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Re: 2010 NBA Playoffs
« Reply #360 on: May 25, 2010, 08:17:38 AM »
I'm still a little puzzled by the Cavs' decision to let go of Mike Brown.  How do you fire someone who has won 66% of the games he's coached for your team- the coach of the year at that?  He's taken his team to the brink of a championship.  Unfortunately, there can only be one winner.  He wasn't that guy, but that doesn't justify firing him, in my opinion.  That's like saying, "Your body of work makes no difference.  We're only going to judge you based upon your last series."  The same thing happened to Byron Scott after winning the Coach of the Year honor.  I just don't understand it.

I totally see what you're saying. Maybe they felt like it was Championship year and Cavs actually exited out earlier than last year. You know Cleveland was the favorite to win it all so I guess they felt that this was suppose to be it and that it faltered on lack of motivation or game plan not put together. Idk.

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Re: 2010 NBA Playoffs
« Reply #361 on: May 25, 2010, 08:44:24 AM »
I totally see what you're saying. Maybe they felt like it was Championship year and Cavs actually exited out earlier than last year. You know Cleveland was the favorite to win it all so I guess they felt that this was suppose to be it and that it faltered on lack of motivation or game plan not put together. Idk.
Yes, I agree that the expectations were high.  Maybe it's my thinking that's flawed.  I guess owners only build teams for the post-season, so once you get there, that's when you go under the microscope.  While I can see that line of thinking, I think it's short-sighted.  Here's why:

If you have a coach that keeps getting your team to the post-season here's the trickle-down effect-

- More regular season ticket sales
- More overall income due to playing in the post-season
- More team jersey sales
- More concession revenues (due to having better attendance)
- More national exposure (TV time)
- etc...

Let's look at the Philadelphia Eagles as a prime example.  I don't know all of the statistics off hand, but I do know that under Donovan McNabb, they went to the NFC championship multiple years.  They went to the Superbowl one time.  The stadium stays sold out for home games.  Team jersey sales are among the leage leaders every year.  They get much TV coverage- even in non-Philly markets.  It all means much income for Jeffrey Lurie.  That's why Andy Reid is still around despite never winning the Superbowl.  Maybe there's a difference in mentality between football owners and basketball, but it shouldn't be too different.  I don't know.  I'm just baffled at how firing a winner is justified.

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Re: 2010 NBA Playoffs
« Reply #362 on: May 25, 2010, 08:59:47 AM »
Yes, I agree that the expectations were high.  Maybe it's my thinking that's flawed.  I guess owners only build teams for the post-season, so once you get there, that's when you go under the microscope.  While I can see that line of thinking, I think it's short-sighted.  Here's why:

If you have a coach that keeps getting your team to the post-season here's the trickle-down effect-

- More regular season ticket sales
- More overall income due to playing in the post-season
- More team jersey sales
- More concession revenues (due to having better attendance)
- More national exposure (TV time)
- etc...

Let's look at the Philadelphia Eagles as a prime example.  I don't know all of the statistics off hand, but I do know that under Donovan McNabb, they went to the NFC championship multiple years.  They went to the Superbowl one time.  The stadium stays sold out for home games.  Team jersey sales are among the leage leaders every year.  They get much TV coverage- even in non-Philly markets.  It all means much income for Jeffrey Lurie.  That's why Andy Reid is still around despite never winning the Superbowl.  Maybe there's a difference in mentality between football owners and basketball, but it shouldn't be too different.  I don't know.  I'm just baffled at how firing a winner is justified.

Yeah and especially with tthe $ being the bottom line with everything too it is a little puzzling.  :-\

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Re: 2010 NBA Playoffs
« Reply #363 on: May 25, 2010, 11:00:25 AM »
I'm kinda torn.  On one hand, I'm glad the Magic got a win.  I'd even like to see them win again, but for some reason, I'd like to see Boston win it all.


Naw, I really dont like boston like that, lol I really dont know why...

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Re: 2010 NBA Playoffs
« Reply #364 on: May 25, 2010, 11:02:53 AM »
I know alot of people that say LEBRON was the reason the team won 60+ games those two years. The rumors I have heard is that his Basketball IQ was actually higher than Mike Brown's and it was almost like he was coaching himself. Mike Brown actually had no offensive gameplan EVER. His gameplan was "HERE LEBRON TAKE THE BALL AND GO 1 AGAINST 5 or FIND SOMEBODY OPEN. There was no structure to his offense AT ALL.

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Re: 2010 NBA Playoffs
« Reply #365 on: May 25, 2010, 11:05:40 AM »
Maybe Lebron should be a player-coach like Bill Russell was...hmmm.

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« Reply #366 on: May 25, 2010, 11:09:17 AM »
Yes, I agree that the expectations were high.  Maybe it's my thinking that's flawed.  I guess owners only build teams for the post-season, so once you get there, that's when you go under the microscope.  While I can see that line of thinking, I think it's short-sighted.  Here's why:

If you have a coach that keeps getting your team to the post-season here's the trickle-down effect-

- More regular season ticket sales
- More overall income due to playing in the post-season
- More team jersey sales
- More concession revenues (due to having better attendance)
- More national exposure (TV time)
- etc...

Let's look at the Philadelphia Eagles as a prime example.  I don't know all of the statistics off hand, but I do know that under Donovan McNabb, they went to the NFC championship multiple years.  They went to the Superbowl one time.  The stadium stays sold out for home games.  Team jersey sales are among the leage leaders every year.  They get much TV coverage- even in non-Philly markets.  It all means much income for Jeffrey Lurie.  That's why Andy Reid is still around despite never winning the Superbowl.  Maybe there's a difference in mentality between football owners and basketball, but it shouldn't be too different.  I don't know.  I'm just baffled at how firing a winner is justified.


...honestly, Mike Brown and Byron Scott will be fine.  They have an opportunity to coach a group of guys that want to win and play team ball.  Mike had a lot of headaches in that Cavs team.

...I was listening to some guys on ESPN News talk about how Lebron can have a say so or choice as to who he wants his next Coach to be and why.  I think that's stupid!  The Owner might as well give King James ownership if that's the case.
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Re: 2010 NBA Playoffs
« Reply #367 on: May 25, 2010, 12:50:51 PM »

...honestly, Mike Brown and Byron Scott will be fine.  They have an opportunity to coach a group of guys that want to win and play team ball.  Mike had a lot of headaches in that Cavs team.

...I was listening to some guys on ESPN News talk about how Lebron can have a say so or choice as to who he wants his next Coach to be and why.  I think that's stupid!  The Owner might as well give King James ownership if that's the case.

Define "fine", cuz Byron hasn't coached in a couple of years.  I think he deserves another shot.  Then again, those chairs at ESPN do look kinda comfy, and there's a whole lot less stress.

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Re: 2010 NBA Playoffs
« Reply #368 on: May 25, 2010, 01:02:07 PM »
Define "fine", cuz Byron hasn't coached in a couple of years.  I think he deserves another shot.  Then again, those chairs at ESPN do look kinda comfy, and there's a whole lot less stress.

Yeah that's why Jeff Van Gundy ain't coached in a hot minute.....LOL!

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Re: 2010 NBA Playoffs
« Reply #369 on: May 25, 2010, 01:40:48 PM »
Maybe Lebron should be a player-coach like Bill Russell was...hmmm.
Yep!! I believe that Coach Mike Brown will definitely land on his feet. I don't think that Byron Scott is necessarily the answer for Cleveland...I would do all I can to get Phil Jackson, a coach who has what they are trying to get.
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Re: 2010 NBA Playoffs
« Reply #370 on: May 25, 2010, 01:43:32 PM »
Yep!! I believe that Coach Mike Brown will definitely land on his feet. I don't think that Byron Scott is necessarily the answer for Cleveland...I would do all I can to get Phil Jackson, a coach who has what they are trying to get.

True but while I"m a Lakers fan........for now.....I want Jackson to stay and end his career with Los Angeles or stay and win 2 more titles and then end his career in Chicago.....haha!  ;D

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« Reply #371 on: May 25, 2010, 01:53:29 PM »
True but while I"m a Lakers fan........for now.....I want Jackson to stay and end his career with Los Angeles or stay and win 2 more titles and then end his career in Chicago.....haha!  ;D
I don't want him to leave LA either but Dr. Buss is trying to get him to take a huge pay cut. I don't think that's fair to Phil. Just my honest opinion though. :-\
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« Reply #372 on: May 25, 2010, 02:01:11 PM »
I don't want him to leave LA either but Dr. Buss is trying to get him to take a huge pay cut. I don't think that's fair to Phil. Just my honest opinion though. :-\

Maybe they are trying to improve the bench (which is, to me, their biggest weakness right now) and need someone to take a pay cut. BTW do you think Lakers should trade someone for Chris Bosh?

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« Reply #373 on: May 25, 2010, 11:08:48 PM »
Well we've got ourselves a series people. Suns/Lakers 2-2. Not suprising at all to me. Expecting this thing to go to 7. Lakers really having problems with the Zone Defense....wow!

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« Reply #374 on: May 26, 2010, 08:37:59 AM »
Well we've got ourselves a series people. Suns/Lakers 2-2. Not suprising at all to me. Expecting this thing to go to 7. Lakers really having problems with the Zone Defense....wow!

...man, the Lakers will still win in 6. lol   I hope Orlando wins tonight!  We need to close out with a win here in O-town.  ::)
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Re: 2010 NBA Playoffs
« Reply #375 on: May 26, 2010, 08:51:45 AM »
An Orlando comeback would be wonderful, but I don't think it's going to happen.  Orlando may have the better team, according to some, but Boston has the better coach (according to me  ;D)

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Re: 2010 NBA Playoffs
« Reply #376 on: May 26, 2010, 09:36:36 AM »
An Orlando comeback would be wonderful, but I don't think it's going to happen.  Orlando may have the better team, according to some, but Boston has the better coach (according to me  ;D)

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« Reply #377 on: May 26, 2010, 11:24:50 AM »
An Orlando comeback would be wonderful, but I don't think it's going to happen.  Orlando may have the better team, according to some, but Boston has the better coach (according to me  ;D)

...lol.  Doc Rivers is a very good Coach.  I just don't want Orlando to lose down here at home. lol  Hopefully the Magic "Team" and not "Three" can show up and win one more time.  :-\   They're paying Vince to be the closer.  Looks like J.J. Reddick may need some of that cash.  :-\
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« Reply #378 on: May 26, 2010, 11:33:53 AM »
There's been so much said about Phoenix's zone defense, and rightfully so, but I noticed that the LA starters were having difficulty against the half-court trap too.  I thought it was a little ironic, since Phil Jackson was famous for using the half-court trap when he was with Chicago.

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