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dont scan pass please help !i am a serious beginner!
« on: October 30, 2007, 08:12:34 AM »
PLEASE HELP!im sorry to bother but i just joined and i hope there is someone who will help a passionate beginner  :)! i've been playing for a year or 2 . i cant play like songs on a cd but i can play choruses and refrains etc.so please tell me how can i improve? by the way i play by ear i've never been taught or have a mentor. and i want to improve? help please  :'(  ive gottten negative vibes around cos im female but i gonna shut ma eyes and play with christ. so help!
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Re: dont scan pass please help !i am a serious beginner!
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2007, 08:34:30 AM »
First my Sista, Welcome to the low end.  :)

Second - Pray and Practice..... This is a very important step.  Because only through prayer can you achieve what "you Believe" is the impossible.

Third - Stick to the basics. Learn your scales and modes. Invest in a book called "Bass Guitar for Dummies". It is a excellent starting point. It will help you with the little things that are hard to figure out on your own. The book is not to imply that you are a dummie. Please don't take offense. :)

Fourth - Pray and Practice..... This is a very important step.  Because only through prayer can you achieve what "you Believe" is the impossible.
 
Good luck and God Bless 8)
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Re: dont scan pass please help !i am a serious beginner!
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2007, 09:14:29 AM »
PLEASE HELP!im sorry to bother but i just joined and i hope there is someone who will help a passionate beginner  :)! i've been playing for a year or 2 . i cant play like songs on a cd but i can play choruses and refrains etc.so please tell me how can i improve? by the way i play by ear i've never been taught or have a mentor. and i want to improve? help please  :'(  ive gottten negative vibes around cos im female but i gonna shut ma eyes and play with christ. so help!

welcome to the low end:

First is learn your scales in the main position.  and the most important ones are: major scales, minor scales, and the easiest and most often used are the minor pentatonic scales.  Just by know these basic scales you can hear an entire song within the scale.

Some useful excercises is hum a simple tune in your head or out loud and copy that on the bass.  Believe it or not the basic excercises such as do ri me fa la (something like that) is essential to improving your ear. that's basically the major scale.

For cd's that uses a lot of Major scales try Israel houghton:

Cd's with a lot of pentatonic minor scales try: byron cage and for advanced level fred hammond.

Also youtube has tons of information, that is better then buying instruction dvd's type in what you need and some good vids will pop up.  I usually study how the players play, feeling, hand movement, position, etc...

Another rule of thumb is to know your fretboard.  Pick up a book called fretboard logic for bass.  it teaches you patterns on the fretboard to basically play all over the neck in all scales... instead of learning the notes on the neck it teaches intervals, this is a plus to get...

Buy some bass dvd's, live concerts on dvds, such as victor wooten, kirk whalum, fred hammond, or whatever your preference is - this not only helps me to study how to play live, and grooves but it's a motivation for me when i have my bass slumps...

I tend to also purchase live cd's because the bass players really come out the box.  There's a difference from studio recording and live recording.  It's good to hold a groove, but when live, it makes a difference to freestyle a little (but only when necessary) too much coming out the box can hurt you.

it's also important to learn theory:  this is really help when learning cd's because all songs consist of chord progressions.  If you now a chord progression, such as the simple 1-4-5 and you hear it in the song, you automatically know which note comes next, and the more you know the better.. the more you study the easier you can learn songs.

Last but not least... learn how to read music.  THIS IS  A PLUS, and it will not effect your hear training, it will only make it better, and this is when you can make some serious money from music and further advance your career. 

If you have any questions, just hit me up:

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Re: dont scan pass please help !i am a serious beginner!
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2007, 09:16:39 AM »
In order to really be of help, we have to know what you have done and what you are willing to do. 

Under the category of "What Have You Done?"
  • Hopefully you've taken a look at the thread for beginning players.  It has a lot of good useful, basic information
  • The VERY FIRST thing you need to do is become familiar with the placement and sound of the notes on the neck of your bass
  • Have you looked into the idea of finding an instructor in your area?  You can usually find someone worthwhile at a good music store or local community college

Under the category "What Are You Willing To Do?"
  • Are you willing to at least develop a casual understanding of music notation?
  • Are you willing to start learning elementary (sometimes boring) material in order to get a grasp on the basics?

There are a number of people here that are willing to help you.  You have to help us help you.

Peace,

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Re: dont scan pass please help !i am a serious beginner!
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2007, 09:30:18 AM »
I won't echo what was already said but I strongly suggest you find a good instructor. There are tons of self teaching materials out there but I do think you need a solid one to one instructor. Don't let the 'girl' thing bother you. There are quite a few professional female bassists who can run circles around guy bassists! It seems inherant that y'all have more 'funk' than we do! :)

Follow your dreams and let Christ guide you!

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Re: dont scan pass please help !i am a serious beginner!
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2007, 12:06:45 PM »
i agree with the posts above. i also would like to stress what DW says. nothing is more valuable than an actual teacher. i know from experience. even if its not someone for formal lessons, at least find someone you can meet up with that will take the time to show you some things, answer some questions, etc. Thats what i had when i was on my own for almost a year, and my first teacher got really busy doing studio work and i didnt want to take up his time from that because i wasnt paying him, even though he was willing to put stuff on hold to help me. I would meet with him like every other week or so, and what i learned from him in that one hour, was more than i learned on my own during the time from the last meeting. sometimes i didnt even play a note, he just talked to me and told me things which were so helpful, and you cant ask the book questions.

and he played keyboard which was the greatest help for ear training. if you can find a keyboardist to help you that'll work as well, just in a different capacity. have him/her play chords while you try to find the bass notes to accompany them. this will help your ear training and will make it easier to hear things on records. this is one plus that a sole bass player cant give you. so to improve, mix it up.
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Re: dont scan pass please help !i am a serious beginner!
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2007, 12:26:21 PM »
thanks y'all. i lots are soo nice i wish u lot were over here in the uk.well i have tried to look into a teacher but they charge alot of money i dont have.the other branches of ma church are far and they are busy cos i have investigated already.they dont take me seriously.but thanks for ur suggestion i will try to learn scales and other stuff . thanks guys. :-*
B confident dat GOD is able to increase ur talent!

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Re: dont scan pass please help !i am a serious beginner!
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2007, 12:56:15 PM »
can you post a clip of your self playing a chorus that you know?

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Re: dont scan pass please help !i am a serious beginner!
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2007, 01:01:13 PM »
unfortunately i dont have a clip of me playing bass .sorry
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Re: dont scan pass please help !i am a serious beginner!
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2007, 03:06:42 PM »
do you have a high speed connection for internet?

If you dont...then e-mail me your address and name and I can mail you a couple of videos...

Info@uriahsmusic.com

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Re: dont scan pass please help !i am a serious beginner!
« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2007, 03:40:27 PM »
do you have a high speed connection for internet?

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Duchessbubbles,  What you have right there is "opportunity knocking".  You might never find a better "online" teacher than Uriah.  He has posted video clips and lessons that can help anybody.  Even long-timer, supposedly advanced players like ......***ahem***.....me

Figure out a way to interact with him over high speed connection.

Peace,

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Re: dont scan pass please help !i am a serious beginner!
« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2007, 05:13:29 PM »
duchess how r u doing? im also in the u.k and i undatstand wot u r saying about pple charging u heavy sums.wot part of u.k r u in? i jam with one or two good bassist and i aint too bad myself although i stil got lots to learn.anyways stay blessed.

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Re: dont scan pass please help !i am a serious beginner!
« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2007, 06:53:52 PM »
thanks uriah. U will be hearing from me asap.u lot are soo nice its mind blowing.
hi Asaph thank for clocking in to help! i live in London near lewisham/greenwich etc.. where r u?
B confident dat GOD is able to increase ur talent!

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Re: dont scan pass please help !i am a serious beginner!
« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2007, 09:00:21 PM »
I won't echo what was already said but I strongly suggest you find a good instructor.

What do you do when you can't find an instructor that can add some soul to your playing?
I have finally come across some instructors, but they all play rock and country...no GOSPEL ?/?
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Re: dont scan pass please help !i am a serious beginner!
« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2007, 10:58:14 PM »
thanks uriah. U will be hearing from me asap.u lot are soo nice its mind blowing.
hi Asaph thank for clocking in to help! i live in London near lewisham/greenwich etc.. where r u?

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Re: dont scan pass please help !i am a serious beginner!
« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2007, 03:51:25 AM »
thanks y'all so where in the uk are u asaph?
B confident dat GOD is able to increase ur talent!

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Re: dont scan pass please help !i am a serious beginner!
« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2007, 10:52:05 AM »
finding a good instructor is hard to find because there are good ones and bad ones... i usually go with some that have a network of resources or clients they have worked with that i can talk to.  I know some instructors that can play awesome but teach terrible, and also some that plays okay (average) but is an awesome teacher.

For me, every instrument i've played (piano, sax, bass) has been self taught, and had plenty of gigs with up, but i know i can do more with a good instructor...

I've heard of a good instructor called Tim Clifton... he has a cd out called purpose by design.  Awesome cd, and is in Dallas... i'm not sure how much he charges - Berklee school of music also has some online college courses as well.

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Re: dont scan pass please help !i am a serious beginner!
« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2007, 10:53:42 AM »
i live in Erith which is like a bus away from woolwich.matter of fact,my church is havin a concert dis saturday @ 5.oopm.do u fink u cud come and my name's ope.

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Re: dont scan pass please help !i am a serious beginner!
« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2007, 11:42:55 AM »
ok asaph
u need to give me the address?or jus add me as a contact on yahoo messenger . and we can chat ok. asap do it nowlol

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Re: dont scan pass please help !i am a serious beginner!
« Reply #19 on: November 06, 2007, 11:52:13 AM »
PLEASE HELP!im sorry to bother but i just joined and i hope there is someone who will help a passionate beginner  :)! i've been playing for a year or 2 . i cant play like songs on a cd but i can play choruses and refrains etc.so please tell me how can i improve? by the way i play by ear i've never been taught or have a mentor. and i want to improve? help please  :'(  ive gottten negative vibes around cos im female but i gonna shut ma eyes and play with christ. so help!

Relax and practice,  Like the brother said pray and practice.  I've been playing for 20 + years and I'm coming out of retirement had not played in about 12 years.  I'm starting all over again.  Learn your scales and then learn the number system.  Example  C D E F G A B C
                                                                                                      1  2 3 4 5 6 7 8
So a progression could be a 1 4 5 in the key of C, or a 2 5 1 in the key of C, or any key  Practice that and see if it sounds familure to you.
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