Topic: Hymns..are they important????........... Oh yes they are!!!! (Read 23931 times)

berbie · « **Reply #40 on:** May 29, 2007, 11:17:28 PM »

Jeez, I would never bump a person off the piano stool while he/she was trying to pick up a song for a singer. That, in my opinion, is gross, arrogant, ill mannered and low brow. If the person were to ask me, or look around for assistance, then I would help. Maybe it takes the person a brief period to catch the key or rhythm of the song. I love good playing and singing. I love to play the piano and have a good spiritual time. I love the compliments that I get sometimes when I play well. But it is all about praising the Lord. I can't hurt people's feelings or disrespect them over a song. We don't pull a singer off the stage cause they are changing keys, jumping rhythm, or not singing in accordance with our playig abilities. It is about the words and the spirit anyway, not the performance. The singer could do something real drastic before singing: ask the musician if they were comfortable playing that song in that key.

berbie

iplaytheorgan2 · « **Reply #41 on:** May 29, 2007, 11:28:31 PM »

Yes I totally agree with you on that. But I've been in situations where musicians were trying to figure out a song and the Soloist is looking crazy. The song was pretty much becoming a "car wreck". So what I do is either get on another keyboard and help the song along, or ask the musician can I assist and I just slide on. I would never just push someone off, because I remember how it felt when I got bumped off in my learning years. It's a horrible feeling. Jesus said, "with love and kindness".

Raspberry07 · « **Reply #42 on:** May 29, 2007, 11:59:57 PM »

Hymns means you supposely PRASING GOD so yes THEY are IMPORTANT!!!!!!

adaria · « **Reply #43 on:** May 30, 2007, 12:11:16 AM »

There is no discrepancy regarding the importance of hymns, but for some reason, I don't hear a lot of hymns sang in churches I've recently attended...although I do see a lot of dusty hymnals in the church pews. Kinda sad huh? You know, I hear a lot of the
Dr. Watts genre of Christian music as a replacement for hymns in the deep southern-style black churches.
I wonder if this is dependent upon the characteristics of a church family to how one responds towards singing hymns?
Moreso, could it be the difference of predominantly young adult congregation vs. a traditional/maturely-aged church congregation?
What do ya'll think?

porkpiepoppa · « **Reply #44 on:** May 30, 2007, 12:55:17 AM »

weeeelll... im still in my learning phase and my gpa... (my pastor) sings them OOOOOLL school hymns well to me it is like"i need thee" and songs like that my uncle(the real organist) if he sees me struggling hell ask if i need help or hell hop on the keyboard and tell me the progressions i know thats not good to what yall sayin but... i feel its better u learn from experience..for instance i practiced preacher chords MONTHS before i acutally used um in a service its a whole different ball park so i feel what u guys are sayin about not knowin the song ruining it.... but at the same time... your not gonna learn from jus practicing the song by urself now if u got someone that will sing for you in a rehearsal you got it MADDDEEE god bless and pray for me that i get better...

ifiwereu · « **Reply #45 on:** May 30, 2007, 04:26:48 AM »

This is like sayin' is breakfast important.

Just as I a am with out one plea, but tha at thy blood was shed for me....No need to go in depth on this.

iplaytheorgan2 · « **Reply #46 on:** May 30, 2007, 09:02:38 AM »

In response to you Adaria, it's the sign of the times. Because of where Gospel music is going, young adult choirs and even some senior choirs are leaning towards what they buy or hear on the radio. Yes, we have to stay current, but we cannot loose focus of where we came from.

Every first Sunday, our P & W Team does ole skool testamonial songs and hymns. We've been doing that for at least 5 years. This helps our young people to learn and know where the new skool came from.

I hated then, but my mother made take lessons, so I've been reading music my whole life. I have an advantage over my peers who play by ear and have nice progressions. I can read a hymn and enhance it with my ear. That way I don't stray to far away from how it is written.

I suggest to all musicians learn how to read music and by a hymn book, thumb through it and find some familiars you have heard and try to play them. You will take yourself to another level in your ministry. You can use LGM or other websites to help you learn to read, or do what I use to do, go to the music store and by books on chords, progressions and scales. YOU CAN DO IT!

sjonathan02 · « **Reply #47 on:** May 30, 2007, 09:12:20 AM »

Quote from: iplaytheorgan2 on May 30, 2007, 09:02:38 AM

In response to you Adaria, it's the sign of the times. Because of where Gospel music is going, young adult choirs and even some senior choirs are leaning towards what they buy or hear on the radio. Yes, we have to stay current, but we cannot loose focus of where we came from.

Every first Sunday, our P & W Team does ole skool testamonial songs and hymns. We've been doing that for at least 5 years. This helps our young people to learn and know where the new skool came from.

I hated then, but my mother made take lessons, so I've been reading music my whole life. I have an advantage over my peers who play by ear and have nice progressions. I can read a hymn and enhance it with my ear. That way I don't stray to far away from how it is written.

I suggest to all musicians learn how to read music and by a hymn book, thumb through it and find some familiars you have heard and try to play them. You will take yourself to another level in your ministry. You can use LGM or other websites to help you learn to read, or do what I use to do, go to the music store and by books on chords, progressions and scales. YOU CAN DO IT!

So, this isn't necessarily a commentary on the importance of hymns, but rather, a commentary on the need to be able to read, as well as, play by ear?

iplaytheorgan2 · « **Reply #48 on:** May 30, 2007, 09:17:50 AM »

I don't know... I guess it takes all of the above to be a well-rounded musician. What do you think sjon, shed some knowledge on the situation.

sjonathan02 · « **Reply #49 on:** May 30, 2007, 09:26:42 AM »

Quote from: iplaytheorgan2 on May 30, 2007, 09:17:50 AM

I don't know... I guess it takes all of the above to be a well-rounded musician. What do you think sjon, shed some knowledge on the situation.

As I stated earlier, it takes the ability to play what one hears coupled with understanding where to play what one hears. I can hear an Eb9#11 all day; but if I don't know WHERE to place it, it does me no good.

As for the knowledge of hymns, our history will always be important. It is also important to note that we aren't in those times anymore and should progress to where we are and beyond. The Bible does record 'forgetting those things which are behind me, I press on 'towards' the goal of the high calling', does it not; wouldn't this qualify?

Again, for the sake of order, one shouldn't be able to play an Eb9#11 without being able to play an Eb triad.

THE WOLFMAN · « **Reply #50 on:** May 30, 2007, 09:29:38 AM »

Quote from: sjonathan02 on May 30, 2007, 09:26:42 AM

As for the knowledge of hymns, our history will always be important. It is also important to note that we aren't in those times anymore and should progress to where we are and beyond. The Bible does record 'forgetting those things which are behind me, I presss 'towards' the mark of the high calling', does it not; wouldn't this qualify?

*shabba*

iplaytheorgan2 · « **Reply #51 on:** May 30, 2007, 09:43:06 AM »

I respect your views sjon, but hymns are still so so much a apart of the worship experience. Hymns are apart of the "higher calling". Hymns will always be apart of the "mark".

I don't know... I guess I've just been in too many services and concerts, and seen people set free, delivered and ministered to through the singing of a hymn, especially when it's played and sung with the anointing. I"m talkin now, 2007, hymns are very much alive in our area.

sjonathan02 · « **Reply #52 on:** May 30, 2007, 09:54:58 AM »

Quote from: iplaytheorgan2 on May 30, 2007, 09:43:06 AM

I respect your views sjon, but hymns are still so so much a apart of the worship experience. Hymns are apart of the "higher calling". Hymns will always be apart of the "mark".

I don't know... I guess I've just been in too many services and concerts, and seen people set free, delivered and ministered to through the singing of a hymn, especially when it's played and sung with the anointing. I"m talkin now, 2007, hymns are very much alive in our area.

Because it's the educator in me You do realize that by using that conjunction, 'but', it implies that you actually don't respect my views.

My mother was an English teacher

To continue, I would submit that anything, ANYTHING done under the anointing can set people free, deliver and minister to them. I've seen all types of music do that very thing. To relegate it to just hymns is putting a limit on God, no?

THE WOLFMAN · « **Reply #53 on:** May 30, 2007, 10:07:34 AM »

Quote from: sjonathan02 on May 30, 2007, 09:54:58 AM

My mother was an English teacher

ya moms was an english teacher, and ya pops was jamaican?

OH THE COMEDY.

Pops: "'Mi a' go dung a' di' store....yuh waan' sum'min?"
Moms:"Lord! Will you PLEASE speak english!
Pops: " 'Ooman, 'ow yuh mean? Is english mi' a' chat! De King's bruk-up english! Chuh!"

sjonathan02 · « **Reply #54 on:** May 30, 2007, 10:12:16 AM »

Quote from: THE WOLFMAN on May 30, 2007, 10:07:34 AM

ya moms was an english teacher, and ya pops was jamaican?

OH THE COMEDY.

Pops: "'Mi a' go dung a' di' store....yuh waan' sum'min?"
Moms:"Lord! Will you PLEASE speak english!
Pops: " 'Ooman, 'ow yuh mean? Is english mi' a' chat! De King's bruk-up english! Chuh!"

Actually, my mother loves my dad's accent. And, she understands every word.

iplaytheorgan2 · « **Reply #55 on:** May 30, 2007, 10:17:38 AM »

Oh noooo... I'm not saying that. Sjon I think you are misunderstanding what I'm trying to say. I'm just trying to specify the importance of hymns and being somewhat familiar with them. God's anointing can fall and rest in any form of Gospel or religious music.

And Wolfman, you are hillarious... LOL

THANKS I NEEDED THAT

THE WOLFMAN · « **Reply #56 on:** May 30, 2007, 10:24:24 AM »

Quote from: iplaytheorgan2 on May 30, 2007, 10:17:38 AM

And Wolfman, you are hillarious... LOL THANKS I NEEDED THAT

aha, apparently u speak coconut-ese....

iplaytheorgan2 · « **Reply #57 on:** May 30, 2007, 10:27:56 AM »

just a little... mon... Me gotta alota friends that are from the islands and south america

iplaytheorgan2 · « **Reply #58 on:** May 30, 2007, 10:34:31 AM »

Sjon, it's all gud, we can agree to disagree. You're my brother and I luv ya.

Hey you got any clips of you playing. I would love to check you out.

sjonathan02 · « **Reply #59 on:** May 30, 2007, 10:45:41 AM »

Quote from: iplaytheorgan2 on May 30, 2007, 10:34:31 AM

Sjon, it's all gud, we can agree to disagree. You're my brother and I luv ya.

Hey you got any clips of you playing. I would love to check you out.

PWWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! SHE ASKED FOR CLIPS OF ME

a. I'm just a beginner at this thing called playin' keyboard. I'm a choir specialistMeaning, you need a stong tenor in your group, I'm yo' man.

b. I'm just a beginner at this thing called computers Meaning, I ain't got no webcam and stuff like dat, I just got a computer a year ago.

c. I'm shy. No jokes from NONE OF YA!!!

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