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Offline bornagain44

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« on: February 20, 2007, 09:32:32 AM »
Hello,

I just purchased a four string bass guitar.  I don't know anything about the bass guitar.  I just learned the strings EADG and that's all.  What's my next step?  I would love to learn how to play Cooling Water ; Williams Brothers and Miracle Worker; Rance Allen.  I was told that I need to learn my scales and when I googled bass scales and saw all those numbers I was lost.  What does the numbers represent?  I only have four strings on my bass.  Can you give me some feedback?
 
Thank you,

Priscilla

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Re: Questions
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2007, 10:27:11 AM »
Typically if numbers can represent a few different things.

If you see this:

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---------------1-3-4---------------------
-------1-2-4-----------------------------
--2-4-------------------------------------

This is called TAB.  Each line represents a string, the top line represents the  G string and the bottom line represents the E string.
The number represent the frets (metal strips) going down the neck, so in the expample the first number from left to right is 2, located
on the bottom or E string.  This is telling you to play the second fret on the E string which is F# then comes the 4th fret same string which is G# then
the string switches to the A string 1st Fret A# then B(2nd Fret) and so on.

This is also how you play a major scale.

ANOTHER THING THAT THE NUMBERS COULD BE INDICATING.  DOES NOT RELATE TO TAB AT ALL.  So clear the Tab examples out for now.

The major scale is made up of 7 notes.  The Note that the scale is named after example "C major Scale" is named after the C or Root note.

C D E F G A B is the C major scale.  Each step or Degree in the scale is given an different corresponding number


1   2   3   4   5   6   7
C   D   E   F   G   A   B

Think of the numbers as a road map to where you are within the scale.  The beautiful thing about the bass, is that once you learn the patterns to create these scales, they can be moved up and down the neck in different tonalities, starting with the ROOT note.  A C Major Scale pattern, also works for Eb Major Scale.  By just starting at the Eb.


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Re: Questions
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2007, 10:57:02 AM »
Hello,

I just purchased a four string bass guitar.  I don't know anything about the bass guitar.  I just learned the strings EADG and that's all.  What's my next step?  I would love to learn how to play Cooling Water ; Williams Brothers and Miracle Worker; Rance Allen.  I was told that I need to learn my scales and when I googled bass scales and saw all those numbers I was lost.  What does the numbers represent?  I only have four strings on my bass.  Can you give me some feedback?
 
Thank you,

Priscilla

What I think you need to REALLY understand is the forumla for a major scale.

Each Fret on the bass marks a note moving higher in pitch (as you move down the neck) a half note.

So on the E string it goes

E - F - Gb - G - Gb A (etc...)

Now if you notice the A note on the E string is the same as the Open A stringl.  Keep this in mind as it will be explained in a little bit.

Ok so a Major scale formula is this:
     1   2   3  4  5   6  7 8(1)     
Root W W  H W W W H

the 8 is the same thing as the root, it's just played an octave higher.
W = Whole Step
H  = Half Step

The first Note of the scale is what is known as the root note, so above whatever note you decide your major key will be will be the root.
Then from the root you take a WHOLE STEP(skip a fret from your root note fret and play that one). Of course where you see an H you just move your note up one fret.

Now if you remember I said that the A (fifth Fret on on the E string) is the same as the Open A string.
This is means that the bass is tuned in fourths (or fifths if you look at it from highest string to lowest).  I won't go into detail on the tuning right now, but a concept that you need to understand is that those notes that you would need to slide your hand down to hit are right there on your next string over. 

This is how the tab that Torch7 drew up works

say you have the pattern

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---------------1-3-4---------------------
-------1-2-4-----------------------------
--2-4-------------------------------------

ok, so This sould be a Gb scale because the 2nd fret on the E string is a Gb.

So if you follow the pattern I gave you above (Root W W  H W W W H)
Then you will find that the notes for a Gb scale are: Gb - Ab - Bb - B - Db - Eb -F - Gb

Now lets tabe out the actual notes on the strings

0   |    1    |    2    |    3     |   4     |    5
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G |     Ab   |    A    |    Bb   |   B     |    C   
D |     Eb   |    E     |    F    |   Gb    |   G   
A |     Bb   |    B     |    C    |   Db    |   D 
E |      F    |    Gb   |    G    |   Ab    |    A


Now Hoefully you can see how that pattern works out. 

Now the pattern that torch tabed out isn't the only way to play a major scale.  I encourage you to look at the above forumla and figure out more patterns to play it in.  Hopefully this will help you out.

~Jeremy

Somebody put me in the key of E#

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Re: Questions
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2007, 11:20:38 AM »
First and foremost, Welcome.  These guys have given you great advise, so I won't add more to that at this moment.  I don't want to cloud your head with too much information.
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Re: Questions
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2007, 12:20:16 PM »
Welcome to LGM ;D
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Re: Questions
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Re: Questions
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2007, 10:05:00 AM »
BASS BASICS VIDEO! :P

+1 It's a great way to get started.  Also, consider Mel Bay's first book (around $8 in most music stores, I think)

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Re: Questions
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2007, 12:21:10 PM »
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Re: Questions
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2007, 07:01:44 PM »
Welcome to the site and to the Bass team.
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Re: Questions
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2007, 11:03:35 PM »
One thing that I did when I started is to just sit down with the instrument and play along with some records/CD's.  Nothing too technical, just something simple to help me get familiar with the instrument.
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Re: Questions
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2007, 10:23:33 AM »
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Re: Questions
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2007, 02:18:59 PM »
Good advice so far... and it NEVER hurts to find a local teacher for lessons.  Sometimes it's easier to learn face-to-face, and to have someone observe your technique first hand.
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