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Needing Help Deciding....
« on: January 09, 2008, 04:36:40 PM »
Greetings Fam!  This is actually my first post in the drum forum, but I have been a long time reader of different posts and have enjoyed them to the fullest.  Now I'm calling on some of you all to help me deciding on something....

Our church is in the process of building a new building and we're looking to get new musical equipment, including drums.  Since I'm the drummer, I have been taking it upon myself to do some research on what would be a nice kit to buy.  I have looked at all the big names like Yamaha, PDP, Mapex, and Sonor.  The only reason I didn't look at Pearl is because that's what I'm playing on now and I want to move on to something different.  Try a different flavor.  Plus every church around here now seems to have a Pearl kit.  There's nothing wrong with the company, but I just want to go to something else and stand out from the crowd a bit.

I'm down to two choices:  Mapex Pro M and Yamaha Tour Custom.  I need help on deciding which would be the better fit.  I'm leaning more towards the Yamaha kit right now.  But it's hard finding individual drums to buy such as different size toms.  The one thing that would make me choose the Mapex is that it has a wider variety of colors. Plus it would be easier to get all the drums I'm wanting. But I'm struggling in my choice right now, lol.  :)

I would love to test these kits out and see them in person, but the problem is that the little music stores around here don't carry them.  There's one that does carry Mapex, but not the higher end stuff. 

So any and all opinions would be appreciated!  ;D

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Re: Needing Help Deciding....
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2008, 04:44:34 PM »
...dude, Mapex Pro M's are hott.  What's hotter than that is the Mapex Saturn Series.  Get the kit with no matching snare and purchase one of the Black Panther Series snares and you're good to go.

...Yamaha Tour Custom's are aiight.  Nothing to brag about really.

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Re: Needing Help Deciding....
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2008, 04:51:50 PM »
I don't have experience with tons of kits. A budget for the rest of the guys would help.

I play the new Gretsch Maple Renown kit and it sounds great. Real decent price on these drums.

I also play Yamaha Oak Customs. They cut through real nice and have a warm powerful tone.

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Re: Needing Help Deciding....
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2008, 05:07:37 PM »
...dude, Mapex Pro M's are hott.  What's hotter than that is the Mapex Saturn Series.  Get the kit with no matching snare and purchase one of the Black Panther Series snares and you're good to go.

...Yamaha Tour Custom's are aiight.  Nothing to brag about really.

Cool.  Thanks man.  I've heard good things about Mapex, but I just wish I could try them for myself.  Or at least see them in person.


I don't have experience with tons of kits. A budget for the rest of the guys would help.

I play the new Gretsch Maple Renown kit and it sounds great. Real decent price on these drums.

I also play Yamaha Oak Customs. They cut through real nice and have a warm powerful tone.

Yeah, I looked at Gretsch too.  I forgot to list that. I've heard good things about those too.
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Re: Needing Help Deciding....
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2008, 05:16:26 PM »
...alright man.  What's your budget and then we can try and help you put something together for your church.

..by the way, what Pearl kit do you use?
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Re: Needing Help Deciding....
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2008, 05:18:19 PM »
I forgot to add too that we could probably go up to $1100, or a little more for a shell pack.  It's not a big budget, but that's what we are working with.  But after doing some more thinking and looking, the Pro M's are looking nice! 
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Re: Needing Help Deciding....
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2008, 05:21:27 PM »
Greetings Fam!  This is actually my first post in the drum forum, but I have been a long time reader of different posts and have enjoyed them to the fullest.  Now I'm calling on some of you all to help me deciding on something....

Our church is in the process of building a new building and we're looking to get new musical equipment, including drums.  Since I'm the drummer, I have been taking it upon myself to do some research on what would be a nice kit to buy.  I have looked at all the big names like Yamaha, PDP, Mapex, and Sonor.  The only reason I didn't look at Pearl is because that's what I'm playing on now and I want to move on to something different.  Try a different flavor.  Plus every church around here now seems to have a Pearl kit.  There's nothing wrong with the company, but I just want to go to something else and stand out from the crowd a bit.

I'm down to two choices:  Mapex Pro M and Yamaha Tour Custom.  I need help on deciding which would be the better fit.  I'm leaning more towards the Yamaha kit right now.  But it's hard finding individual drums to buy such as different size toms.  The one thing that would make me choose the Mapex is that it has a wider variety of colors. Plus it would be easier to get all the drums I'm wanting. But I'm struggling in my choice right now, lol.  :)

I would love to test these kits out and see them in person, but the problem is that the little music stores around here don't carry them.  There's one that does carry Mapex, but not the higher end stuff. 

So any and all opinions would be appreciated!  ;D

Be blessed...



 whats y'all price  $  budget then go from there

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Re: Needing Help Deciding....
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2008, 05:23:22 PM »
...alright man.  What's your budget and then we can try and help you put something together for your church.

..by the way, what Pearl kit do you use?


It's actually a Forum kit.  We got that a couple of years after I had started playing for church.  And I thought that at the time, that was a good kit to buy, because I didn't know any better.  And we let our minister of music at the time talk us into getting it.  But I know that the Forum is the lowest of lows, lol.  I actually can't stand playing on that kit now. That's why almost anything right now would be a sure upgrade.  I'm ready to toss that kit clear out the window!  I would use it for fire wood if I could.  ;D

Oh, and the budget is mentioned in the above post...
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Re: Needing Help Deciding....
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2008, 05:25:01 PM »
I forgot to add too that we could probably go up to $1100, or a little more for a shell pack.  It's not a big budget, but that's what we are working with.  But after doing some more thinking and looking, the Pro M's are looking nice! 

go with mapex pro m or dw pdp line and if you going with some budget cymbals go with sabian pro sonix

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Re: Needing Help Deciding....
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2008, 06:00:07 PM »
For your budget range, SONOR FORCE. Hands down. IMHO

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Re: Needing Help Deciding....
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2008, 06:38:43 PM »

It's actually a Forum kit.   We got that a couple of years after I had started playing for church.  And we let our minister of music at the time talk us into getting it.  But I know that the Forum is the lowest of lows, lol.  I actually can't stand playing on that kit now. That's why almost anything right now would be a sure upgrade.  

...dude, you guys fell for the Minister of Music knows it all thing too, huh? LMBO  A lot of those guys don't even know how to work their own ES Motif 8's and they're going to tell you what drums to get. ::)  We're glad you're here.  As a matter of fact.....for any future purchase.....consult the LGM Fam. first.  Even for vocal mics. or tambourines. LOL  "Don't" know it all M.O.M.'s get on my last nerve.  They're the ones that spend the churches money and then go be the M.O.M. at the church down the street. >:( ;) ;D

...okay so the Pearl Forum shouldn't even be considered a Pearl IMHO.  Dude, Pearl Visions kit is also a very good kit so don't judge Pearl by the crappy Forum kit.  I can't stand those either.

I forgot to add too that we could probably go up to $1100, or a little more for a shell pack.  It's not a big budget, but that's what we are working with.  But after doing some more thinking and looking, the Pro M's are looking nice! 

...so let me get something straight....this budget is just for the drum-kit and no cymbals, right?  If so, get the Mapex Pro M.  That's a very good kit.

...If you want to be different, sound good and have the kit look like a high-end kit....get the Sonor Force 2007 (100% Birch Shell)  This kit is too nasty!!! 

...other options for you:  Pearl Visions, Mapex M Birch, PDP MX, LX line, Clearanced but brand new Pearl SBX kit (Sick sounding kit.  If you find it, buy it.)

...STAY AWAY FROM DDRUM. >:( ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Needing Help Deciding....
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2008, 07:27:09 PM »

...okay so the Pearl Forum shouldn't even be considered a Pearl IMHO.  Dude, Pearl Visions kit is also a very good kit so don't judge Pearl by the crappy Forum kit.  I can't stand those either.

...so let me get something straight....this budget is just for the drum-kit and no cymbals, right?  If so, get the Mapex Pro M.  That's a very good kit.

...If you want to be different, sound good and have the kit look like a high-end kit....get the Sonor Force 2007 (100% Birch Shell)  This kit is too nasty!!! 

...other options for you:  Pearl Visions, Mapex M Birch, PDP MX, LX line, Clearanced but brand new Pearl SBX kit (Sick sounding kit.  If you find it, buy it.)

...STAY AWAY FROM DDRUM. >:( ;D ;D ;D


LOL @ your comment about Ddrum!  I looked at them for a hot second and decided against them quickly!  But yeah, the budget is just for the drum kit.  Actually the shells----no hardware, no cymbals, etc.  Plus I'm going to help out by purchasing a lot of the hardware myself.   But the more that I look at my options, the more I'm drawn to the Pro M.  But now man, you got me thinking about that Sonor!!  ;D  Thanks for making the decision just that much tougher!  ;)
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Re: Needing Help Deciding....
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2008, 07:28:45 PM »
For your budget range, SONOR FORCE. Hands down. IMHO

I've heard sweet things about Sonor man! I'm going to be looking hard at those for real.  Hopefully I can come to a decision soon...
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Re: Needing Help Deciding....
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2008, 07:38:24 PM »
Thanks for making the decision just that much tougher!  ;)

...dude, I'm known in these parts for making decisions tough. LOL 

...I was talking to bigblackdrummer the other day and he schooled me on something that I've never really thought of and will like to pass it on to you.  It's like "Common Sense" but we don't really think too hard about it because we're in a "New Drum Kit Honeymoon."  :-\


...bigblackdrummer (Mapex Sponsor - For now :-\ ;D) told me that whatever kit a church purchases they'll need to make sure they get very good, solid hardware.  Churches have different drummers play the set and they also need things to hold up and last.  Sooooo, durability is "A MUST" in Urban Churches.  With that said, make sure that you don't go cheap but neither super expensive on the hardware.  Look at the "New Hardware" Thread so that you too, like Yamboy, can do your research on what's been provided in that thread.
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Re: Needing Help Deciding....
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2008, 10:07:32 PM »
It's actually a Forum kit.


Aww, that don't even count - that's the Hamburger Helper of Pearl.  You haven't even tried the Filet Mignon yet.  *lol*

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« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2008, 10:09:47 PM »
"Don't" know it all M.O.M.'s get on my last nerve.  They're the ones that spend the churches money and then go be the M.O.M. at the church down the street. >:( ;) ;D

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Re: Needing Help Deciding....
« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2008, 10:12:59 PM »
...bigblackdrummer (Mapex Sponsor - For now :-\ ;D)

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Re: Needing Help Deciding....
« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2008, 10:16:52 PM »
Aww, that don't even count - that's the Hamburger Helper of Pearl.  You haven't even tried the Filet Mignon yet.  *lol*

I'll let the guys give their .


...other options for you: Clearanced but brand new Pearl SBX kit (Sick sounding kit.  If you find it, buy it.)


...well, well, well....look at what I found....

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Pearl-Session-Studio-Fusion-4Piece-Shell-Pack?sku=448920
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Re: Needing Help Deciding....
« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2008, 10:17:30 PM »
LOL!!!


Yeah our MOM didn't " Dip Set" But he sure likes to spend a pretty penny on a nice organ, pianos, and " Wireless Mics" >:( Then Im stuck with colapsing gear! :-\
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Re: Needing Help Deciding....
« Reply #19 on: January 10, 2008, 04:42:15 AM »
You may want to consider the Pearl Export Custom series as well.  They have seriously stepped up the quality of the Export series with this one.  They are 6-ply maple shells.  Maple shells are great for a live setting.  Pearl is a great company to stay with despite your experience with the Forum series.


Check out the official site just to learn more about the opitons that you have overall wth shells, hardware, etc.  When you shop armed with knowledge, it goes a long way.

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