giant steps

[docjohn]

does anybody have changes and theory for giant steps(coltrane) and magic(john patton)?  BE blessed!

[funkyfingaz]

Giant steps is an augmented matrix cycle...Based on the notes of the B augmented chord. B-Eb-G. The movements are all 5-1 and 2-5-1's in these three keys. Starting in B, it goes in to the key of G and does a 5-1, then goes to Eb doing notha 5-1, then in G a 2-5-1, back to 5-1 in Eb leading to a 5-1 in B. After is a 2-5-1 in Eb, then a 2-5-1 in G, then a 2-5-1 in B back to 2-5-1 in B. Last two chords are 5-1 in B..Then back to the beginning

Read it slow and play it, keeping the melody note as the top note of your chords. You should get by wat i wrote. If I had MIDI i would have just played it. Try it and If u questions holla at me. I never heard Magic before..i think

[docjohn]

thank you!will try it tomorrow-think John patton's MAGIC was a minor 2-5-1,will post it if i find it,in HIS NAME

[diverse379]

thank you!will try it tomorrow-think John patton's MAGIC was a minor 2-5-1,will post it if i find it,in HIS NAME

I heard someone play great is thy faithfulness using this formulae

does anybody know any other songs that can be harmonized with this set up

i am going to try to see what I can get

the theory is harmonizing 2-5-1 in major thirds instead of perfect fourths

and you get into that subdominant minor thing.

i would really like to explore this thing further

[docjohn]

as always diversi-you have great posts!  didn't know that about 2-5-1, 3rds /4ths.will have to study this also.thanks be blessed!

[diverse379]

as always diversi-you have great posts!  didn't know that about 2-5-1, 3rds /4ths.will have to study this also.thanks be blessed!

thanks doc john
fyi
my name is Diverse like many things in different areas
not diversi like the organ

allot of people make that mistake i dont know why

[Hammondman]

Posted by: funkyfingaz: "Giant steps is an augmented matrix cycle...Based on the notes of the B augmented chord. B-Eb-G. The movements are all 5-1 and 2-5-1's in these three keys. Starting in B"

That explaination it the best I've heard of it...here's a link to a page where I explained it and did a 30min clip of the playing of it.


http://zone.hearandplay.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=1073&highlight=giant+steps

[SupremeSaltine]

B A#/C# D# F#     Bmaj9           }
D C/F# B D            D13             }
G B/D F# B            Gmaj7          }-----First statement of theme
Bb Ab/B D G          Bb13 (b9)     }
Eb G/C F Bb           Ebmaj6/9     }

A G/C E G B           Amin9          }-----2-5 in G, transition to 2nd statement of theme
D C/ Eb F# A         D7 (b9)        }

G B/F# B D            Gmaj7          }
Bb Ab/D G Bb        Bb13            }
Eb Bb/G D G          Ebmaj7         }-----Second statement of theme
F# E/G# A# D#     F#13           }
B A#/C# D# F#     Bmaj9          }

F Eb/Ab C G          Fmin9           }
Bb Ab/C D F           Bb9             }-----2-5-1 in E flat major
Eb G/C F Bb           Ebmaj6/9     }

A G/C E B              Amin9          }
D F#/C E A            D9               }-----2-5-1 in G major
G B/F# A D            Gmaj7          }

C# B/E G# D#       C#min9        }
F# A#/E G# C#     F#9             }-----2-5-1 in B major
B A#/C# D# F#     Bmaj9          }

F Eb/Ab C G          Fmin9           }
Bb Ab/ C D F         Bb9              }-----2-5-1 in E flat major
Eb G/C F Bb          Ebmaj6/9      }

C# B/E F#            C#min11       }-----2-5 in B major leads back to the top of the form
F# E/A# D# F#    F#13            }

Sorry about the formatting.  It might be a good idea for this forum to use a font where all the characters are the same width to make this easier.

I voiced this simply with the melody notes on top (in the "soprano" voice).  The difficult thing about this tune is not the chord changes.  The challenge is to weave a coherent improvised melody through the changes.

Coltrane rules.

[SupremeSaltine]

For those who have no idea what were talking about here is the original.  No video just an animation.  Listen to how Coltrane weaves the melody through the chord changes. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZRnkBK_0no

Here is Coltrane's long time piano player, McCoy Tyner, improvising on the theme, just for fun.  Does this guy have any chops or what?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PukuQPUKfyU