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Offline MrSparrow

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Musician's Information...
« on: February 10, 2007, 11:07:12 AM »
Ok,

If you are a musician or are looking to play at a church, there are some things that you should know when it comes to setting up your contract.

1. Find out if your church is exempt from paying social security, fica, medicare etc...

If your church doesn't pay social security, fica, medicare etc... then you will have to take a percentage of your earnings and send it in yourself to the IRS or pay it out at the same time (or set up payments) because you will end up owing the IRS. I know because that's the situation I'm in right now. If I would have known earlier

2. Find out if your church is going to pay you as an employee with a w2 or as an independant contracter with a 1099.

The difference is if your church pays you as an employee then they will have to pay I think the number is 6.75% of you income for tax purposes. You as the employee will have to pay 6.75% also. If you have a church that will not pay their 6.75% then you will have to pay the 13% of your income yourself. It's legal for churches to use their tax exempt status and not pay social security benifits for you. It is pretty common practice. The only way you can offset that penalty money wise is to tell your church to withhold 15%-20% of your check as the year progresses.

3. If you are a clergy member, there is a way that your church can pay you and it be tax exempt. The way to do that is to have them pay you a housing allowance instead of a salary. I'm working with my church now to change not how much they pay me but  the way they pay me.

4. If you play for concerts/revivals/workshops etc... on the side for churches, make sure those churches give you a 1099 form because if they report to the IRS that they paid you $500 for something and you don't report it, YOU can get caught up for not reporting income. Believe me, the IRS is cracking down on people not reporting their income and it would be in your best interests to not lie when you file your taxes.

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Re: Musician's Information...
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2007, 07:46:33 AM »
I just talked with my H and R Block representative yesterday and he shared some more information with me concerning my income from my church.

He told me that my church should have taken out Social Security and Medicare and paid their employer's share (7.65%) to SS and Medicare.

My church was/is under the assumption that because they are tax exempt that they have the "OPTION" of taking SS out or not taking it out.

That is NOT the case. If your church gives you a 1099 then they don't have to pay SS tax or Medicare tax. You have to pay it all yourself. If your church gives you a W2 and does not pay their employer's share and does not withhold SS and Medicare then you need to talk with them about that. If you want to opt out of SS then you have to fill out a 4029 form and have it approved by the IRS.

PLEASE DO NOT TAKE MY WORD ON THIS... READ IT FOR YOURSELF

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f4029.pdf

Look at page 2 and you will see the IRS's specific instructions to employers...

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Re: Musician's Information...
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2007, 09:00:56 AM »
Thank you for this great info. ;)  Bishop Cole
"Stay in God Always"  - Bishop Lamar Cole
"It's not about the Music, it's about the Ministry"

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Re: Musician's Information...
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2007, 09:44:17 AM »
You know I gotz to look out for my people...

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Re: Musician's Information...
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2007, 02:11:51 PM »
Thank you for this great info. ;)  Bishop Cole

I echo the thanks for this info.  Musicians making substantial monetary compensation should really check out what Mr Sparrow is saying.   I myself have also been on both ends.   I got caught up in IRS oweing because I just didn't know - so you might say I learned the hard way.   As the old saying goes "better to be safe than sorry". 

I also think that my brothers in christ in the music ministry should pass this info on to non LGM members also.   Knowledge is power.   Thanks again Mr Sparrow for sharing.

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Re: Musician's Information...
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2007, 01:30:38 PM »
No problem...

I hope everyone takes heed...


The only other concern is whether or not a church should give you a 1099 as an independant contractor (you pay all of your taxes) or as an employee where the church pays their employers share and you pay your employee share...


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Re: Musician's Information...
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2007, 08:26:02 AM »
thanx for the info.great post
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Re: Musician's Information...
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2007, 09:49:02 AM »
good look sparrow
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