Secular Music

[mr.dj]

You want something better than R. Kelly?  Try Silk, now they gone be in heavy rotation as well.

"There's a meeting in my bedroom....", yall know that song gets em everytime.

T-Block what you know about that.  Also try some 112 their pretty good to.

[T-Block]

It was and still is on mine.

You betta tell somebody cuz they missin out on R. Kelly.

T-Block what you know about that.  Also try some 112 their pretty good to.

Silk got that fire, for real.  Oh yeah, 112 got some nice joints too.  Man, I love R&B music almost as much as gospel.  Not all R&B, just the stuff I like.  You won't believe how much R&B music I got.

[BassbyGrace]

He's off da chain.

Oh yeah hes dirty.  Hes actually done most of the drum tracks on their albums.  And how bout the whole band plays guitar?  Thats wild.  But they say it helps with the writing.

I tell you what though.  When I came home to see my wife on R&R, that Bobby Valentino was in heavy rotation too LOLOL.

[dhagler]

TMI! TMI!

How about some smooth jazz instead??! There's gotta be something better than R Kelly!

+1.  There's plenty of original stuff from Norman Brown, Gerald Albright, Art Porter, Wayman Tisdale (how could I leave HIM out on a forum for bassists?), Fourplay, etc.  In addition, these guys play covers that will give you the same feeling without potentially offensive lyrical content.

[laj528]

With only 31 votes...... It is difficult to get a consensus or LGM majority rule.
Lets keep voting!
http://www.learngospelmusic.com/forums/index.php/topic,42342.0.html

[malthumb]

With only 31 votes...... It is difficult to get a consensus or LGM majority rule.
Lets keep voting!

I voted a long time ago, but I didn't comment.  Didn't feel like kickin' up dust.   But a lot of you have been talking about the same things that I'm thinkin'.

There are soooo many types of secular music available to us that we can each pick or own portfolio of what's okay and what's offensive.  Just like we can all make our own decisions about what's acceptable in everything from t-shirts to bathing suits, we all have differing ideas of what music is okay to play and what is just downright scandalous.  I won't hate you for not wanting to play ANY secular music, but don't you hate me when I'm out with my cover band playing "Strawberry Letter 23" or "Serpentine Fire".

I'm another old-schooler.  I'll break my neck to listen to some old Earth Wind & Fire, Gap Band, Cameo, Teena Marie, Rose Royce et cetera et cetera.  I freaked my niece out completely when she started singing one of Mary Jay Blige's new songs and I handed her my iPod with the Rose Royce version from about 25 or 30 years ago playing.

Peace,

James

[dhagler]

There are soooo many types of secular music available to us that we can each pick or own portfolio of what's okay and what's offensive.  Just like we can all make our own decisions about what's acceptable in everything from t-shirts to bathing suits, we all have differing ideas of what music is okay to play and what is just downright scandalous.  I won't hate you for not wanting to play ANY secular music, but don't you hate me when I'm out with my cover band playing "Strawberry Letter 23" or "Serpentine Fire".

+1.  Sometimes during rehearsal I'll break into "Candy", "Slide" or "Let's Groove" just to watch the choir start movin'.

[psilentrain1]

Me and some friends of mine like to do a lot of "Neo-Soul" such as Jill Scott and Musiq Soulchild plus some classic R&B and Soul like EWF and Anita Baker

[godsbassman2000]

With only 31 votes...... It is difficult to get a consensus or LGM majority rule.
Lets keep voting!
http://www.learngospelmusic.com/forums/index.php/topic,42342.0.html

I would have been nice to have the option "It's up to the individual". Music does not affect everyone in the same way. Some may argue against this, but scripture is silent on this matter. I don't believe anyone can come up with an absolute answer for everyone. There are some things I am convicted about, that others freely do. For me, that's between them and God.


Peace!

[terrwill90]

Ay man wat up. This question was on my mined for a while. so i took it to ma pastor he descused with me that a person should be able to tell the diffrence between a saint and a siner by the way they act. why would you want to test the fact and do as the world. but im not knocking your still at all but u just have to draw a line somewere. but i also want to remind you that songs carry spirits. and when you play certain thing in church, such as the baselines you were talking about they might not have the anointing in it.but it is a touchy subject. 

[Torch7]

Ay man wat up. This question was on my mined for a while. so i took it to ma pastor he descused with me that a person should be able to tell the diffrence between a saint and a siner by the way they act. why would you want to test the fact and do as the world. but im not knocking your still at all but u just have to draw a line somewere. but i also want to remind you that songs carry spirits. and when you play certain thing in church, such as the baselines you were talking about they might not have the anointing in it.but it is a touchy subject. 

Yes indeed it is a touchy subject around these parts...

Welcome to the board.

[smittyz14]

Hey Y'all,

I just have to say that you have to be careful. 

There's a whole lot that music can do to you spiritually and you'll never know or understand why.  The reason that you need to be careful is because the devil is the most subtle being there is.  Why, when he came to tempt Jesus he even used scripture.  Also, I'm sure some of you know, lucifer was the chief of praise and worship to God before he fell.  So, with him being so sneaky and us working in an arena (music) that he has FULL KNOWLEDGE of, we need to be extremely careful. 

What you may think of as a nice lick may be something that satan planted in someone elses spirit to keep them in bondage - and then, unknowingly, you become an agent of satan.

Stay on your knees and pray and go where the Holy Ghost takes you during praise and worship.  Remember, praise and worship is all about God and we're just a conduit for God to use to help other praise Him! 

So, in essence, my vote is to stay away from secular music, you don't know what spirits has been attached to it.  Stay connected to God, and He'll use you to build you up to be more than what any secular artist can do.  And, lastly, there are many Christian artist out there that you can use to help build your repertoire.

Peace and God's Love,
YBIC - Smitty

[drummin4JC]

Hey Y'all,

I just have to say that you have to be careful. 

There's a whole lot that music can do to you spiritually and you'll never know or understand why.  The reason that you need to be careful is because the devil is the most subtle being there is.  Why, when he came to tempt Jesus he even used scripture.  Also, I'm sure some of you know, lucifer was the chief of praise and worship to God before he fell.  So, with him being so sneaky and us working in an arena (music) that he has FULL KNOWLEDGE of, we need to be extremely careful. 

What you may think of as a nice lick may be something that satan planted in someone elses spirit to keep them in bondage - and then, unknowingly, you become an agent of satan.

Stay on your knees and pray and go where the Holy Ghost takes you during praise and worship.  Remember, praise and worship is all about God and we're just a conduit for God to use to help other praise Him! 

So, in essence, my vote is to stay away from secular music, you don't know what spirits has been attached to it.  Stay connected to God, and He'll use you to build you up to be more than what any secular artist can do.  And, lastly, there are many Christian artist out there that you can use to help build your repertoire.

Peace and God's Love,
YBIC - Smitty

YESS!!!! AMEN!!!!

[sjonathan02]

After reading 99% of the responses, I can say this. There's no true reason to not listen to secular music at all. That's just silly. "Reach out and touch somebody's hand. Make this world a better place, if you can." Not exactly Gospel, but it promotes a positive message of hope, relationship, caring and love. Isn't THAT what God is about...relationship?


"I believe the children are our future. Teach them well and let them lead the way" I mean, I could go on and on about the various SECULAR songs that promote a positive message. Folks shouldn't listen to that?


Married folks should consummate their union to 'This is the day'? You CAN'T be serious!


I'm reminded of being too heavenly bound and being no earthly good.

[malthumb]

Hey Y'all,

I just have to say that you have to be careful. 

There's a whole lot that music can do to you spiritually and you'll never know or understand why.  The reason that you need to be careful is because the devil is the most subtle being there is.  Why, when he came to tempt Jesus he even used scripture.  Also, I'm sure some of you know, lucifer was the chief of praise and worship to God before he fell.  So, with him being so sneaky and us working in an arena (music) that he has FULL KNOWLEDGE of, we need to be extremely careful. 

What you may think of as a nice lick may be something that satan planted in someone elses spirit to keep them in bondage - and then, unknowingly, you become an agent of satan.

Stay on your knees and pray and go where the Holy Ghost takes you during praise and worship.  Remember, praise and worship is all about God and we're just a conduit for God to use to help other praise Him! 

So, in essence, my vote is to stay away from secular music, you don't know what spirits has been attached to it.  Stay connected to God, and He'll use you to build you up to be more than what any secular artist can do.  And, lastly, there are many Christian artist out there that you can use to help build your repertoire.

Peace and God's Love,
YBIC - Smitty

On one hand I understand what you are saying, but on the other hand I have to say that I choose to err on the side of hope for all things good than the fear of all things evil.  I trust my own judgement to steer me towards the positive (whether it is religious or secular) and away from the negative (whether it is religious or secular).

If we could truly believe that all things of "the church" are good and directed by God and all things of "the world" are evil and directed by Satan, decisions would be easy.  But when we define things along such rigid lines, we deprive ourselves of much that is good in "the world" (like certain pieces of art, literature and SECULAR music).  And we open ourselves up to accept things in "the church" that are not good (the lifting up of SOME as false idols).

My advise?  Live.---> Experience---> Learn---> Teach---> Lead.  Do that within the church and within your everyday life.

Peace,

James

[sjonathan02]

On one hand I understand what you are saying, but on the other hand I have to say that I choose to err on the side of hope for all things good than the fear of all things evil.  I trust my own judgement to steer me towards the positive (whether it is religious or secular) and away from the negative (whether it is religious or secular).

If we could truly believe that all things of "the church" are good and directed by God and all things of "the world" are evil and directed by Satan, decisions would be easy.  But when we define things along such rigid lines, we deprive ourselves of much that is good in "the world" (like certain pieces of art, literature and SECULAR music).  And we open ourselves up to accept things in "the church" that are not good (the lifting up of SOME as false idols).

My advise?  Live.---> Experience---> Learn---> Teach---> Lead.  Do that within the church and within your everyday life.

Peace,

James

COSIGN!!

[T-Block]

After reading 99% of the responses, I can say this. There's no true reason to not listen to secular music at all. That's just silly. "Reach out and touch somebody's hand. Make this world a better place, if you can." Not exactly Gospel, but it promotes a positive message of hope, relationship, caring and love. Isn't THAT what God is about...relationship?


"I believe the children are our future. Teach them well and let them lead the way" I mean, I could go on and on about the various SECULAR songs that promote a positive message. Folks shouldn't listen to that?


Married folks should consummate their union to 'This is the day'? You CAN'T be serious!


I'm reminded of being too heavenly bound and being no earthly good.

Big CO-SIGN!!!

[gambit23435]

After reading 99% of the responses, I can say this. There's no true reason to not listen to secular music at all. That's just silly. "Reach out and touch somebody's hand. Make this world a better place, if you can." Not exactly Gospel, but it promotes a positive message of hope, relationship, caring and love. Isn't THAT what God is about...relationship?


"I believe the children are our future. Teach them well and let them lead the way" I mean, I could go on and on about the various SECULAR songs that promote a positive message. Folks shouldn't listen to that?


Married folks should consummate their union to 'This is the day'? You CAN'T be serious!


I'm reminded of being too heavenly bound and being no earthly good.

+1

[DWBass]

Whew! For a minute there, I thought I was in the minority! Music is a very powerful language and if positive intentions are used, it will be conveyed as such to others!

[dhagler]

Whew! For a minute there, I thought I was in the minority! Music is a very powerful language and if positive intentions are used, it will be conveyed as such to others!

+1.  God created everything, and everything He created can be used to gloirfy Him.  Unfortunately, everything He created can also be used to promote evil.