Hmmm....man these topics again?
Wow....well here it is people, and if anyone gets offended i do apologize.
But I gatta speak the truth!
(im gonna behave Mama Sista T)
Now sometimes we take things and issues that even aint an issue to begin with, also we need to really study this verse of scripture before we talk, and not take things out of the context in which it was written. We always wanna shape the word to fit our own agendas and ideas, to make ok for us to do certain things for our own pleasure and comfort, rather than the word shaping us.
Now the verse Mim refered to is Romans 16:7 and we know that Junia's gender is in question from all the commentators mentioned, as far as the verse is concern, the gender really dont matter. Why? when studying the Bible we need to adhere to some grammatical rules that apply here, the verse states:
Rom.16.7 KJV Salute Andronicus and Junia (feminine name), my kinsmen, and my fellow prisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.
Any time you see in the bible where two or more person is mentioned in the subject such as the case here and each one seperated by a comma, bear in mind that the statement that follows applies to all of them except when one is singled out. So, Paul only states that Andronicus, JUNIA, his kinsmen, and his fellow prisoners are all NOTED AMONG THE APOSTLES, not ARE APOSTLES, and were followers of Christ before him....That is it!!! Now it was different when Jesus after He rose sent Word for the Apostles and Peter...see the difference. Paul only noted them amomg the apostles as they were committed followers of Jesus , before him.
Too many times we see these post taking the wrong turn for lack of study, so the Gender of Junia really dont matter.
Let me take this issue somewhere some people dont wanna go, lets go a bit deeper......
Two areas:
number 1
Look at Ephesians 5.. from verse 22, where it explains the role of the Wife and the Husband, the Husband is the head of which is suppose to Love the wife as Christ loves the church and gave Himself for her, and the Wife inturn submits, now some women think this is a back seat but its not, it a simple structure in which Gods sees, and thats ORDER, thats is all, not that women are inferior, and not that they are not EQUAL because we all are, but at the end of these passages we see the phrase as unto the LORD, thats is the key, if a husband aint being the leader the bible intended, then we as men cant expect a woman to submit to that, but if we are then Gods expects submission. And it aint the Husband saying "do this because I say so" type of thing but its the Husband waiting on God and the both of them so intune with Him that when He make a decision for the family she eagerly submits to it and support it. And Godd sees the Church the same way why? Brings me to ..............
Now area 2
Look at 1 Tim. chpt 3 verse 1-2, 5.
Where gender plays a role. why?
It says if a MAN desires the office of a bishop he desireth a good thing then a phrase in verse 2 says he must be the HUSBAND OF ONE WIFE! That right there is deep! Because we see here where gender plays a role because of the statement we can clearly see its a MAN. Also it references in verse 5 to say if a man cant rule his home how can he take care of the church of God? Hmmmmmm........ this is also the tune further down for deacons.
So what are we bickering about? Can God use women? Sure.
Tabitha, Dorcas, Deborah the Judge, Esther, Ruth, Naomi, MARY...the list goes on and on.
A man being head of the family is the order God has set, and this is based upon how the order is to be set in the church, Not to degrade women as we are all equal (rom. 2:11) in any way but just to set Order, Like it is in the Godhead.
Thats all it is, nothing to offend women or anyone it is just the role and function God has placed upon us when we are apart of His Kingdom, Men we are to die for our wife as Christ did for the church, we are the spiritual head, we are the providers, protecters, keepers of the gate. Once we are in tune with God that woman will sence that and if she is intune submitting aint gonna be a problem, well.....at least it shouldn't.
This is why the enemy targets our young boys, why we ar targeted as men, because if we as men can take our rigthtful palce in our homes and church he knows we can wreak havoc on his plans, and build God 's Kingdom by leaps and bounds.
I'm suprise nobody wanna look at these verses of scripture when this issue comes up, let alone see it as merely the order God set not some gender war on im superior, or someone is inferior.
Now...deeper....and this is the nail to close it shut....
Anyone ever ask themselves why Jesus came as a man?......
Apart from the obvious reason He came, this also validates what i said about ORDER, not to make men superior and women inferior but to give testiment to the setting of the order for how God says things are suppose to be structured.
See...scritpture doesnt contradict scripture, we contradict scripture ourselves....
Warch how this ties in......
God established the Order back in Genesis when He made Adam and Eve.
Notice Eve came out of Adams Rib, signifying equality and support for the husband (a Help Meet)
Notice Adam was the one dealt with first after the Sin, though he wasn't the initial faulter, but God saw him as the Head.Hmmmm.
Notice How Paul in Ephesians, lay out this same order beggining in chapt 5:22.
Notice how this is also tied to the Passage in 1 Tim. chpt 3, where it talks abot the office of a bishop and deacon.
Now I encourage anyone to study these passages and let GOD REVEAL to you what the truth is, and you'll see the same things.
I can go further
BUT
WOMEWN ARE NOT INFERIOR, BUT GOD HAS SET AN ORDER FOR CHURCH AS IS FOR THE FAMILY...POIT BLANK.
