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HumbleGospelDrummer

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Need Help Convincin'............
« on: May 06, 2007, 07:49:14 PM »
Yo I know just about all of yall went through this but mine is constant, i need some advice on convincin' my dad(Pastor) that I need new cymbals fam.  Right now I use a 14" B8 Thin Crash, a 16" "Zildjian" Planet Z crash, 20" Planet Z ride, and a 12" Wuhan China.  I got a Mapex Pro M in the beginning of January for Christmas, but the cymbals do NOT match the sound of the set...............................at all.....................
And i'm serious about being a musician but they wont help a brotha out.  It's the church's drums so the church should help me get new cymbals(do you agree?).
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Re: Need Help Convincin'............
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2007, 07:54:13 PM »
It's more blessed to give than to receive.  I think as drummers we should own our own cymbals anyway.  BUT I feel were you coming from, but I would recommend buying the cymbals you like playing on.
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Re: Need Help Convincin'............
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2007, 07:59:50 PM »
Quote from: jtoomer on May 06, 2007, 07:54:13 PM
It's more blessed to give than to receive.  I think as drummers we should own our own cymbals anyway.  BUT I feel were you coming from, but I would recommend buying the cymbals you like playing on.

...and, then too, you don't know the real financial issue of the church (even if he's your dad).  In some churches, money (for the most part) is not an issue.  In many churches, money is an issue, but that all falls on the tithers and offering givers (or lack thereof, but that's a whole 'nother thread). 

Enough of my rant - I agree with jtoomer.  I would also recommend buying your own plates.   
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Re: Need Help Convincin'............
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2007, 08:09:06 PM »
Quote from: HumbleGospelDrummer on May 06, 2007, 07:49:14 PM
Yo I know just about all of yall went through this but mine is constant, i need some advice on convincin' my dad(Pastor) that I need new cymbals fam.  Right now I use a 14" B8 Thin Crash, a 16" "Zildjian" Planet Z crash, 20" Planet Z ride, and a 12" Wuhan China.  I got a Mapex Pro M in the beginning of January for Christmas, but the cymbals do NOT match the sound of the set...............................at all.....................
And i'm serious about being a musician but they wont help a brotha out.  It's the church's drums so the church should help me get new cymbals(do you agree?).

I gotta agree with the other brothers on this one. Most of the time, unless your Pastor is a musician, they won't understand the full ins and outs of being a musician and the equipment we use. So instead of trying to plead your case, be a blessing and purchase the cymbals you really want.
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Re: Need Help Convincin'............
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2007, 08:11:59 PM »
...and, even if they appreciate music, when it comes to the bottom line (read: $), it can be daunting for some.      For some churches, they don't see the drums as something that they should spend a lot of money on (sadly enough). 
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Re: Need Help Convincin'............
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2007, 08:12:08 PM »
yeah.................I feel you.  And somethin' just came to remembrance when I was typing this reply ;D ;D ;D.  Now I know i have nothin' to worry about, just be patient.  But sometimes I feel a little down when I go to some churches and they have those breath taking cymbals, like I did Friday night.     
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Re: Need Help Convincin'............
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2007, 08:13:53 PM »
Don't covet another man's (or wimmens - spelled that way on purpose) stuff.  Like you said, be patient, and you'll get yours in due time. 
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Re: Need Help Convincin'............
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2007, 08:16:19 PM »
Quote from: HumbleGospelDrummer on May 06, 2007, 07:49:14 PM
Yo I know just about all of yall went through this but mine is constant, i need some advice on convincin' my dad(Pastor) that I need new cymbals fam.  Right now I use a 14" B8 Thin Crash, a 16" "Zildjian" Planet Z crash, 20" Planet Z ride, and a 12" Wuhan China.  I got a Mapex Pro M in the beginning of January for Christmas, but the cymbals do NOT match the sound of the set...............................at all.....................
And i'm serious about being a musician but they wont help a brotha out.  It's the church's drums so the church should help me get new cymbals(do you agree?).

Man where in the world did you get those Planet Z's from. I don't even think Walmart sells those. You mean to tell me that they bought you a drumset for Christmas, but it's not really yours it's the church's?

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Re: Need Help Convincin'............
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2007, 08:17:03 PM »
LOL @ Wal*Mart!
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Re: Need Help Convincin'............
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2007, 08:32:20 PM »
Quote from: j_kay on May 06, 2007, 08:11:59 PM
...and, even if they appreciate music, when it comes to the bottom line (read: $), it can be daunting for some.      For some churches, they don't see the drums as something that they should spend a lot of money on (sadly enough). 

Yessir!!!! That's why, I just maintain the upkeep on our drums... not that our church wouldn't do it, but I just feel it's another way of giving back to the church, plus if I'm the main one playing it's only right. I kind of have it good, because my Pastor is a musician, so he understands.
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Re: Need Help Convincin'............
« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2007, 08:33:04 PM »
LOLLLLLLLLLLLL, naw bruh them cymbals from Payless or Adolfs or the store behind Lowes.  lol man i bent them the first night i received them.  my uncle was suppose to bring me some B8s a long time ago but brought some Planet Zs.
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Re: Need Help Convincin'............
« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2007, 08:42:24 PM »
Quote from: HumbleGospelDrummer on May 06, 2007, 08:33:04 PM
LOLLLLLLLLLLLL, naw bruh them cymbals from Payless or Adolfs or the store behind Lowes.  lol man i bent them the first night i received them.  my uncle was suppose to bring me some B8s a long time ago but brought some Planet Zs.

Man, I feel your pain. Them Planet Z's ain't no joke. B8's would be like a Hand Hammered series compared to those Z's. I completely understand how you feel, so I'll tell you what...

I have a Sabian 17" vault crash that I was planning on selling it. I'm not too fond of the sound. It sort of sounds like an A Custom and I hate A Customs. If you can come up with the delivery charge, I'll send you it as a blessing.  :)
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Re: Need Help Convincin'............
« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2007, 09:05:16 PM »
That's what's up - blessed to be a blessing! 
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Re: Need Help Convincin'............
« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2007, 09:30:36 PM »
And if you want another blessing...I got a whole Zildjian setup that I would be willing to part with at a pretty small price...
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Re: Need Help Convincin'............
« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2007, 09:44:20 PM »
Hey, thats what the LGM fam is all about...lol.... Man you got a good group of guys helpin you out man... Them Z's ain't nothin compared to the Solars for Sabian though....  :-\ :-X :o... lol.... Hey Humble just wait it out man, you will be blessed!! ;) :)
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Re: Need Help Convincin'............
« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2007, 10:40:13 PM »
This is tight man... LGM drummers helping fam out!
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Re: Need Help Convincin'............
« Reply #16 on: May 07, 2007, 12:48:50 AM »
Quote from: Eccentric-Rhythm on May 06, 2007, 09:30:36 PM
And if you want another blessing...I got a whole Zildjian setup that I would be willing to part with at a pretty small price...


Do tell....Oh wait...what will my Sabians think????....
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Re: Need Help Convincin'............
« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2007, 10:05:06 PM »
Quote from: yamahaboy on May 06, 2007, 09:44:20 PM
Hey Humble just wait it out man, you will be blessed!! ;) :)

fa sho man ;D ;D
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Re: Need Help Convincin'............
« Reply #18 on: May 07, 2007, 10:06:30 PM »
Quote from: BIGKU on May 06, 2007, 08:32:20 PM
Yessir!!!! That's why, I just maintain the upkeep on our drums... not that our church wouldn't do it, but I just feel it's another way of giving back to the church, plus if I'm the main one playing it's only right. I kind of have it good, because my Pastor is a musician, so he understands.

man this post is deep, cuz most musicians wouldnt do it, when school is over imma get a job and help the church out.
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Re: Need Help Convincin'............
« Reply #19 on: May 07, 2007, 10:08:17 PM »
Man..................i dont know what to say, i was feeling a little down today but seeing this made me feel better, thanks yall :D
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