"Sheddin" Is it PLEASING GOD!!!!

[SabianKnight]

Hey LGM family,

Listen up cats, I did not say what I said to offend anyone.  I just wanted to know what the purpose of a shed was?   IF you actually did learn anything or is it a lets trade licks and see how fast one can play.  So if I offended anyone, I apologize.  Like I said, I respect those who want to improve their skills at these shed, but IMHO there's nothing like studying with a professional (i.e. Steve Smith, Pat Petrillo, etc.) and getting insights from guys who really study their craft and are into different styles of music.  That's all I'm saying, but again, I apologize to anyone who was offended.  Take care and God Bless.

Carlito

I think your earlier comments wer FINE AND ON POINT. The truth is folks would rather go to sheds than go to LESSONS and that is baffling. Seems that folks don't want to be PROVEN by standards but approved by men's opinions. Even if you cannot afford to take lessons do you invest in instructional material son the craft of music and the craft of drumming? Are we being good stewards?

I can personally admit to having fallen off in my practice discipline since about mid-year. Something I am rectifying.

[MENDOZA]

Oh boy,

I'm not a moderator here or anything like that, but I think this might get out of control.  What I just is this let's just respect each others opinions and thoughts.  I've learned alot from this site.  There's a lot of good stuff happening here and a lot of ignorance, but we must learn to listen and learn.  It's not easy to hold our tongues back, but let's be careful with our words.  Let's not let this get into a false prophets situation.  However, with reading all these responses I feel that I have learned alot of things just from this one topic.  I guess the conclusion I got from this shed's topic is that sheds can be both a spiritual thing and an educational thing too.  Nonetheless it depends on who's leading it and what are motives are. Take care and God Bless everyone.

Carlito

[ManOnAMission]

  I guess the conclusion I got from this shed's topic is that sheds can be both a spiritual thing and an educational thing too.

Perhaps, but I'm just a little skeptical....

[EricT]

"Beware of false prophets"...

Dude, I've been saying this for eons .... and now you're droppin' this like it's some mighty revelation from on high. As much as I think of myself, I fail to believe that I could come up with anything remotely as profound as God.

Brother you may have been saying that for a while and I'm not disputing that...Look at my posts it's not like I've been here for that long maybe 1 and a half years...but because of my schedule I don't have the luxury to sit and go through all the threads, like many of you do....now if you've ben sharing that then that's a great thing...we need more soldiers like yourself. I think it's all about where you are musically and spiritually...I wasn't saying that sheddin was a bad thing.I think it should be called SHARING IMO ..I just think that showing each other how great you are just isn't the move for me...Now I like the way Gospel Chops does it...they play it then show you how to do it which is instructional....But I haven't seen a shed tape yet that shows cats actually teaching and encouraging other cats in their midst...that's all.....and I think their's more knowledge there that can be shared....

[EricT]

I think your earlier comments wer FINE AND ON POINT. The truth is folks would rather go to sheds than go to LESSONS and that is baffling. Seems that folks don't want to be PROVEN by standards but approved by men's opinions. Even if you cannot afford to take lessons do you invest in instructional material son the craft of music and the craft of drumming? Are we being good stewards?

I can personally admit to having fallen off in my practice discipline since about mid-year. Something I am rectifying.

Very well put Sabian...i'm not saying I'm the best cat here cause hearing many of you I'm not, but I'm comfortable with where I am but not satisfied either. But my point is that "lets all remember and not forget who we're playing for"...that's all

[bigblackdrummer]

Ok, Sitting at my desk and I was reading a thread that talked about shedding and I was a little perplexed at what I was reading and GOD told me to tell you this.....

When you Shed, are you doing it to please ME or are you doing it to please yourself?....Remember My first commandment. I am a jealous GOD and you can't have no other GOD's before me...So is the god of shedding getting so big that you forget the one who gave you the mind and the power to use your limbs in such a coordinated way that I get no Glory?.....What happened to me?...Don't I get ALLthe credit for the 3 over 2's or the playing in space or the abliility to play for hours. Are you Glorifying yourself.Or are you glorifying ME!!!! Just as I took the Kingdom from Pharoh from him, Don't you know that I can tear your musical kingdom up too, if I don't get glory from your playing. See you can't come to ME, then play for the devil. There is too much at stake for that to occur. To many souls are weighing in the balance. Some of your souls are in the balance as well. Will you play for ME or will you play for you. Remember I'M the one that put rhythm in your body. I'M the one that allows you to walk in such a rhythmic way, that no one else on this earth can walk like you.

Glorify ME!!!!...Do you know or pay attention to the words to the songs you play like .."I will bless the Lord...Bless the Lord at ALL times"....are you blessing ME or Are you trying to bless yourselves? You Levites, you better watch who you play for cause remember it's me that gave you that gift and just as easy as I gave it to you, .I can take it away.

Remember my word says In Proverb 3:6 "In ALL thy way acknowledge HIM (ME) and  he (I) shall direct your path". And that also means when you play.

You don't have to respond by writing, I'LL get my answer from your heart.

Thats a load of GARBAGE! God gave that to you!? I think NOT! Im sure God has better things to deal with then some punk kids shreding! Theres nothing wrong with shredding it helps you learn and keeps you on top of your game, and if youre not good enough it makes you want to improve!
Why is it people like you always have to take a crap on something the Christian young people that is positive! Yet have the nerve to complain when they turn to gangs, drugs and whatever! They are still in Church having FUN! Okokok guys pray and thank God for your gift and talents even hold a worship service before you shred to shut people like this up!

[bigblackdrummer]

Hey LGM family,

This is not offend anyone, this is just an honest question.  What is the purpose of shedding?  I know it's a form of practicing and being able to learn "licks" from people or outdoing someone else.  However do you really learn anything?  Does anyone take the time to show you exactly what he/she does?  Does anyone break down the mechanics or do people actually explain the rhythmical concepts, metric modulations, or melodies that they hear in their heads while playing their instruments? 

From what I've seen on all these youtube sheds, it just looks like a bunch of guys playing the same fast 16th note linear patterns and to me after about 10 minutes of watching this I had enough.  Why do I keep watching them?  Because some guys are actually do some pretty cool things and I because I have faith that I will finally see someone play something a little different in a shed. I personally see it like this I'd rather take lessons from legitimate cats and learn more on how to be a musician than someone who can play 100000 notes in a measure.   However, LGM family, this is such a great site and this is just a question that I wanted to ask.  Take care and God Bless.

Carlito



www.myspace.com/juancarlosmendoza

To answer your question; YES I learn lots! Ive been playing for 23-24 years and some of these guys are doing things I dont do (now I didnt say cant do, cause ill mess all ya all up and you all know it!!!! S.I.M.P., JK, SK, ER), so I save them and watch and learn! I really cant understand how you cant see a chance to learn off shred videos.

[TheVeteran]

Thats a load of GARBAGE! God gave that to you!? I think NOT! Im sure God has better things to deal with then some punk kids shreding! Theres nothing wrong with shredding it helps you learn and keeps you on top of your game, and if youre not good enough it makes you want to improve!
Why is it people like you always have to take a crap on something the Christian young people that is positive! Yet have the nerve to complain when they turn to gangs, drugs and whatever! They are still in Church having FUN! Okokok guys pray and thank God for your gift and talents even hold a worship service before you shred to shut people like this up!

[bigblackdrummer]

Mannnnnn.....I go to sheds..so I can blaze every drummer in the room...that's right...what time sig you want?... huh 9/4?, 7/13...5/8?...name it and I'm on it... Don't dare sit at the set and think you can out chop me...boy you know who I am..they call me LumberJack Slim...cause of all the wood I chop... who want it next.....LOL


P.S... Uh Yes I'm joking...don't get it twisted and get all super Christian on me...

Whatever guy Ill mess you up! They call me fat stick, cause when I come down on you I come down hard! Or was that just fat cause if  I mash you toe its broken....Hmmmm anyway its one of those!

[bigblackdrummer]

the funny thing I get is that maybe some of you who read this, really don't know the voice of GOD when you hear it.....you only have a problem woth it because a fellow drummer shared it woth you..But Remeber, it was no different from what you hear from your pastor. But you listen and believe him...there's no difference other than familiarity..   

SUPER CHRISTIAN??? Brah you should one day hope to be a SUPER CHRISTIAN. Then maybe you'll be living with Christ then sheddin with Satin ....then someone else said "Don't get ALL DEEP" if sharing the word of GOD is Deep to you. And allowing him to use me to remind you of who you're playing for, then maybe it has served it's purpose. Soas opposed to aggreeing with the word that was shared, you discredited it....  If we as musicians would do by GOD what is expected of us, then he would have not used me to share it with you.

WOW ... i can tell we've got alot of growing up to do...and No I don't carry a 10 Pound Bible around with me nor do I quote scripture everytime I open my mouth, but I make myself available to him at any time he needs me....We are all saved by his grace and mercy. I make mistakes as well, many of them...but I do believe that shedding can be used if one is learning something to be used to Glorify him...as opposed to ourselves.   

Hahahahahahahaha Kickstartamahonda, kickstartamyhonda!  Dude you dont need to be so ignorant! Maybe God did tell you to say something...But it might not be a message for everyone but maybe one person who is struggling, who knows.

[TheVeteran]

Whatever guy Ill mess you up! They call me fat stick, cause when I come down on you I come down hard! Or was that just fat cause if  I mash you toe its broken....Hmmmm anyway its one of those!

Lovin that Avatar man.

[pdpguy]

Oh boy,

I'm not a moderator here or anything like that, but I think this might get out of control.  What I just is this let's just respect each others opinions and thoughts.  I've learned alot from this site.  There's a lot of good stuff happening here and a lot of ignorance, but we must learn to listen and learn.  It's not easy to hold our tongues back, but let's be careful with our words.  Let's not let this get into a false prophets situation.  However, with reading all these responses I feel that I have learned alot of things just from this one topic.  I guess the conclusion I got from this shed's topic is that sheds can be both a spiritual thing and an educational thing too.  Nonetheless it depends on who's leading it and what are motives are. Take care and God Bless everyone.

Carlito

i don't know if my comments may contributed to you thinking that someone was offended. your questions were in fact valid. i just answered them according to what i experience. reading through the posts, i don't think anyone was offended by what you said. sheds i participate in are about education and inspiring each other. we often eat dinner together afterwards and have even done scripture study and discussion. then we will make copies of the videos, watch them, and then tell each other later about how much fun it was, what we picked up from the others, and when we want to do it again. Usually, we're all pretty pumped about playing the next day at church.

but of course i shed with friends, not just fellow musicians. so there's really no jealousy or pride to be dealt with. we would put each other back in place if that ever happened. because we're friends.

and as for what's the point of a shed?. . . i know for a fact that my left hand is faster and more controlled, my rolls around the kit are more varied (left to right, AND right to left). these are things that picked up on and improved because of things i watched people do in sheds. . . not on videos. so sheds have their place. it's just not the same for everyone. i guess i'm just blessed with friends who play good enough for me to learn from and humble enough to learn from me.

be blessed.

[EricT]

Thats a load of GARBAGE! God gave that to you!? I think NOT! Im sure God has better things to deal with then some punk kids shreding! Theres nothing wrong with shredding it helps you learn and keeps you on top of your game, and if youre not good enough it makes you want to improve!
Why is it people like you always have to take a crap on something the Christian young people that is positive! Yet have the nerve to complain when they turn to gangs, drugs and whatever! They are still in Church having FUN! Okokok guys pray and thank God for your gift and talents even hold a worship service before you shred to shut people like this up!

Your game or your gift....My interpretation of improvement may not be yours. You never heard me say that sheddin was a badd thing did you? That's mistake number 1. Before you began to write, you should have taken some time to organize your thoughts.  And secondly, you don't know me. But by seeing some of your written work on this site, YOU are a very knowledgable brother. Remember GOD wants the entire heart...he wants it all. Don't worry, it's people like me that helped to lay the foundation for alot of cats here in the DC area...it's people like me that refer other young brothers to certain chruches to play, but also remind them of their resposibility to GOD first, including professionalism. It's people like me that encourgages younger brothers as yourself to stay and get your foundation in church so that you can be able to play in all Genres of music if you so desire. It's people like me that try my best to educate young musicians from making mistakes as yourself. Christianity is not fun...it's serious business. Young brother I have worked in Child Weflare here in the District of Columbia, I am a little league football coach, Minister of Muisic, a father and husband.  It's my job to make sure YOU know the right way....and that way may not neccessarily be your way. 

Now when you find the actual words that I wrote that said "Shedding is a bad thing", "QUOTE ME" but i am not responsible for your interpretation only you are.....OH and if GAME is another word for Gift. I'd rather use the one that is listed in the WORD.       

[EricT]

i don't know if my comments may contributed to you thinking that someone was offended. your questions were in fact valid. i just answered them according to what i experience. reading through the posts, i don't think anyone was offended by what you said. sheds i participate in are about education and inspiring each other. we often eat dinner together afterwards and have even done scripture study and discussion. then we will make copies of the videos, watch them, and then tell each other later about how much fun it was, what we picked up from the others, and when we want to do it again. Usually, we're all pretty pumped about playing the next day at church.

but of course i shed with friends, not just fellow musicians. so there's really no jealousy or pride to be dealt with. we would put each other back in place if that ever happened. because we're friends.

and as for what's the point of a shed?. . . i know for a fact that my left hand is faster and more controlled, my rolls around the kit are more varied (left to right, AND right to left). these are things that picked up on and improved because of things i watched people do in sheds. . . not on videos. so sheds have their place. it's just not the same for everyone. i guess i'm just blessed with friends who play good enough for me to learn from and humble enough to learn from me.

be blessed.

I appreciate that take brah....I never started the thread with the thought that sheds are a badd thing....but in that process we should all hope to get better to pleae him and not ourselves....your points were very well taken....

[blaquegenius]

A shed is going to be what you make it. If you strickly go for competition and to show off then your heart ain't right. But if you go to learn, fellowship and encourage other musicians then keep pressing.

Hmmmm same goes for church... What it comes down to is your motive when do what you do....


PS....I AM A SUPER CHRISTIAN....CAN'T YOU SEE THE BIG C ON MY CHEST.....???

[MENDOZA]

To answer your question; YES I learn lots! Ive been playing for 23-24 years and some of these guys are doing things I dont do (now I didnt say cant do, cause ill mess all ya all up and you all know it!!!! S.I.M.P., JK, SK, ER), so I save them and watch and learn! I really cant understand how you cant see a chance to learn off shred videos.

Hey BBD I never said you can't learn anything from a shed tape, I believe you can learn something from anyone at any time, level, etc.  I've learned stuff from people that have had the most "unorthodox" method, but have value to it.  I think sheds are a good thing, but from what I've seen, again ( from what I have) seen it looks very limited.  Maybe you can hook me up with a video or something to enlighten me.  I respect you because you keep it real with the LGM family.  I'm just trying to do the same.  I'm just seeking to hear opinions and how people here think.  It's pretty crazy what comes out of here and I love this place!!!  Take care and God Bless.

Carlito

yo BBD hit me up with a PM, I would love to get up with you and talk to you about a few things.

[EricT]

A shed is going to be what you make it. If you strickly go for competition and to show off then your heart ain't right. But if you go to learn, fellowship and encourage other musicians then keep pressing.

Hmmmm same goes for church... What it comes down to is your motive when do what you do....


PS....I AM A SUPER CHRISTIAN....CAN'T YOU SEE THE BIG C ON MY CHEST.....???

LOL.... I guess i got caught up in some brothers mentioning in another thread...that one person was better than the other.. and I thought "Is that what shedding is about"..cause I too thought it was to share certain licks and chops, but I just didn't understand whre that thread was going..esp if we're supposed to be "Shedding for Christ"..and not ourselves....

thanks for the help brah...

[blaquegenius]

LOL.... I guess i got caught up in some brothers mentioning in another thread...that one person was better than the other.. and I thought "Is that what shedding is about"..cause I too thought it was to share certain licks and chops, but I just didn't understand whre that thread was going..esp if we're supposed to be "Shedding for Christ"..and not ourselves....

thanks for the help brah...

No Worries...brah... I see you're in the DC area...I'm sure we know some of the same folks....

[EricT]

No Worries...brah... I see you're in the DC area...I'm sure we know some of the same folks....

yea Jay Jay Williams and I serve on the same staff at our church....

[Drumwen]

Question? Why church folk allways see EVIL in everything? Why cant musicians get together and have FUN and Learn from each other?