Are there any Gospel/Church Songs that you Dont like???

[sjonathan02]

curious, what is it?

Good question.  If not 'Hallelujah', then what is the highest praise we can shout unto God?

[Steelpulz]

curious, what is it?

Good question.  If not 'Hallelujah', then what is the highest praise we can shout unto God?

Not to sidetrack things too far, but hallelujah is literally a command or exhortation to praise God. It's like me shouting "Shut the door!!" and instead of shutting the door, you holler back at me " Shut the door!" So, what we are doing is shouting, "You, praise God!" to each other. From Wikipedia, "Hallelujah, also spelled halleluiah, halleluyah, and the Greek and Latin form alleluia are transliterations of the Hebrew word הללו יה (Modern halleluya, Tiberian halləlûyāh) meaning "Praise ye Yah" or "Praise Jah, you people"."

As to what is really the "Highest Praise", I am not sure. It may be that for us humans, simple obedience is the highest praise. However, as far as I can tell, the highest praise mentioned in scripture is found Revelation 4:1-9. I don't think praise gets higher than that!!

[blyempowered]

Not to sidetrack things too far, but hallelujah is literally a command or exhortation to praise God. It's like me shouting "Shut the door!!" and instead of shutting the door, you holler back at me " Shut the door!" So, what we are doing is shouting, "You, praise God!" to each other. From Wikipedia, "Hallelujah, also spelled halleluiah, halleluyah, and the Greek and Latin form alleluia are transliterations of the Hebrew word הללו יה (Modern halleluya, Tiberian halləlûyāh) meaning "Praise ye Yah" or "Praise Jah, you people"."

As to what is really the "Highest Praise", I am not sure. It may be that for us humans, simple obedience is the highest praise. However, as far as I can tell, the highest praise mentioned in scripture is found Revelation 4:1-9. I don't think praise gets higher than that!!

I'm probably playing sematics here but in my opinion worship is the highest praise because to me, worship comes before praise. I worship God simply based on who He is and His worth to me. Therefore as I worship God with my life (as you noted) through my giving, living and serving I'm offering God the highest praise which is my life as a sacrifice to Him.

It probably doesn't matter but it looked too good for me to be quiet....LOL!!

[sjonathan02]

Not to sidetrack things too far, but hallelujah is literally a command or exhortation to praise God. It's like me shouting "Shut the door!!" and instead of shutting the door, you holler back at me " Shut the door!" So, what we are doing is shouting, "You, praise God!" to each other. From Wikipedia, "Hallelujah, also spelled halleluiah, halleluyah, and the Greek and Latin form alleluia are transliterations of the Hebrew word הללו יה (Modern halleluya, Tiberian halləlûyāh) meaning "Praise ye Yah" or "Praise Jah, you people"."

As to what is really the "Highest Praise", I am not sure. It may be that for us humans, simple obedience is the highest praise. However, as far as I can tell, the highest praise mentioned in scripture is found Revelation 4:1-9. I don't think praise gets higher than that!!

So, you're saying when people say 'Praise the Lord, Hallelujah' (or vice versa), they're saying, 'Praise the Lord, Praise the Lord'?

[Steelpulz]

I'm probably playing sematics here but in my opinion worship is the highest praise because to me, worship comes before praise. I worship God simply based on who He is and His worth to me. Therefore as I worship God with my life (as you noted) through my giving, living and serving I'm offering God the highest praise which is my life as a sacrifice to Him.

It probably doesn't matter but it looked too good for me to be quiet....LOL!!

I do not disagree :-)

So, you're saying when people say 'Praise the Lord, Hallelujah' (or vice versa), they're saying, 'Praise the Lord, Praise the Lord'?

Exactly, they are not literally saying the equivalent of "God I praise You" when they say hallelujah, They are literally saying, "Hey all of you people praise God" But I don't think that's what people think they are saying.

[Manofchrist101]

put a note in my inbox if you wanna see me do a youtube clip on this

[pastor j sands]

stirs pot................is it really necessary? 

[sjonathan02]

stirs pot................is it really necessary? 

[LaylaMonroe]

Steelpulz is right. I thought we went over this before on LGM but maybe not.

But yeah, he's right. I think the reason people say hallelujah is the highest praise is that it is the highest praise of all praises one can give. For example, you can praise your children for being obedient. You can praise your employees for a job well done. You can praise friends for accomplishments. But the highest praise you can give is one you give to God.

However, in the way that it has been taught in our churches, as though there are 10 praises you can give to God and hallelujah is the highest one of the ten.... that's not true and there's nothing in the Word to indicate that it is.

[Arkhams Finest]

Not to sidetrack things too far, but hallelujah is literally a command or exhortation to praise God. It's like me shouting "Shut the door!!" and instead of shutting the door, you holler back at me " Shut the door!" So, what we are doing is shouting, "You, praise God!" to each other. From Wikipedia, "Hallelujah, also spelled halleluiah, halleluyah, and the Greek and Latin form alleluia are transliterations of the Hebrew word הללו יה (Modern halleluya, Tiberian halləlûyāh) meaning "Praise ye Yah" or "Praise Jah, you people"."

As to what is really the "Highest Praise", I am not sure. It may be that for us humans, simple obedience is the highest praise. However, as far as I can tell, the highest praise mentioned in scripture is found Revelation 4:1-9. I don't think praise gets higher than that!!

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*Goes to study*

[Arkhams Finest]

Are there any Gospel/Church Songs that you Dont like???

Any song that references 'Haters'.

[Fenix]

"I give myself away"

That song takes out of the Presence...

[KeyofB]

Hmmm not stir the pot anymore.....That is the epistemology of the word Hallelujah.....but if we want to get in to sematics then it would be the highest praise because according to semantics people define what a word means outside of the epistemology....the feeling a word takes on or the meaning given to it by the majority is what its "true meaning" is. Okay that was a really academic explanation but #IJS


Songs I don't like, don't get me started but:

Lord I say Thank You x Lisa Page Brooks
Better than That x Phil Tarver
I won't complain x Paul Jones (I Think)

[Steelpulz]

Hmmm not stir the pot anymore.....That is the epistemology of the word Hallelujah.....but if we want to get in to sematics then it would be the highest praise because according to semantics people define what a word means outside of the epistemology....the feeling a word takes on or the meaning given to it by the majority is what its "true meaning" is. Okay that was a really academic explanation but #IJS

Good point.

[blyempowered]

Hmmm not stir the pot anymore.....That is the epistemology of the word Hallelujah.....but if we want to get in to sematics then it would be the highest praise because according to semantics people define what a word means outside of the epistemology....the feeling a word takes on or the meaning given to it by the majority is what its "true meaning" is. Okay that was a really academic explanation but #IJS


Songs I don't like, don't get me started but:

Lord I say Thank You x Lisa Page Brooks
Better than That x Phil Tarver
I won't complain x Paul Jones (I Think)

So meanings of words are not absolute but socially constructed? Or is that just in the context of semantics?

#Ifeelmyacademichelpcoming 

[SirTJ]

So meanings of words are not absolute but socially constructed? Or is that just in the context of semantics?

#Ifeelmyacademichelpcoming 

I learned this in Communications, but I'm too lazy to find the notes and give a detailed answer. It's something about signified and signifier. If I say "beast", what do you think of? The word beast is the signifier and whatever you think of is the signified. This means that if I say "beast" to 12 people, they're not all thinking of the same thing. Same word, various interpretations. Thus, language and definitions are culturally constructed.

Maybe this is why the Bible says man looks at the outside, but God looks at the heart. He's more concerned with intent than semantics.

[KeyofB]

I would say in life, that is true also. Think about the N word. Is that what does that word really mean and does it really matter what it originally meant anymore?

[blyempowered]

I would say in life, that is true also. Think about the N word. Is that what does that word really mean and does it really matter what it originally meant anymore?

In my opinion, yes it matters and that's why I think we should stop using that word.

@TJ Hmmm. Very interesting.

[sjonathan02]

I would say in life, that is true also. Think about the N word. Is that what does that word really mean and does it really matter what it originally meant anymore?

Speaking of language barriers...

[KeyofB]

Sorry typo! Wow. That was convoluted. But you get my point.

@blyempowered No, I mean what it meant before that. The root of the word is actually negroid which isn't really offensive at all and is a scientific term.