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Offline dfwkeys

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More theory questions (sigh)
« on: March 21, 2007, 08:14:07 AM »
Being new to the instrument but quickly learning... When i'm watching You tube vids of guitarist that go up in down the neck with ease, is this where it's important to know your theory or is it that they know there scales/modes in all the positions?

I guess my 2nd question is, how important does theory take place when playing the guitar?  Is it on the same level has piano or any other instrument?

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Re: More theory questions (sigh)
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2007, 09:29:24 AM »
If you know different positions and voicings of the same chord then you can play chords anywhere.  If you know what chords you are playing on the piano, then you can transpose most of that stuff on the guitar.

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Re: More theory questions (sigh)
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2007, 10:21:57 AM »
Music theory applies to music regardless of what instrument one plays. Sure, there are specific areas of technique that can be unique to each instrument with some similarities between some instruments (guitar to bass and/or violin to mandolin, etc...) and there are a couple differences in how various cultures and regions create/express music (eastern hemisphere's use of quarter tones and/or atonal music) but the theory of music is pretty much what it is.

Going up and down the neck with ease...let me see if I can break this down for you...the music notes we use are as follows:
A- A#/Bb - B - C - C#/Db - D - D#/Eb - E - F - F#/Gb - G - G#/Ab - and back to A and repeat.

That's only 12 notes, right?
Now check out your guitar:
probably got 6 strings and maybe 22 frets.
6 x 22 = 132 different notes, right?
Sort of...it's really 132 different places to play just those 12 notes so that leaves room for a lot of repetition...redundancy.

To me, the key to going up and down the guitar neck with ease is to discover how those 12 simple notes repeat themselves across those 132 different places and you can start to do that by recognizing scale patterns (both by shape and by interval structure) and chord patterns (again, by shape and by triad structure) all over the neck.
It can start with learning 1 scale in as many places as possible or learning a chord as many places as it occurs then start moving around little by little, adding a new scale and a new chord, etc...

Bottom line is it takes time and practice.
Music theory is not always music reality.

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Re: More theory questions (sigh)
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2007, 12:23:23 PM »
if you learn the 7 modes of the major scale you'll be able to play anything on any position of the neck at anytime. like Dave said, there are only so many notes that can be played, especially when you consider the major scale has 7 notes that are different, the pentatonic scales have 5 notes that are different...........there's tons of repetition. just gotta put in the time to get comfortable all over the neck.

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Re: More theory questions (sigh)
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2007, 07:08:52 AM »
Learn as many different chord shapes and positions to play the same chord and scales up the neck.
And know that the fretboard starts back over at the 12th fret with E A D G B E. Practice shifting from low register to high and eventually it will all come together. - God Bless- ;)
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