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Re: Will you vote for Obama or Hilary for PRESIDENT? Your OPINION counts!
« Reply #40 on: February 06, 2008, 11:51:14 AM »
Obama is charming and a good speaker.  He says things people like to hear.  The general public is in favor of changing the tired old system.  One catch; the system can only be changed by those who operate within the system.  Do you think congress is going to cut off their own perks?

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Re: Will you vote for Obama or Hilary for PRESIDENT? Your OPINION counts!
« Reply #41 on: February 06, 2008, 12:49:22 PM »
Obama is charming and a good speaker.  He says things people like to hear.  The general public is in favor of changing the tired old system.  One catch; the system can only be changed by those who operate within the system.  Do you think congress is going to cut off their own perks?


No, Congress will never cut their OWN perks.  It may look like they will just to have them disguised as kickbacks or write-offs of some other nature.  Obama is a non-polarizing candidate.  He draws people from either side.  I think that if he gets into office they will give him too much power...I think that the American people, being desperate for change, who give him unfettered authority to do what he will in the name of change. 

....I just don't know.

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Re: Will you vote for Obama or Hilary for PRESIDENT? Your OPINION counts!
« Reply #42 on: February 06, 2008, 01:08:50 PM »

No, Congress will never cut their OWN perks.  It may look like they will just to have them disguised as kickbacks or write-offs of some other nature.  Obama is a non-polarizing candidate.  He draws people from either side.  I think that if he gets into office they will give him too much power...I think that the American people, being desperate for change, who give him unfettered authority to do what he will in the name of change. 

....I just don't know.

Me either!!
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Re: Will you vote for Obama or Hilary for PRESIDENT? Your OPINION counts!
« Reply #43 on: February 06, 2008, 02:58:57 PM »
***Musiqsoul steps off the perfect 75 degree weather beach in his home in The Bahamas, fires up the lappy top, to inter the fray..*in hopes people hear him out even though he aint no American***

Well Lookey what we have here...I was wondering when this was going to surface here. Well if im allowed to voice my opinion, i have to say that my family members that are American have voted all across the divide for both candidates with the edge going to Obama

Here's the thing in my outside looking in view 8) ::) :

I like Both, but i feel Obama's youth is showing and he needs to now focus more on the issues, yes, talk change, but tell me how you will bring about the change more often.

Now Barack's Oratative skills are as we black folk say "off the hizzy" yes but im hearing the same things from him over and over like a robot! Sorry dude lets get the issues out there more offten along with the motivation, but all in all I think he's genuine.

Now here's what Irked me and  my American family members about Hillary and i can see why:

We talked back and forth alot as they asked me questions about the issues and how i felt seeming i keep up with US politics, and news around the world (and becuase they know i have a finance degree with a minor in Accounting so im an excelent numbers cruncher, who with my job does a lot off freelance work for major corprations)

People think we'll have the days of Bill's 90's party back but I gatta tell ya, not so fast, someone mentioned the the treaties and policies Bill signed which is still reverberating  today. Take Naafta for instance, while its good, but the dark cloud is this, lets look at a benefit of the free trade agreement naafta provided by tearing down tarriffs and the  trade barriers between the US,  Mexico and Canada, a direct boost for the agricultural industry, problem? One underlying factor nobody but a number cruncher would inevitably see : American Farmers and companies are competing with South American Farmers and companies for American businesses on an open scale and guess what they have better produce, better Chiquita Bananas, better grapes, and so on at better prices, meaning they'll get the "lions share" of the business, and have been getting it, putting American farmers at a competative lost since this thing has been signed, now you search Naffta, you'll  read how so good it is, how it benefits and the good its done, but the smoke screen is there for the economist and numbers people who know the deal, now granted Bill is not running and Hillary is but watch how this plays out..... This is one of many things that made Bill popular with Latinos and the latin community, Hillary is winning the vote of the Latinos, and it aint just for her immigration stance, and what more, the thing is you have the majority of Latins voting for her based on just popularity...hmmmm...

More decisions like this will happen if or when she gets in power, where you smoke screen your policies looking like its great for the people but in the end  the long term benefit is for me myself and I, now lets look at the  Health Care Hillary touts:

She wants to make it, and I quote "Universal" for all Americans to afford, but watch this....the word Universal is a bad word when you read between the lines, to see what she's really saying. "Universal" will transform and morph into the word "Mandatory"  Well ya know me, lets look at the numbers:

To do this she must work with her finance commitee to find a formula that would withold a portion of all salaries to reserve for  the Health care plan, where maybe you pay a percentage accordint to the salary you make, which would then mean low income pays a lower percentage and as you go up in salalry you pay a greater percentage, and if you pay a greater percentage you get better healthcare? NO everybody will get the same benefits accross the board...and that wont sit well with many Americans, but it will be Mandatory in that sence that employers will be required to extract this percentage to pay the Gov. and Uneversal for the fact that the medic aid will be across the board. thats just one scenario.

it could be the other way around, but my suggestions for the other primaries coming up after yesterday is to really know the facts, and hear what each candidate means when they say what they say.

I could disclose more info but this is enough to chew on.. I'd actually not Vote for any of them.

Maybe Huckabee

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Re: Will you vote for Obama or Hilary for PRESIDENT? Your OPINION counts!
« Reply #44 on: February 06, 2008, 03:05:33 PM »
Wow, Musiq.. Thats was LONG but okay!
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Re: Will you vote for Obama or Hilary for PRESIDENT? Your OPINION counts!
« Reply #45 on: February 06, 2008, 03:15:30 PM »
***Musiqsoul steps off the perfect 75 degree weather beach in his home in The Bahamas, fires up the lappy top, to inter the fray..*in hopes people hear him out even though he aint no American***

Well Lookey what we have here...I was wondering when this was going to surface here. Well if im allowed to voice my opinion, i have to say that my family members that are American have voted all across the divide for both candidates with the edge going to Obama

Here's the thing in my outside looking in view 8) ::) :

I like Both, but i feel Obama's youth is showing and he needs to now focus more on the issues, yes, talk change, but tell me how you will bring about the change more often.

Now Barack's Oratative skills are as we black folk say "off the hizzy" yes but im hearing the same things from him over and over like a robot! Sorry dude lets get the issues out there more offten along with the motivation, but all in all I think he's genuine.

Now here's what Irked me and  my American family members about Hillary and i can see why:

We talked back and forth alot as they asked me questions about the issues and how i felt seeming i keep up with US politics, and news around the world (and becuase they know i have a finance degree with a minor in Accounting so im an excelent numbers cruncher, who with my job does a lot off freelance work for major corprations)

People think we'll have the days of Bill's 90's party back but I gatta tell ya, not so fast, someone mentioned the the treaties and policies Bill signed which is still reverberating  today. Take Naafta for instance, while its good, but the dark cloud is this, lets look at a benefit of the free trade agreement naafta provided by tearing down tarriffs and the  trade barriers between the US,  Mexico and Canada, a direct boost for the agricultural industry, problem? One underlying factor nobody but a number cruncher would inevitably see : American Farmers and companies are competing with South American Farmers and companies for American businesses on an open scale and guess what they have better produce, better Chiquita Bananas, better grapes, and so on at better prices, meaning they'll get the "lions share" of the business, and have been getting it, putting American farmers at a competative lost since this thing has been signed, now you search Naffta, you'll  read how so good it is, how it benefits and the good its done, but the smoke screen is there for the economist and numbers people who know the deal, now granted Bill is not running and Hillary is but watch how this plays out..... This is one of many things that made Bill popular with Latinos and the latin community, Hillary is winning the vote of the Latinos, and it aint just for her immigration stance, and what more, the thing is you have the majority of Latins voting for her based on just popularity...hmmmm...

More decisions like this will happen if or when she gets in power, where you smoke screen your policies looking like its great for the people but in the end  the long term benefit is for me myself and I, now lets look at the  Health Care Hillary touts:

She wants to make it, and I quote "Universal" for all Americans to afford, but watch this....the word Universal is a bad word when you read between the lines, to see what she's really saying. "Universal" will transform and morph into the word "Mandatory"  Well ya know me, lets look at the numbers:

To do this she must work with her finance commitee to find a formula that would withold a portion of all salaries to reserve for  the Health care plan, where maybe you pay a percentage accordint to the salary you make, which would then mean low income pays a lower percentage and as you go up in salalry you pay a greater percentage, and if you pay a greater percentage you get better healthcare? NO everybody will get the same benefits accross the board...and that wont sit well with many Americans, but it will be Mandatory in that sence that employers will be required to extract this percentage to pay the Gov. and Uneversal for the fact that the medic aid will be across the board. thats just one scenario.

it could be the other way around, but my suggestions for the other primaries coming up after yesterday is to really know the facts, and hear what each candidate means when they say what they say.

I could disclose more info but this is enough to chew on.. I'd actually not Vote for any of them.

Maybe Huckabee

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Re: Will you vote for Obama or Hilary for PRESIDENT? Your OPINION counts!
« Reply #46 on: February 06, 2008, 07:34:48 PM »
been good Redy..LOL

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Re: Will you vote for Obama or Hilary for PRESIDENT? Your OPINION counts!
« Reply #47 on: February 06, 2008, 08:02:09 PM »
Osama!!

*err*

Excuse me, I meant Obama (even though im not in America), I think be a good leader ;)

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Re: Will you vote for Obama or Hilary for PRESIDENT? Your OPINION counts!
« Reply #48 on: February 06, 2008, 10:49:03 PM »
Osama!!

*err*

Excuse me, I meant Obama (even though im not in America), I think be a good leader ;)


Should we pick OBAMA because of the color of HIS skin? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Re: Will you vote for Obama or Hilary for PRESIDENT? Your OPINION counts!
« Reply #49 on: February 06, 2008, 11:18:33 PM »

Should we pick OBAMA because of the color of HIS skin? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

So should you pick Hilary just because shes a Woman???...............________________________ _________________!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Will you vote for Obama or Hilary for PRESIDENT? Your OPINION counts!
« Reply #50 on: February 06, 2008, 11:27:35 PM »
So should you pick Hilary just because shes a Woman???...............________________________ _________________!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


No, i didnt picK HILARY for that!!!
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Re: Will you vote for Obama or Hilary for PRESIDENT? Your OPINION counts!
« Reply #51 on: February 06, 2008, 11:33:21 PM »

No, i didnt picK HILARY for that!!!

Ok, just askin' ;) 8)

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Re: Will you vote for Obama or Hilary for PRESIDENT? Your OPINION counts!
« Reply #53 on: February 07, 2008, 03:00:53 AM »
I'm not voting for either one...I think John McCain will be better suited to run the nation.  J/K...seriously, I like both of the nominees for the democratic party.  I do favor Obama a lil more than Hilary!  My question is how many people actually know what party they are voting for before they meet the candidates?
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Re: Will you vote for Obama or Hilary for PRESIDENT? Your OPINION counts!
« Reply #54 on: February 07, 2008, 09:39:14 AM »
I am going for Barak Obama. The brother has it together, he's speaks very fluently, and he has policies that I must agree with.

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Re: Will you vote for Obama or Hilary for PRESIDENT? Your OPINION counts!
« Reply #55 on: February 07, 2008, 10:30:37 AM »
Oh okay, go right ahead and vote for OBAMA... When America gets destroyed, plz dont be crying...
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Re: Will you vote for Obama or Hilary for PRESIDENT? Your OPINION counts!
« Reply #56 on: February 07, 2008, 10:51:31 AM »
Being a Black woman, I am BOLDLY casting my vote for OBAMA, not only because he too is Black, but because of the compassion, empathy, and understanding he could bring to the white house. Far too many  have convinced Black people that to be in favor of our own is politically inappropriate. They have convinced us that all of the suffering this country has subjected us to has been resolved, yet we continue to be stung. Whenever we complain, we are accused of either whining or playing the ' RACE CARD". How COULD ANY ONE minimize the scores and scores, I daresay centuries we have , abd are still suffering by comparing it with a card game? We haven't nor ever will be given a TRUMP card in this game! OBAMA in '08!!!! :D  :)!!!

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Re: Will you vote for Obama or Hilary for PRESIDENT? Your OPINION counts!
« Reply #57 on: February 07, 2008, 10:55:55 AM »
Being a Black woman, I am BOLDLY casting my vote for OBAMA, not only because he too is Black, but because of the compassion, empathy, and understanding he could bring to the white house. Far too many  have convinced Black people that to be in favor of our own is politically inappropriate. They have convinced us that all of the suffering this country has subjected us to has been resolved, yet we continue to be stung. Whenever we complain, we are accused of either whining or playing the ' RACE CARD". How COULD ANY ONE minimize the scores and scores, I daresay centuries we have , abd are still suffering by comparing it with a card game? We haven't nor ever will be given a TRUMP card in this game! OBAMA in '08!!!! :D  :)!!!


Oh... Very interesting!!!!
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Re: Will you vote for Obama or Hilary for PRESIDENT? Your OPINION counts!
« Reply #58 on: February 07, 2008, 11:12:50 AM »
SEE..many people in this post have proven a point I've been saying all along.  This is just like SUNDAY MORNING PREACHING....people getting all caught in the HYPE and HOOP of it....but at the end of the day if you asked these same people what dfid the man REALLY say....they can't tell you thing. :-\  That's exactly how I feel about being caught up in the OBAMA craze.  Talking about how well he speaks...how inspiring he sounds...etc.  But what did he SAY?  His stances on some critical issues have been very vague and not well thought out.

As for the person who said they didn't like what HILLARY CLINTON said about KING and JOHNSON....please tell me what she said that was so wrong?  KING did inspire the CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT but it did take PRESIDENT JOHNSON to turn the CIVIL RIGHTS ACT into law.  If say NIXON were in office at the time...KING's I HAVE A DREAM speech would have been nothing more than another inspiring sermon.

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Re: Will you vote for Obama or Hilary for PRESIDENT? Your OPINION counts!
« Reply #59 on: February 07, 2008, 11:27:33 AM »
I'm actually on the fence about who I want to be the Democratic nominee, though it does not really matter for me because my state has already held its primary, and NONE of the Democratic votes even counted, since my state was stupid enoguh to move their primary date up too early!! >:(

However, Musiq (good to see you, mane!)  :) to be fair, it was on the news that Hillary was adamantly AGAINST her husband signing NAFTA, and she and Bill Clinton were on opposite sides of that argument. She hated the fact that he signed that bill, so it might not be fair to suggest that she will be a total carbon-copy of ALL of her husband's administration.

And if you are seriously considering voting for Crook-a-bee, or Huch-a-Yuck, I am seriously going to pray for you, mane!

BTW Mitt Romney is suspending his campaign! I'm sure this is partly due to the back room, underhanded politics of Huckabee, who wants so desparately to be the VP nominee! :-\
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