Are we too opinionated¿

[SisterT]

Seasoned Christians who have the Holy Ghost know when their words do not reflect the character of Jesus Christ.

And yet, sometimes bad decision are made.

I find seasoned or not, that excuses are sometimes made for our behavior---

you got to accept me they way I am
I tell it like it is
I keep it real
I'm sarcastic
you gotta love me anyway

Wrong is wrong, regardless of the excuse.

I don't think the problem lies with our opinions---after all, we don't all think alike. I think the real issue is HOW we say it (tact) and if it was in good taste.

[LaylaMonroe]

And yet, sometimes bad decision are made.

I find seasoned or not, that excuses are sometimes made for our behavior---

you got to accept me they way I am
I tell it like it is
I keep it real
I'm sarcastic
you gotta love me anyway

Wrong is wrong, regardless of the excuse.

I don't think the problem lies with our opinions---after all, we don't all think alike. I think the real issue is HOW we say it (tact) and if it was in good taste.

You're absolutely right.  I, for one, have the Holy Ghost.  He consistently convicts me when I've said something or done something wrong, which is way more often than I'd like.  Nonetheless, as you said, even with the Holy Ghost, we (I) still make bad decisions, or don't make a conscious effort to restrain our words and actions.  Sometimes, we make excuses for it.  But, the more mature, humble and self-aware among us will simply admit that this is an area they need to work on.

No matter what the excuse, wrong IS still wrong, and wrong will always be wrong, no matter how we clean it up or cover it up.  I notice that we often feign tact by hiding sarcasm or hiding bitter malice underneath seemingly pleasant words.  Many of us have done it.  And even THAT is wrong.

Telling it like it is, being sarcastic, or keeping it real are not excuses for just saying whatever you feel like it without taking any thought to how it might make another person feel.  And I totally agree, the problem is definitely not with our opinions, but with how we deliver them and how we reject others whose opinions differ from ours.

I said all that to say this: COSIGN. 

Proverbs 15:1 - A soft answer turns away wrath, but grievous words stir up anger.

James 1:19? - Wherefore my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath.

Ephesians 5:4 (AMP) - Let there be no filthiness (obscenity, indecency) nor foolish and sinful (silly and corrupt) talk, nor coarse jesting, which are not fitting or becoming; but instead voice your thankfulness [to God].

Colossians 4:6 - Let your speech always be with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man.

[pastor rob]

You're absolutely right.  I, for one, have the Holy Ghost.  He consistently convicts me when I've said something or done something wrong, which is way more often than I'd like.  Nonetheless, as you said, even with the Holy Ghost, we (I) still make bad decisions, or don't make a conscious effort to restrain our words and actions.  Sometimes, we make excuses for it.  But, the more mature, humble and self-aware among us will simply admit that this is an area they need to work on.

No matter what the excuse, wrong IS still wrong, and wrong will always be wrong, no matter how we clean it up or cover it up.  I notice that we often feign tact by hiding sarcasm or hiding bitter malice underneath seemingly pleasant words.  Many of us have done it.  And even THAT is wrong.

Telling it like it is, being sarcastic, or keeping it real are not excuses for just saying whatever you feel like it without taking any thought to how it might make another person feel.  And I totally agree, the problem is definitely not with our opinions, but with how we deliver them and how we reject others whose opinions differ from ours.

I said all that to say this: COSIGN. 

Proverbs 15:1 - A soft answer turns away wrath, but grievous words stir up anger.

James 1:19? - Wherefore my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath.

Ephesians 5:4 (AMP) - Let there be no filthiness (obscenity, indecency) nor foolish and sinful (silly and corrupt) talk, nor coarse jesting, which are not fitting or becoming; but instead voice your thankfulness [to God].

Colossians 4:6 - Let your speech always be with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man.

this is so true. as someone who has a phd in sarcasm, i use to use the excuse this is just me. one day the Holy Spirit convicted me and spoke to me and ask isn't the objective to be more like Jesus. as we become more transparent we see who we are and change.

[bassthumpa]

Proverbs 15:1 - A soft answer turns away wrath, but grievous words stir up anger.

James 1:19? - Wherefore my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath.

Ephesians 5:4 (AMP) - Let there be no filthiness (obscenity, indecency) nor foolish and sinful (silly and corrupt) talk, nor coarse jesting, which are not fitting or becoming; but instead voice your thankfulness [to God].

Colossians 4:6 - Let your speech always be with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man.

Bottom line.

[LaylaMonroe]

this is so true. as someone who has a phd in sarcasm, i use to use the excuse this is just me. one day the Holy Spirit convicted me and spoke to me and ask isn't the objective to be more like Jesus. as we become more transparent we see who we are and change.

COSIGN

This deserves the greatest cosign I've ever given.  And I have that PhD in sarcasm, too.  Although I've done much better over the years, it does still try to rear its ugly head from time to time....  And, I'm still working on the "grace, seasoned with salt" part... lol.    But, it all comes down to seeing who we are, wanting to change, and deciding to be just like Jesus.

Bottom line.

Amen.

[chevonee]

This is a very good thread VTGUY!!!! Thank you for bringing this to our attention because it is VERY MUCH NEEDED. I know that I have alot of changing to do as far as the way I deal with other people. God bless you VT and thanks again.

[vtguy84]

I'm reading some of the posts and there are some great responses.

To clarify, maybe opinionated may not be the right word to use.  Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I think that we oftentimes forget that these people that we speak of have feelings as well. 

The truth is definitely the truth.  Anyone who knows me personally knows that I have no problem speaking the truth.  It's the 'in love' part where I feel we're missing it.  I know some say that if you are paying for something, you have a right to say it's garbage, but I tend to disagree.  I was always told to watch what you say because it always gets told at least twice. 

We should share our opinions about people/their works just as if we were sharing it to them personally.  I know, for one, would not be comfortable telling a person that their craft 'sucks' and 'should never do it'.

This thread partly comes about because I have noticed a disrespect of other members on the board.  I'm not calling specific encounters because that is not necessary, however please check yourselves and conduct in a manner that would be pleasing (and I'm talking to myself first).  We should not put down anyone's opinion/idea because we don't agree with it.

Love you family.

[chevonee]

I'm reading some of the posts and there are some great responses.

To clarify, maybe opinionated may not be the right word to use.  Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I think that we oftentimes forget that these people that we speak of have feelings as well. 

The truth is definitely the truth.  Anyone who knows me personally knows that I have no problem speaking the truth.  It's the 'in love' part where I feel we're missing it.  I know some say that if you are paying for something, you have a right to say it's garbage, but I tend to disagree.  I was always told to watch what you say because it always gets told at least twice. 

We should share our opinions about people/their works just as if we were sharing it to them personally.  I know, for one, would not be comfortable telling a person that their craft 'sucks' and 'should never do it'.

This thread partly comes about because I have noticed a disrespect of other members on the board.  I'm not calling specific encounters because that is not necessary, however please check yourselves and conduct in a manner that would be pleasing (and I'm talking to myself first).  We should not put down anyone's opinion/idea because we don't agree with it.

Love you family.

You are so right!!!!

[takuya]

This thread partly comes about because I have noticed a disrespect of other members on the board.

Let me guess...the other part is because you're coming out with an album soon that you don't want us trash talking.

[sjonathan02]

Let me guess...the other part is because you're coming out with an album soon that you don't want us trash talking.

 

[vtguy84]

Let me guess...the other part is because you're coming out with an album soon that you don't want us trash talking.

Not quite.