.. I
will look at DDrums when upgrading in a year or two. They might not be a big name at the moment
but i see great things for this company.