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Re: Hymns..are they important????........... Oh yes they are!!!!
« Reply #80 on: May 31, 2007, 10:10:22 AM »
Quote from: THE WOLFMAN on May 31, 2007, 10:05:14 AM

GET READY, GET READY, GET READY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WE GOT TO MOVE ON, BUT JUST TAKE 30 SECONDS AND....UUUUUUPPP!!


Ha..Haha...Ha...We gotta move, we gotta move...Put me in Ab my leg feels like running.


Quote from: iplaytheorgan2 on May 31, 2007, 10:07:04 AM
Awigh't guys.... I get the hint.  ::) LOL!!

It's all Love.....LOL
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Re: Hymns..are they important????........... Oh yes they are!!!!
« Reply #81 on: May 31, 2007, 10:11:16 AM »
Quote from: THE WOLFMAN on May 31, 2007, 10:05:14 AM

GET READY, GET READY, GET READY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WE GOT TO MOVE ON, BUT JUST TAKE 30 SECONDS AND....UUUUUUPPP!!

WELL JAMES HALL WOULD SAY "LEAP FOR IT"!! HEYYYY...... REEEEBEBEBOSHUNDO
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Re: Hymns..are they important????........... Oh yes they are!!!!
« Reply #82 on: May 31, 2007, 10:14:25 AM »
Quote from: iplaytheorgan2 on May 31, 2007, 10:11:16 AM
WELL JAMES HALL WOULD SAY "LEAP FOR IT"!! HEYYYY...... REEEEBEBEBOSHUNDO


PWWAAAHHAHHAA Yea, he would!!! :D ;D :D
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Re: Hymns..are they important????........... Oh yes they are!!!!
« Reply #83 on: May 31, 2007, 10:15:44 AM »
Quote from: iplaytheorgan2 on May 31, 2007, 10:11:16 AM
WELL JAMES HALL WOULD SAY "LEAP FOR IT"!! HEYYYY...... REEEEBEBEBOSHUNDO[size=20pt][/size]


That does sound like a Dr. Kevin Bond tongue.....
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Re: Hymns..are they important????........... Oh yes they are!!!!
« Reply #84 on: May 31, 2007, 10:24:28 AM »
Let tell ya'll somethin... You gotta be in a live service with either James Hall and Citadel or Worship and Praise.  When Kevin Bond hits those tongues..... It's ovaaa!!!  HEYYYY GLOWRAYYY!!!
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Re: Hymns..are they important????........... Oh yes they are!!!!
« Reply #85 on: May 31, 2007, 10:32:36 AM »
Yall are sick....Yall are spelling out peoples tounges....HAHAHAHA...Shabba!!!!
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Re: Hymns..are they important????........... Oh yes they are!!!!
« Reply #86 on: May 31, 2007, 10:35:53 AM »
Quote from: iplaytheorgan2 on May 31, 2007, 10:24:28 AM
Let tell ya'll somethin... You gotta be in a live service with either James Hall and Citadel or Worship and Praise.  When Kevin Bond hits those tongues..... It's ovaaa!!!  HEYYYY GLOWRAYYY!!!


I believe you!! :D :D
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Re: Hymns..are they important????........... Oh yes they are!!!!
« Reply #87 on: May 31, 2007, 01:02:11 PM »
Ok... now that we got our praise on... should we close this topic out?  I'm a newcomer, "where do we go from here"??   :o ?/? ::)
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Re: Hymns..are they important????........... Oh yes they are!!!!
« Reply #88 on: May 31, 2007, 01:05:05 PM »
Topics never end around here...They get Hi Jacked....Kinda like what yall did...lol...Congrats on helping Hi jack your own thread lol
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Re: Hymns..are they important????........... Oh yes they are!!!!
« Reply #89 on: May 31, 2007, 01:06:25 PM »
Quote from: iplaytheorgan2 on May 31, 2007, 01:02:11 PM
Ok... now that we got our praise on... should we close this topic out?  I'm a newcomer, "where do we go from here"??   :o ?/? ::)
If no one answers it just go down the list. But if you want to continue, just keep posting. If you want another subject, of course, just start a new topic :)
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Re: Hymns..are they important????........... Oh yes they are!!!!
« Reply #90 on: May 31, 2007, 01:11:33 PM »
Thanks ddw4e for the knowledge  :)  I really enjoy conversing with you guys.  Be blessed and stay blessed.
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Re: Hymns..are they important????........... Oh yes they are!!!!
« Reply #91 on: May 31, 2007, 03:00:30 PM »
Quote from: iplaytheorgan2 on May 31, 2007, 01:02:11 PM
Ok... now that we got our praise on... should we close this topic out?  I'm a newcomer, "where do we go from here"??   :o ?/? ::)

make sure you bring some bbq for the grill....
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Re: Hymns..are they important????........... Oh yes they are!!!!
« Reply #92 on: May 31, 2007, 03:37:34 PM »
Quote from: iplaytheorgan2 on May 31, 2007, 01:11:33 PM
Thanks ddw4e for the knowledge  :)  I really enjoy conversing with you guys.  Be blessed and stay blessed.
Likewise!! And please come back LOL! :)
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Re: Hymns..are they important????........... Oh yes they are!!!!
« Reply #93 on: June 01, 2007, 02:51:01 PM »
alright wolfman I got the ribs.....

ddw4e I ain't goin nowhere. 

I'll be talkin to guys in the other topics. 

It's the weekend now and I got a couple of calls to play for some services, and I'm busy all day Sunday, HEY!!! Praise Gawd for the increase... GLOWRAY!!!  I was a little broke this week.... LOL :D ;D
I'll talk to ya'll next week.
Be blessed
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Re: Hymns..are they important????........... Oh yes they are!!!!
« Reply #94 on: June 01, 2007, 03:19:49 PM »
Quote from: iplaytheorgan2 on June 01, 2007, 02:51:01 PM
alright wolfman I got the ribs.....

ddw4e I ain't goin nowhere. 

I'll be talkin to guys in the other topics. 

It's the weekend now and I got a couple of calls to play for some services, and I'm busy all day Sunday, HEY!!! Praise Gawd for the increase... GLOWRAY!!!  I was a little broke this week.... LOL :D ;D
I'll talk to ya'll next week.
Be blessed
See..You are definitely cool with me! You have a blessed weekend and next week we negotiate on that MKS20 alright?! (I saw that in a vision...probably was a dream instead :D)
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Re: Hymns..are they important????........... Oh yes they are!!!!
« Reply #95 on: June 01, 2007, 05:13:39 PM »
Quote from: ddw4e on June 01, 2007, 03:19:49 PM
See..You are definitely cool with me! You have a blessed weekend and next week we negotiate on that MKS20 alright?! (I saw that in a vision...probably was a dream instead :D)

Yup... you were dreamin... you were "I Dream of Jeanie" dreamin... LOL LOL  :D :D
You have a blessed weekend also.
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Re: Hymns..are they important????........... Oh yes they are!!!!
« Reply #96 on: June 01, 2007, 06:48:41 PM »
Quote from: iplaytheorgan2 on June 01, 2007, 05:13:39 PM
Yup... you were dreamin... you were "I Dream of Jeanie" dreamin... LOL LOL  :D :D
You have a blessed weekend also.


PWWAAAHHAHAHAHAHA 'I Dream of Jeanie' PWWWWAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
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Re: Hymns..are they important????........... Oh yes they are!!!!
« Reply #97 on: June 01, 2007, 08:56:07 PM »
Quote from: iplaytheorgan2 on June 01, 2007, 05:13:39 PM
Yup... you were dreamin... you were "I Dream of Jeanie" dreamin... LOL LOL  :D :D
You have a blessed weekend also.
LOL!!!! You do the same!
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Re: Hymns..are they important????........... Oh yes they are!!!!
« Reply #98 on: June 02, 2007, 05:13:10 AM »
Wow hot topic I only read the first page but i noticed it got hijacked
i want to comment on the first page


one thing nobody really mentioned
or some people mismentioned
is that

it really is not about simple chords and complex chords

it is different chords

some of the chords that are used in hymns are just as strange and unfamiliar as some of the so called complex chords
for example although sometimes the traditional hymn doesent utilize complex upper structures like 9ths and 13th chords

but they do utilize big stretches in the left hand
often tenths are employed
sophisticated bass walking
octave melody in the right hand
sixths and thirds runs in the right hand
fast octave appeggios
german b6th  chords
italian 6th chords french #4th chords

listen to james cleveland and you will see that there is very little simplicity there.

or listen to Thomas whitfield play a hymn and you will see how to new school an old school hymn


but to be honest with you the so called complex chords arent really complex at all
not the way  A lot of the  young cats are approaching them anyway

most of the chords the young guys are playing are poly chords which is why they sound so sophisticated
but the young guy is just saying g to himself

ok C tritone  with a dmajor chord

or C tritone with an f# triad

etc

probably not everybody but a lot


the hymns are simpler in structure but require a good deal of dexterity with inversions and a different feel to bring them accross


most cats play by ear but there are several cd's that are hymn specific


one thing that has really rescued me is my knowledge of theory that allowed me to dig into the hymns and be able to play them

I will be honest I dont know them all
but I can quickly turn to the page and play

sometimes i can even transpose the hymn on the fly by quickly scanning the bass movement..


hymns I think are a staple and if your church doesent sing them

unless it is because your pastor doesent want to hear them
then it is up to the musician to introduce some

there are some beautiful hymns that can stand with any praise and worship song
so being ain a church that doesent sing hymns is not really a reason for not learning them

because as the musician you there to educate and lead the worship service.

just like in my church which is an older traditional congregation

i have to teach them to embrace praise and worship songs

it is hard but they do it
because they know i am the leader


now even though I play hymns when I hear someone like sam or ezra buford play them i am humbled because i recognize I am missing something for real .

there are many sources out there for people who want to learn
so i dont even go in for the the older cats arent sharing

Ethel Caffie austin has a dvd and she gives an excellent course on how to play hymns on the piano,

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Re: Hymns..are they important????........... Oh yes they are!!!!
« Reply #99 on: June 03, 2007, 05:25:24 AM »
Gata jump in on this one too. Hymns are just as important as any other church music.
It's interesting that folk will sing the lyrics real well to any given popluar contemporary gospel. ex. I call you faithful, Bless me indeed, Hezekiah's faithful to name a few. Yet when a hymn is called out most people start mumblin' or jus plain ole shut up.

Another aspect I'd like to call attention to is people believe that all hymns are sanctified...well they sanctified now.  There are a few hymns that were actually love songs sung in bars and saloons that found their way into the hymnal. When they were brought into the church during the middle ages church folk frowned on them. But God "cleaned them up" and we now sing them!
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