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Offline yamahaboy

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I dont know what to do!!
« on: July 01, 2007, 01:50:43 PM »
My Snare Drum keep detuning like crazy... It will stay at the disired tuning for a couple songs or so, then its starts to sound super flat... Then wrinkles start to appear... Is it something inside the drum that is causing this rapid detuning?... I am getting fed up with this snare... I sounds exellent but it has some quality issues... The tension rods acually loosin to the point where they almost come out completly... :-\ Some body give me some advise because I really don't want to have to give up the drum....
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Re: I dont know what to do!!
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2007, 02:50:22 PM »
...sounds like you need tuning locks. 
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Re: I dont know what to do!!
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2007, 03:46:12 PM »
*Suggesting possible problems*

-Your tuning is off

-Your bearing edge is not level or warped/ Poor quality lugs/ Poor craftsmanship

-Your accuracy is so impeccable that every time you strike "dead center" each rod slightly detunes ;D ;)


*Possible solutions*

-Adjust your tuning (only if you think that's the problem of course ;) )

-Get a NEW (better;)) snare

-Teach me your technique!!!  ;D ;D ;D
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Re: I dont know what to do!!
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2007, 03:49:27 PM »
Quote from: teflonminds88 on July 01, 2007, 03:46:12 PM
*Suggesting possible problems*

-Your tuning is off

-Your bearing edge is not level or warped/ Poor quality lugs/ Poor craftsmanship

-Your accuracy is so impeccable that every time you strike "dead center" each rod slightly detunes ;D ;)


*Possible solutions*

-Adjust your tuning (only if you think that's the problem of course ;) )

-Get a NEW (better;)) snare

-Teach me your technique!!!  ;D ;D ;D

LoL you crazy man!! I am going to try all methods.... Maybe tuning locks are the key... No point intended...lol... ;D :D ;) Just a little drum humor for ya!!
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Re: I dont know what to do!!
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2007, 05:12:50 PM »
Man....just do the trade with your friend for the cymbals and all the other stuff....lol...GB
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Re: You killin' us with this Musashi, man...
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2007, 05:48:07 PM »
Man, just throw some die casts on it and call it a life! 



If you have the six lug design, you're in good company, since you can get them from my posted URL.  If not, you may have to do some searching on the web or your local music store.  Here is the URL: http://www.interstatemusic.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10001&storeId=10051&langId=-1&productId=900025552
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Re: I dont know what to do!!
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2007, 06:32:26 PM »
Will the Die Cast hoops open up the sound a little bit more...?.... I was thinking about also putting some PureSound wires and a Ambassador snare side on it also because the bottom of the drum is stock...
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Re: I dont know what to do!!
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2007, 06:34:59 PM »
Quote from: soul_drummer on July 01, 2007, 05:12:50 PM
Man....just do the trade with your friend for the cymbals and all the other stuff....lol...GB

You crazy man!!...lol.... If I had a Job them It would be a different story man... I would be able to make the trade plus buy another Musashi and then have to snares and some extra cymbals...lol.... Gosh I wish I was indorsed!! ;D :D
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Re: I dont know what to do!!
« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2007, 06:57:01 PM »
Quote from: yamahaboy on July 01, 2007, 06:32:26 PM
Will the Die Cast hoops open up the sound a little bit more?

Die cast hoops will focus the sound of the drum, and is less susceptible to detuning. 
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Re: I dont know what to do!!
« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2007, 06:58:50 PM »
Quote from: yamahaboy on July 01, 2007, 06:34:59 PM
You crazy man!!...lol.... If I had a Job them It would be a different story man... I would be able to make the trade plus buy another Musashi and then have to snares and some extra cymbals...lol.... Gosh I wish I was indorsed!! ;D :D

Until then, just do what us 'regular' folk do: Save up until you are able to get what you want (or need). 

And, it's endorsed.  :)
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Re: I dont know what to do!!
« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2007, 07:07:59 PM »
Endorsed ;D spelling error my fault... They dont have the 8 hole hoops J Kay... Will the Die Cast hoops give it a deeper sound also?

The funny thing is, that is took detuning for me to find the sweet spot of the snare... It had a clear pop but still had the depth I was looking for.. :o.. I just wish It would stay that way....
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Re: I dont know what to do!!
« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2007, 07:17:22 PM »
The deeper sound will come from your tuning, and the range in which your drum will be able to handle. 

Regarding the eight holes, try searching for some - that is, if you are interested in using a die cast hoop for the batter (side). 
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Re: I dont know what to do!!
« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2007, 07:55:19 PM »
Quote from: j_kay on July 01, 2007, 07:17:22 PM
The deeper sound will come from your tuning, and the range in which your drum will be able to handle. 

Regarding the eight holes, try searching for some - that is, if you are interested in using a die cast hoop for the batter (side). 

Yeah I am thats why I asked because I was thinking about buying some but I didnt know how they would sound on my drum!!
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Re: I dont know what to do!!
« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2007, 09:44:42 PM »
Quote from: yamahaboy on July 01, 2007, 07:55:19 PM
Yeah I am thats why I asked because I was thinking about buying some but I didnt know how they would sound on my drum!!

a cheaper way to solve the problem of detuning on the Musashi or any snare is swithch the metal washers for plastic.
the second cheapest is plastic tuning locks.
the third is a lil more expensive and that's the tunerz rods from DW.

I have the 12" Musashi 4yrs now and the plastic washers worked for me.
Die cast hoops will help because they are more rigid. They take the pitch up a bit but your tuning will be more consistent however your tuning range will get slightly smaller because of the rigidness of the hoops.
I suggest getting the S-Hoop to keep the tuning range and add rigidity at the same time instead of die-cast.
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Re: I dont know what to do!!
« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2007, 09:06:30 AM »
Quote from: SabianKnight on July 01, 2007, 09:44:42 PM
a cheaper way to solve the problem of detuning on the Musashi or any snare is swithch the metal washers for plastic.
the second cheapest is plastic tuning locks.
the third is a lil more expensive and that's the tunerz rods from DW.

I have the 12" Musashi 4yrs now and the plastic washers worked for me.
Die cast hoops will help because they are more rigid. They take the pitch up a bit but your tuning will be more consistent however your tuning range will get slightly smaller because of the rigidness of the hoops.
I suggest getting the S-Hoop to keep the tuning range and add rigidity at the same time instead of die-cast.

Thanks dude.. I have heard of plastic washers but I didn't want to spend moey on them and they not work!!...  :)
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Re: I dont know what to do!!
« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2007, 04:31:38 PM »
Quote from: yamahaboy on July 02, 2007, 09:06:30 AM
Thanks dude.. I have heard of plastic washers but I didn't want to spend moey on them and they not work!!...  :)

How cheap do they have to be for you to part with your money? ;D
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Re: Yamaha Plastic Washers. Just use product number WS-PLAS.
« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2007, 05:08:10 PM »
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Re: I dont know what to do!!
« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2007, 05:50:25 PM »
Quote from: fretai03 on July 02, 2007, 04:31:38 PM
How cheap do they have to be for you to part with your money? ;D

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Re: I dont know what to do!!
« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2007, 06:42:01 PM »
I aint completly broke, im just want something in a reasonable price range.... The most expensive thing i would resort to is new hoops ans thats as far as im going.... :) ;)
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