WHITE PEOPLE

[J31]

I RECEIVED THIS EMAIL AND UMM...... YEAH WELL THE TRUTH IS THE TRUTH.

Can't Blame White People

by Bill Cosby

They're standing on the corner and they can't speak English.   

I can't even talk the way these people talk:   

Why you ain't,   

Where you is,   

What he drive,   

Where he stay,   

Where he work,   

Who you be...   

And I blamed the kid until I heard the mother  talk.   

And then I heard the father talk.   

Everybody knows it's important to speak English...   

except these knuckleheads.

Mushmouth is what they speak!

You can't be a doctor with that kind of crap coming out of your mouth.   

In fact you will never get any kind of job making a decent living.   

People marched and were hit in the face with rocks to get an education,

and now we've got these knuckleheads throwing that all away.

The lower economic people are not holding up their end in this deal.   

These people are not parenting.   

They are buying things for kids--$500 sneakers for what?   

And they won't spend $200 for Hooked on Phonics.   

I am talking about these people who cry

when their son is standing there in an orange  suit.   

Where were you when he was 2?   

Where were you when he was 12?   

Where were you when he was 18?

And, how come you didn't know that he had a pistol?   

And where is the father?   

Or who is his father?   

People putting their clothes on backward:   

Isn't that a sign of something gone wrong?   

People with their hats on backward,

pants down around the crack,

isn't that a sign of something?

They're walking around with their nasty underwear showing, and

holding onto their pants to keep them from falling to the  ground!   

Or are you waiting for Jesus to pull his pants up?   

Isn't it a sign of something

when she has her dress all the way up to her panty  line,

and got all types of needle piercings

going through her body?   

What part of Africa  did this come from?

We are not Africans.   

Those people are not Africans;

they don't know a thing about Africa .   

With names like Shaniqua, Taliqua and Mohammed and all of that crap, and all of them are in jail.   

Brown or black versus the Board of Education

is no longer the white person's problem.   

We have got to take the neighborhood back.   

People used to be ashamed.   

Today a woman has eight children

with eight different 'husbands' --

or men or whatever you call them now.   

We have millionaire football players

who cannot read.   

We have million-dollar basketball players

who can't write two paragraphs.   

We as black folks have to do a better job.   

Someone working at Wal-Mart

with seven kids saying...

you are hurting us.   

We have to start holding each other

to a higher standard.   

We cannot blame the white people any longer.   

It is not for media or anyone of this time

anymore to say whether I'm right or wrong.

It is time, ladies and gentlemen,

to look at the numbers.   

Fifty percent of our children are dropping out

of high school.

Sixty percent of the incarcerated males

happen to be illiterate. There's a correlation.   

Tell  the media to stop asking me what I think about people who don't  believe what I'm saying or feel that I'm too harsh or feel that I'm  just running my mouth because I'm old.

Seventy percent of the teenagers pregnant happen to be African American girls.   

Don't ask me to soften my message.   

Bill Cosby


** I do think that if we raise the standard regardless to what opression may exit ( and it does) we can overcome it***

[MissRiss]

What can you say? Everyone knows the problems of the Black Community. I don't have a problem with Bill saying those things. We are in denial with a lot of our problems. However, it is always easier to point out the problems. I want to hear some solutions!!!

[csedwards2]

What can you say? Everyone knows the problems of the Black Community. I don't have a problem with Bill saying those things. We are in denial with a lot of our problems. However, it is always easier to point out the problems. I want to hear some solutions!!!

I believe Cosby has more than paid his dues to provide solutions; but what will we do?

[TheNewMusiQ]

You know as harsh a reality is this may be, the sad thing is that he's 100% right on all these points, and frankly only a life sold out and committed to Christ fixes these problems. We have peaple who give thier eight year olds cell phones, who buy their 16 year old, 50,000 dollar cars, like they know how to take care of it and half the time they dont even deserve it. Take for instance; look at Carlos Slim, Warren Buffet, and Bill Gates, these are the three riches men in the world, look at them closely; No bling, very modestly dressed, maybe an expensive car here and there, though they may live in very nice homes, but the thing here is that they got their education and dont take money lightly, i mean im sadden at this, but we honestly have to do better. Sorry to say but if someone was to give a black uneduacted man 3 billion dollars, what do we think he would spend it on, maybe i'll start a thread.

[churchyreal]

What can you say? Everyone knows the problems of the Black Community. I don't have a problem with Bill saying those things. We are in denial with a lot of our problems. However, it is always easier to point out the problems. I want to hear some solutions!!!

Amen!!! Too much talk about the problems in the church and black community. Let's start finding ways to solve these problems!!!

[ddw4e]

Amen!!! Too much talk about the problems in the church and black community. Let's start finding ways to solve these problems!!!

Co-Sign!!

[sjonathan02]

Amen!!! Too much talk about the problems in the church and black community. Let's start finding ways to solve these problems!!!

New Musiq just gave you a few. 

[BBoy]

The solutions are quite simple. We just don't want to do it. Parents, make your children go to school. Teachers, teach. Students learn or get out of the way so you don't hinder those who do want to learn.

I'll be very honest, I'm quite tired of talking about solutions. Sometimes I go to university conferences where we discuss minorities in higher education, and it results in nothing but talk. People leave the same way they came, if not more confused.

It is usually a fashion show and a chance to go "ooooo" and "ahhhhhhh" at those of us who have prayed and been blessed, fought and struggled to complete advanced degrees. Then people want to ask how to do what we did, and when we say "Leave the step show, come out of the block party, work harder and study harder," they just brush that aside. People leave having missed the entire point.

I just want to help those who want to do better, do better.

Just my 2 cents.

Be Blessed, everyone

[ministerofworship]

It seems that most of the problems are family and church centered.  The solution is very simple.  Train up a child in the way he should go, and when he is old he won't depart from it.  When you "train" you lead by example.  Children duplicate what they see.  All this mess started at the h-o-u-s-e.  Love starts at home and is spread abroad.  Remeber when mama's said, "what you do at home you'll do abroad."  There were times that you would get your whipping where you messed up at, now there's not authority (father) in the homes.  It starts at home.   

[Furious Styles]

Bboy's point is actually more eloquent than the words of Cosby. Cosby's statement is a very general in nature marred with ignorance, devisiveness, and stereotypes. There are people of all racial backgrounds that can fit those descriptions. The problem with American education is that there is still a disparity between the working class and the elite. Of course this shouldn't be much of a suprise considering that throughout the history of mankind's misapporpriation of resources among different classes. So honestly the proverbial solution doesn't really exist.

Most intellectual eggheads fail to realize the complex paradigm of subjugating people groups. The degenerate, poor and working class serve the powerful minority of the wealthy.  Bboy's points are more eloquent because he is expounding on the unwillingness of a population of students to put in the work that it takes to achieve at the highest level. This isn't just an issue among "black" students however white students know that "whiteness" historically has allowed them to walk through doors traditionally closed to "blackness". Individual achievement, responsibility, and merit is defined and experienced differently in most cases for blacks. When blacks are high achievers it is viewed as an anomally. When whites succeed it is expected and viewed as the norm. When they both fail it is definetly expected for the black and pity for the white.

So we are still working against a system that is flawed but the opportunites for blacks are there more than ever and we must walk through the open doors. Everyone will not enter into the kingdom of God so how in the world do we expect for every person of every race to have success in life? WE must destroy the ideal of one group of people being judged by the actions of others. That's the real issue. Why can't Cosby see that? Honorary PHD's I tell ya..

[gtrdave]

Somebody call for "white people"? 

I'm actually kinda pink...fleshy...brown hair... 

Cosby is upset. He's frustrated. If that monologue is truly from him then it sounds to me like he's just plain fed up with how things are and would rather just state what he sees as the obvious in the hopes that someone that he might be targeting would read/hear it and go "Oh yeah, you're right. Maybe I should stop doing x, y, and z..."

Sometimes it's easier for people to complain and think that they're helping things rather than offer productive recommendations on how to actually help things. I'm guilty of this and I'm not proud of it.

Ministerofworship hit it, I think.
"Train up a child..."
If the teacher possesses the mind of Christ, the student will benefit greatly. If not...Well, I think we're seeing the effects of "not" all around us in every community and across every race.

[chessoriginal]

Funny we were just talking about this in Bible study yesterday. As "ministerofworship" said, I think that the only way to solve this "problem" is to target the source..which is the home and the parents. That is the only way this problem can be resolved. If kids do not have any values to go by that they got from home then they are free to do what they want, since they wouldn't know whats right and whats wrong. It's hard to teach someone anything when they keep saying "you aint my mother/father", or when they say that my parents are ok with it why should you care. So I think it all goes back to the home and the parents. If the parents can be reached then the children themselves would start to change. But of course we know that is not always practical and sometimes the only thing we can do is pray for them and try to get as many of them to church. Thats why it is important to make the church as welcoming and friendly as possible
I'm from Africa myself and sometimes i find it really a disgrace hearing some people calling themselves African Americans because they most certainly don't act like Africans. I'm not saying that all Africans are good and all but there is quite a difference in both lifestyle and humility. In Africa it is unheard of for a child to talk back to an adult..there are no such things as child abuse laws .

[sjonathan02]

The solutions are quite simple. We just don't want to do it. Parents, make your children go to school. Teachers, teach. Students learn or get out of the way so you don't hinder those who do want to learn.

"Leave the step show, come out of the block party, work harder and study harder," they just brush that aside. People leave having missed the entire point.

I just want to help those who want to do better, do better.

 

[csedwards2]

The solutions are quite simple. We just don't want to do it. Parents, make your children go to school. Teachers, teach. Students learn or get out of the way so you don't hinder those who do want to learn.

I'll be very honest, I'm quite tired of talking about solutions. Sometimes I go to university conferences where we discuss minorities in higher education, and it results in nothing but talk. People leave the same way they came, if not more confused.

It is usually a fashion show and a chance to go "ooooo" and "ahhhhhhh" at those of us who have prayed and been blessed, fought and struggled to complete advanced degrees. Then people want to ask how to do what we did, and when we say "Leave the step show, come out of the block party, work harder and study harder," they just brush that aside. People leave having missed the entire point.

I just want to help those who want to do better, do better.

Just my 2 cents.

Be Blessed, everyone

You could add to that; Parents beat your kids. Aint nothing worse than an undisciplined child.

[sjonathan02]

You could add to that; Parents beat your kids. Aint nothing worse than an undisciplined child.

An undisciplined beating, perchance?   I'll let ya'll marinate on that one.

[MissRiss]

The problem stems on the fact that nobody wants to take responsibility for the problems that we have created.

People don't discipline their kids because it's hard work and it takes consistency. In the Black community, some parents think it is the school's entire responsibility to educate and discipline their child. It's not going to happen. Why do parents expect this when kids are at school basically only 6-7 hours per day?

Teachers will teach, but some parents don't get their kids in any kind of shape to come to school so the teacher can work with them. They look good, smell good etc. but have no social skills. By the time the teacher has to work through all the discipline problems, very little teaching/learning takes place. I know that the school system has it's problems too. But we have to take resposibility for our learning and our children's learning.

The church as a whole is going to have do a better job too. The church is going to have to rally around our Black males. If we can march about Don Imus, why can't we do it because only 41% of Black males are graduating from high school? Where is the uproar about this? People had less back in the day but made all kinds of strides in education. We have more material things but are lacking spirtually and morally.

Our priorities are not in order. They are all mixed up. Where education used to be thought of as the means to success, in some people's eyes it just is not important and just doesn't pay.

If I know the way, then I can help others find the way. I start with my family and then move on. With the help of the Lord, we can improve the situation

[J31]

Bboy's point is actually more eloquent than the words of Cosby. Cosby's statement is a very general in nature marred with ignorance, devisiveness, and stereotypes. There are people of all racial backgrounds that can fit those descriptions. The problem with American education is that there is still a disparity between the working class and the elite. Of course this shouldn't be much of a suprise considering that throughout the history of mankind's misapporpriation of resources among different classes. So honestly the proverbial solution doesn't really exist.


So we are still working against a system that is flawed but the opportunites for blacks are there more than ever and we must walk through the open doors. Everyone will not enter into the kingdom of God so how in the world do we expect for every person of every race to have success in life? WE must destroy the ideal of one group of people being judged by the actions of others. That's the real issue. Why can't Cosby see that? Honorary PHD's I tell ya..

Furious....my brotha I know you will take this the right way


Ninja Please!!!!!!!!

Cosby has the right to speak about us, he is us. So to say this is an issue with all races, makes it less of an issue with us?

May I suggest a book by John McWhorter “Authentically Black". It's a great read.

We reduced illiteracy from 80% to 30% in 1903 ( Du Bois from Souls of Black Folks) in the Post Slavery period when life was much, much harder and we as people had far less opportunity, let alone money and jobs. So how in the world can we still be blaming as you say society for what we ourselves can do.


Do you know the library is free?

If you don't have a library card, you can just spend hours sitting in comfort and the correct lighting and read. There are no police in the library to shoot you because they thought you might be stealing a book, no librarian saying "um the black folk’s books are in the back".

In the library there is an entire section dedicated to black folks, black disporea, black thought, racisms and whatever else a black person may want to READ so they are not force feed" white America"

And if you don't understand something, you don't have to be ashamed or afraid to ask. Just go to the reference section and get you a dictionary or an encyclopedia and then teach yourself at your own pace so that you don’t have to blame the education system for not catering to your own needs.

The problem is you won't find most of these knuckleheads near a library because they would rather be seen acting a fool rather than seen getting wisdom.

Seriously society does not care about us educating our children because they know most of us won't

[sjonathan02]

Furious....my brotha I know you will take this the right way


Ninja Please!!!!!!!!

Cosby has the right to speak about us, he is us. So to say this is an issue with all races, makes it less of an issue with us?

May I suggest a book by John McWhorter “Authentically Black". It's a great read.

We reduced illiteracy from 80% to 30% in 1903 ( Du Bois from Souls of Black Folks) in the Post Slavery period when life was much, much harder and we as people had far less opportunity, let alone money and jobs. So how in the world can we still be blaming as you say society for what we ourselves can do.


Do you know the library is free?

If you don't have a library card, you can just spend hours sitting in comfort and the correct lighting and read. There are no police in the library to shoot you because they thought you might be stealing a book, no librarian saying "um the black folk’s books are in the back".

In the library there is an entire section dedicated to black folks, black disporea, black thought, racisms and whatever else a black person may want to READ so they are not force feed" white America"

And if you don't understand something, you don't have to be ashamed or afraid to ask. Just go to the reference section and get you a dictionary or an encyclopedia and then teach yourself at your own pace so that you don’t have to blame the education system for not catering to your own needs.

The problem is you won't find most of these knuckleheads near a library because they would rather be seen acting a fool rather than seen getting wisdom.

Seriously society does not care about us educating our children because they know most of us won't

COSIGN and GLOOOORRRRRAAAYYYY!!!!!!!

Quick note: the word is diaspora, bruh.

[gtrdave]

Quick note: the word is diaspora, bruh.

dia-who-a? 

Ah yes, I found it:

diaspora

Main Entry: di·as·po·ra
Pronunciation: dI-'as-p(&-)r&, dE-
Function: noun
Etymology: Greek, dispersion, from diaspeirein to scatter, from dia- + speirein to sow
1 capitalized a : the settling of scattered colonies of Jews outside Palestine after the Babylonian exile b : the area outside Palestine settled by Jews c : the Jews living outside Palestine or modern Israel
2 a : the movement, migration, or scattering of a people away from an established or ancestral homeland <the black diaspora to northern cities> b : people settled far from their ancestral homelands <African diaspora> c : the place where these people live
- di·a·spor·ic /"dI-&-'spor-ik/ adjective

I dun lernd me a new werd tooday. 

[J31]

COSIGN and GLOOOORRRRRAAAYYYY!!!!!!!

Quick note: the word is diaspora, bruh.

Oops yeah I was on a roll and forgot all my edjumacationess