2010 NBA Playoffs

[cordney]

IDK what hes sayin....but i know what I see.

Fact remains that his team is really puttin their foot in it. Like come on....he has NO player to pick him up....Cleveland is all make or break on him...which is way unfair.  And by ownership doing the dumbest things ever, hes gettin clearly frustrated.....

BTW...i like dwight...so anything less than like 20/15/3 is totally unacceptable.......

It's funny how the Cavs were the favorites two weeks ago!  Everyone said, "Cleveland has/had the deepest bench in the playoffs."  Funny how things change so soon...smh.  Now, LBJ doesn't have any help...C'MON SON!  They had the best record in the league, they had the best home record in the league.  For them to come out and lose twice at home...the way they did, it's unacceptable!  If he wants to be mentioned with the greats of the game...he needs to play like them on a nightly basis.

[churchyreal]

It's funny how the Cavs were the favorites two weeks ago!  Everyone said, "Cleveland has/had the deepest bench in the playoffs."  Funny how things change so soon...smh.  Now, LBJ doesn't have any help...C'MON SON!  They had the best record in the league, they had the best home record in the league.  For them to come out and lose twice at home...the way they did, it's unacceptable!  If he wants to be mentioned with the greats of the game...he needs to play like them on a nightly basis.

I was on that bandwagon! I'm deeply shocked!

[Arkhams Finest]

It's funny how the Cavs were the favorites two weeks ago!  Everyone said, "Cleveland has/had the deepest bench in the playoffs."  Funny how things change so soon...smh.  Now, LBJ doesn't have any help...C'MON SON!  They had the best record in the league, they had the best home record in the league.  For them to come out and lose twice at home...the way they did, it's unacceptable!  If he wants to be mentioned with the greats of the game...he needs to play like them on a nightly basis.

Kobe hasn't been playing great on a "nightly basis". 

Difference?  Kobe's teammates are picking up the slack when Kobe has been less than great.

In the first round Dwight spent half the series on the bench in foul trouble.  That team is so good it really didn't matter.  Orlando swept.

If Lebron doesn't have a great game the Cavs have a slim chance of winning.

Just sayin.

[lordluvr]

Kobe hasn't been playing great on a "nightly basis". 

Difference?  Kobe's teammates are picking up the slack when Kobe has been less than great.

In the first round Dwight spent half the series on the bench in foul trouble.  That team is so good it really didn't matter.  Orlando swept.

If Lebron doesn't have a great game the Cavs have a slim chance of winning.

Just sayin.

Cleveland's point guards need to step up on both ends of the court.  Rondo makes them look silly. They need to start returning the favor.  The question is, are they able?  Or, are they only good....well...adequate...for spotting up for 3's?

[mbamoody]

Cleveland's point guards need to step up on both ends of the court.  Rondo makes them look silly. They need to start returning the favor.  The question is, are they able?  Or, are they only good....well...adequate...for spotting up for 3's?

I have a big issue with this. Not because of the quote, but because we are expecting them to do something they can't. I agree they need to step up on the defensive end, but they can't do it on the offensive if LBJ always has the ball in his hands. Just look at the stats from when Mo Williams was with the Bucks til now. Assist are down and turnovers are up. He's not the floor General, so I can't expect that to happen.

[lordluvr]

I have a big issue with this. Not because of the quote, but because we are expecting them to do something they can't. I agree they need to step up on the defensive end, but they can't do it on the offensive if LBJ always has the ball in his hands. Just look at the stats from when Mo Williams was with the Bucks til now. Assist are down and turnovers are up. He's not the floor General, so I can't expect that to happen.

He's not the floor general because he's not stepping into that role. That role isn't going to be given to him (or Delonte).  He's got to step into it, like Rondo did.  Let's say, for example, that somehow Cleveland landed Deron Williams or Chris Paul.  Do you think that they would stop being floor generals and sit back and watch LeBron?  No way!  Instead, they'd be salivating at all of the pick and roll and alley oop opportunities that playing alongside a talent like his provides.  They'd still be in the 20/10 club too.

[cordney]

Kobe hasn't been playing great on a "nightly basis". 

I said, "If he wants to be mentioned with the greats...he needs to play like them on a nightly basis."  A bad offensive game doesn't mean he didn't hustle on D, gather rebounds, dish out assist and what not.  The overall game constitutes a great night not just one aspect of it....JMT.

[churchyreal]

Gosh I can't wait for the game tonight! I'm going to have to study before game and then after game cause I gotta see this game tonight! Oh what amazement it would be if Cleveland lost tonight after I picked them winning the NBA Finals! Even though I think Lebron is a great player, right now I want Kobe to get as many rings as possible.......lol! Oops did I just say that?......

BTW I think Lebron should stay in Cleveland, they get an experienced coach and pick up a player in the free agency market and win the title next year!

[mbamoody]

He's not the floor general because he's not stepping into that role. That role isn't going to be given to him (or Delonte).  He's got to step into it, like Rondo did.  Let's say, for example, that somehow Cleveland landed Deron Williams or Chris Paul.  Do you think that they would stop being floor generals and sit back and watch LeBron?  No way!  Instead, they'd be salivating at all of the pick and roll and alley oop opportunities that playing alongside a talent like his provides.  They'd still be in the 20/10 club too.

How can he step into that role if the offense requires LBJ to have the ball in his hands once they get past half court? Like I said, check the assist stats of Mo from when he was with the Bucks and now. There is a big difference when you run the show. As for Rondo, when Doc finally let him run the show, assist and points increased. Before that, Pierce ran the show.

[Arkhams Finest]

I said, "If he wants to be mentioned with the greats...he needs to play like them on a nightly basis."  A bad offensive game doesn't mean he didn't hustle on D, gather rebounds, dish out assist and what not.  The overall game constitutes a great night not just one aspect of it....JMT.

I agree with this 1000%.  You're right, Lebron is great at doing all those things you mentioned.

[Arkhams Finest]

How can he step into that role if the offense requires LBJ to have the ball in his hands once they get past half court? Like I said, check the assist stats of Mo from when he was with the Bucks and now. There is a big difference when you run the show. As for Rondo, when Doc finally let him run the show, assist and points increased. Before that, Pierce ran the show.

Are we looking at the same stats?

Career high with Bucks: 6.3

This year with Cavs: 5.3

He wasn't exactly John Stockton before he came to the Cavs.  What he can do very well is score, and his scoring has decreased in the playoffs.

[lordluvr]

How can he step into that role if the offense requires LBJ to have the ball in his hands once they get past half court? Like I said, check the assist stats of Mo from when he was with the Bucks and now. There is a big difference when you run the show. As for Rondo, when Doc finally let him run the show, assist and points increased. Before that, Pierce ran the show.

Doc didn't just now let him run the show.  The show was his to run for at least a couple of years.  You never answered my question about Williams or Paul.  My point is that the offense runs through LeBron because it has to.  No one else steps up consistantly or with the same level of sucesss.  If Mo or Delonte ran the point like CP3, there'd be no discussion about who the offense runs through.  Before trades and injuries, West was New Orleans' go-to guy, but the offense ran through CP3.  The same thing would be the case in Cleve. with a star PG.

[mbamoody]

Are we looking at the same stats?

Career high with Bucks: 6.3

This year with Cavs: 5.3

He wasn't exactly John Stockton before he came to the Cavs.  What he can do very well is score, and his scoring has decreased in the playoffs.

I can see the Stockton point, but the -1 assist isn't because the guy he passed it to, missed the shot. There was a big strategy shift for Mo when he got to Cleveland. Let's face it; Rondo is better the Mo except for 3pt shooting. Even on defense. So what do we really expect Mo to do (as in step up)?

[Arkhams Finest]

I can see the Stockton point, but the -1 assist isn't because the guy he passed it to, missed the shot. There was a big strategy shift for Mo when he got to Cleveland. Let's face it; Rondo is better the Mo except for 3pt shooting. Even on defense. So what do we really expect Mo to do (as in step up)?

Absolutely.  If there was any doubt about that before this series, there's none now.

Rondo has put himself in the conversation of best pgs in the league.

[lordluvr]

Absolutely.  If there was any doubt about that before this series, there's none now.

Rondo has put himself in the conversation of best pgs in the league.

Most definitely

[churchyreal]

Absolutely.  If there was any doubt about that before this series, there's none now.

Rondo has put himself in the conversation of best pgs in the league.

Yep!

[mbamoody]

Doc didn't just now let him run the show.  The show was his to run for at least a couple of years.  You never answered my question about Williams or Paul.  My point is that the offense runs through LeBron because it has to.  No one else steps up consistantly or with the same level of sucesss.  If Mo or Delonte ran the point like CP3, there'd be no discussion about who the offense runs through.  Before trades and injuries, West was New Orleans' go-to guy, but the offense ran through CP3.  The same thing would be the case in Cleve. with a star PG.

LL, I didn't even see this response. CP3 or Williams would run the show in Cleveland and LBJ be the go-to-guy. Those are two pure PGs while I don't think Mo is. He definitely doesn't have the vision as the others. But that's Cleveland's fault. I didn't think he should've made the Allstar team period. IMO

[lordluvr]

LL, I didn't even see this response. CP3 or Williams would run the show in Cleveland and LBJ be the go-to-guy. Those are two pure PGs while I don't think Mo is. He definitely doesn't have the vision as the others. But that's Cleveland's fault. I didn't think he should've made the Allstar team period. IMO

And that brings to mind this question: If LeBron stays in Cleveland, do you guys think that the Cavs should pursue a true PG?  If so, should they move Williams to the 2 position or just get rid of him (or Delonte) period?  I feel like they've got enough key components to win it all.  I believe the PG position is the weakest link in their chain.  They've got a whole crew of good fowards, and solid players at the 5 spot.  Granted, Shaq is less of a force than he was in years past, but he can still do damage in spots.

[churchyreal]

And that brings to mind this question: If LeBron stays in Cleveland, do you guys think that the Cavs should pursue a true PG?  If so, should they move Williams to the 2 position or just get rid of him (or Delonte) period?  I feel like they've got enough key components to win it all.  I believe the PG position is the weakest link in their chain.  They've got a whole crew of good fowards, and solid players at the 5 spot.  Granted, Shaq is less of a force than he was in years past, but he can still do damage in spots.

I say trade Delonte West and maybe someone off the bench and get a true PG.

[mbamoody]

And that brings to mind this question: If LeBron stays in Cleveland, do you guys think that the Cavs should pursue a true PG?  If so, should they move Williams to the 2 position or just get rid of him (or Delonte) period?  I feel like they've got enough key components to win it all.  I believe the PG position is the weakest link in their chain.  They've got a whole crew of good fowards, and solid players at the 5 spot.  Granted, Shaq is less of a force than he was in years past, but he can still do damage in spots.

Trade Mo and Delonte. I think they should pick up Andre Miller and/or try to steal D. Collison from the N.O.