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Offline rish1906

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IM LOOKING FOR CHORDS AND TABS FOR MOST BLACK GOSPEL ARTIST LIKE
KIRK FRANKLIN
MARY MARY
TYE TRIBBETT
J MOSS
FRED HAMMOND
THE WILLIAMS BROTHERS

SO ON AND SO ON JUST TO MANY TO NAME. DO YALL KNOW ANY WEBSITES OR STORE WHERE I CAN GET THEM FROM???
I TOOK SELF OUT OF THE WAY, BEFORE THE THROWN OF GRACE I LAY, WHATS MY PURPOSE.

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NOBODY,SELL THOSE TYPES OF BOOKS :'( :'(

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Most of the fake books, are hymns,you will not find any of those artist,in those books.But,those are the type of books,to start off with.They are ,for easy guitar,but they are okay.

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yeah, you won't find any tab books.......there is hardly any tab for christian rock music, which is way more guitar oriented. the only thing you'll find is artist folios, but that's almost exclusively sheet music with the chords written out above the staff. jus listen, use your ears, figure it out.....you'll be glad you did int he long run.

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AMEN,RISH1906,learn the minor pentatonic,all over the frett board.Play it slow,so you can hear what each note sound like.I know people will not agree with this,this is the only scale you need to know for black gospel.

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SO IT LOOKS LIKE THE OVERALL ANSWER IS NO WHERE!!!!!!!!!! BUT IVE BEEN PLAYING BY EAR AND A COUPLE CHORD SHEETS FOR ABOUT A YEAR NOW....THE ONLY THING ABOUT PLAYING BY EAR IS THAT IT COULD TAKE A LITTLE LONGER...BUT OHHHH WELLLL LOOKS LIKE THATS WHAT I HAVE TO DO. I WAS TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO CHEAT...LOLOLOL.....APPRECIATE ALL THE RESPONSES.......OHHH YEA OFF THE TOPIC...BUT IM STILL LOOKING FOR THE CHORDS OR TABS FOR WITHOUT YOU BY KIRK FRANKLIN OFF THE HERO ALBUM...THANKS....
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Some of the artist folios are decent...I like the Israel & NB books because they, at least, offer a "roadmap" as to changes and such.

Artist DVDs are a prime source of some cool guitar ideas as you can see the guitarist...especially in songs featuring nylon guitar...pretty stuff. Some Fred Hammond DVDs are pretty nice. Most Israel DVDs don't ever show any guitarist....so it varies. Try to network with others in your area and borrow some DVDs to have a look before you purchase them.


Most of the other "artist folios" or books don't give you much, but are interesting in terms of form OR confirming a certain chord form that can be confusing because of the extensive use of "shash chords" or altered bass note use by gospel keyboard players.


Another resource is to learn to read SOME music! Not really much, but enough to use some of the single song contemporary gospel sheet music available.

I get a lot of this music from Thelma at It's God's Choice Christian Bookstore in Capitol Heights, MD. Thelma is a sweetheart and a true blessing and will call me when something I want comes in. Check her web site for some of the music available: http://www.igccb.com/BlackGospelSheetMusic1.html

NOTE: This is NOT guitar form music....it's REAL music. You have to read (or decode) a bit of music, but it really helps when lazy piano players try to insist something bizarre is true....and you can show that the song goes a whole other direction. It cuts down on disagreement in the long run.

Reading this music isn't rocket science. There's lots of sites on the Internet to tell you the notes if you've forgotten the old "Every Good Boy Does Fine" rules. You'll find most of what you want in the treble staff in terms of chord motion, but you might have to reorder them for comfortable guitar fingerings. The Bass staff will give you the motion and you might only need this information.

Again....all this assumes you want to know more than when to turn your wah-wah on and off. If you play TOO much of the actual chords, you'll be in the keyboard players way and annoy the bass player. So the key is to use this music as a place to invent your own guitar part that serves the song and the Lord.

Just some ideas before coffee....   ;)

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amen brother thats what its all about is him........that web site is the bomb....they have a couple of the artist im looking for on there.....but at least they give u the right notes so i dont think it will be a problem decoding some of the songs...thx bro  BBLESSED
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amen brother thats what its all about is him........that web site is the bomb....they have a couple of the artist im looking for on there.....but at least they give u the right notes so i dont think it will be a problem decoding some of the songs...thx bro  BBLESSED

I imagine you'll be ordering by phone, so let me tell you what you're reaching on the other end -- because it's cool 'lil store.

You'll probably reach Thelma Lee....who is TOO sweet and real....simply a wonderful human being.


Now...at any time of the day, picture a telephone with a long cord pulled our to a large round table in the middle of a store filled with gospel music, bibles, choir robes and stuff. There's a piano and a guitar against one wall for lessons.

All around the big table are church women discussing recent topics, religion, lunch & GOD....mostly GOD and lunch!

While they're discussing and praising, they're answering the phone and assembling phone & mail orders together. Any slow periods seem to be filled with putting together big mailings for some church...probably theirs.

When you ask about a song, one of them will probably walk to several large cardboard boxes and look for your music while they talk to each other about where it's filed. Eveything seems to be done by committee and, I mean, they tend to file songs by the main lyrical theme instead of the actual title sometimes....but if you sing them a few bars, they'll know IMMEDIATELY where that song is located. Funny stuff...very cute!

And you don't want to rush them...if you rush them, they'll only quote scripture to you and it will take longer!   ;)

People drop in and out of this store....and on Sunday, it IS THE CHURCH until they get something bigger.

I buy ALL my gospel music and CDs/DVDs there just because they got it SO right. Everyday is Sunday and they're doing His work with devotion, pride and dignity. It's a family of God in that shop with no pretense or foolishness...


Very special folks well deserving of your patronage and business.

******** END OF SHAMELESS PLUG FOR THELMA ********   ;D :D



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mannnn i thought i was actually there when i was reading that u otta write a book......
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I don't mean to be a stick in tha mud, but my music teacher (when I was taking classes) told me that most gospel songs won't be found in store tabbed for you already.  He told me that I could develop my ear if I could listen to a song and figure out the notes and chords. 

most gospel songs will have the same progression in them.  If the song sounds like a rock song (Tye Tribbett - no other choice) then it's a more rock progression than a gospel one. ( I almost had the song figured out until I remembered that someone posted the chords  :D)

But I won't leave you without a solution  ;) I don't know if you heard about hearandplay.com, but Jermaine Griggs give alot of progression used in gospel. If you have a good background on theory, you can transpose alot of stuff from the piano onto the guitar.  I guarantee you that when you play the same thing the organist is playing, everyone will look at you different. 8)

Also it helps to get in good with a pianist willing to show you things  ::)

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yea thats very true......i usually get the notes and chords from the organist and go home and practice them to get ready for sunday....but i love that song thats one of my favorite. im gonna try to search for those chords...no other choice by tye tribbett are they on this site???
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I don't mean to be a stick in tha mud, but my music teacher (when I was taking classes) told me that most gospel songs won't be found in store tabbed for you already.  He told me that I could develop my ear if I could listen to a song and figure out the notes and chords. 

most gospel songs will have the same progression in them.  If the song sounds like a rock song (Tye Tribbett - no other choice) then it's a more rock progression than a gospel one. ( I almost had the song figured out until I remembered that someone posted the chords  :D)

But I won't leave you without a solution  ;) I don't know if you heard about hearandplay.com, but Jermaine Griggs give alot of progression used in gospel. If you have a good background on theory, you can transpose alot of stuff from the piano onto the guitar.  I guarantee you that when you play the same thing the organist is playing, everyone will look at you different. 8)

Also it helps to get in good with a pianist willing to show you things  ::)
They have a guitar gospel dvd,coming out real soon ;D ;D

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I don't mean to be a stick in tha mud, but my music teacher (when I was taking classes) told me that most gospel songs won't be found in store tabbed for you already.  He told me that I could develop my ear if I could listen to a song and figure out the notes and chords. 

most gospel songs will have the same progression in them.  If the song sounds like a rock song (Tye Tribbett - no other choice) then it's a more rock progression than a gospel one. ( I almost had the song figured out until I remembered that someone posted the chords  :D)

But I won't leave you without a solution  ;) I don't know if you heard about hearandplay.com, but Jermaine Griggs give alot of progression used in gospel. If you have a good background on theory, you can transpose alot of stuff from the piano onto the guitar.  I guarantee you that when you play the same thing the organist is playing, everyone will look at you different. 8)

Also it helps to get in good with a pianist willing to show you things  ::)

I agree 100% with your view.

The problem I've run into is two-part.

1. I have a keyboard player that doesn't feel guitar is needed. I question chords and chord movement. I'm a general pain in the butt because I don't want to "make it through" Sunday service. I get NO help from him and he can't tell you what he's playing in musical terms anyway, it's all habit and mechanical repetition to him.

2. Getting up to speed on those "same progressions" isn't easy unless you have some base to initially learn them from. I'm finding progressions repeated or turned upside down all through this music....but first I needed to see them correctly laid out.

You WON'T find gospel songs in stores tabbed because there is so little guitar IN gospel music. We're largely left to find our own way. Anything claiming to have "guitar chords" are usually more harm than good.

I could have existed quietly with my wah and volume pedals adding beautiful swells and color work behind the piano player, but I've chosen to up my OWN game by bringing complementary acoustic and nylon guitar to work alongside the piano. For this I NEED real progressions I can walk in with and if the keyboard player is being lazy or just relying on old habits, I need to be RIGHT if I'm going to argue for a change in that song.


This keyboard sheet music is NOT always correct, but is considered along with my ear in developing the best recipe I can cook up. I'm in a position of guerilla warfare in my quest for excellence...I'll use ANYTHING that might help in my small battle.

It's strange, but I'm starting to learn to play the entire song in jazz style by myself, but I understand that I need to almost forget it all on Sunday to do condensed versions that will fit with a keyboard that's taking up most of the sonic space. Still, knowing the bigger chordal picture allows me some great ideas of upper voice movement that sit perfectly with piano or Hammond organ.




I actually got one of my highest complements by way of the bass player this week for my efforts. Last Sunday, I saw our bass player talking closely to a visiting keyboard player from another church. They are old friends.

I saw the visitor eyeing me suspiciously after service and saying something to our bass player, followed by the bass player turning to see me looking back....at which point the bass player sorta laughed.

I later asked the bass player if they were talkin' about me and he seemed reluctant to tell me what was said.

I prodded about what that keyboard player had said and the bass player sorta smiled sheepishly and asked, "Do you REALLY want to know EXACTLY what he told me?"

"He said: 'White Boy BAAAAAD!'"   ;D

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Thanks,for posting this RISH 1906,cause this is what alot of us need help with.Gospel music is based on patterns.Some of you more,experience brothers help.PATTERNS,PATTERNS.

                                                     1-4
                           GOD is a good GOD,I get joy,Soldier in the army.
                               
                                             1-4-5
                                Lots of songs,Most Hymns

                                          145-251 
                                 Most congrengational songs

                                         2-5-1
               Is how you end ,most songs,or take you back to the start of song.

                                    6 -2-5-1

                                     7-3-6-5-1

                 Go to this site and play along with different midi.
                 You will hear the different patterns.Buy HearandPlay dvd-300
                  http://www.godsgospel.com/new112005.htm
                         
                                       

                           

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They have a guitar gospel dvd,coming out real soon ;D ;D

PLEASE KEEP US POSTED!!!!

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sonar///// if ur gettin compliments from other string players that know how to play a little bit...then u doing a good job brother...keep it up....

rown////// im going to check that site out to see if i can pick up some things

gibby//// do u have the chords to no other choice by tye tribbett
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****ATTENTION!!!!*******
I AM JUST COPYING AND PASTING!!  I AM NOT TAKING ANY CREDIT FOR THIS TAB!!!!


This song is fairly simple.  It has mainly power chords which are:

Intro

C#5, B5, A5 (listen to the song for the rhythm) 3 times...
Hits:  A, B, C#...
Then they take everything up a whole step...Eb5, C#5, and B5

Verse

A5 then E5
little lick  F#, Ab,to B5

A5 to C#5, B5

repeat first set of chords

(so im givin up my will for yours) D5, C#5, B5

Hook

E5 B5 A5

hits Eb5 C#5 B5

Second verse the same until (rest on hat you say) A5 Eb5 Ab5

F#5 to F5
then Eb5 Ab5 C#5

hits B, Bb, Ab, F#, F, Ab, F#(or back to F# power chord)

Hook2:    F#5, F5(not 100% about this chord), B5

Drum solo first hit F#5
               second hit is the hits that start on B and end in F#  (3 lines up)

Back to hook2 until fade


I HOPE THAT THIS HELPED YOU GOD BLESS
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