OUT OF ORDER!

[under13]

LGM Family,

Many of us were sincere in our opinions about this complex issue of sexuality in the church. Biblically, sexual immorality was a huge challenge in the early church. Pagan influence ran rampant in many of the fellowships. In today's times, sexual immorality has again reared its ugly head because we haven't been wise enough to have open dialouge about our successes, failures, fears, predjudice and ignorance. We have accepted a secular approach to the ordained principles of the spirit of God. We have a Talladega nights type of approach to how we view Jesus. For the benefit of those who aren't movie buffs consider this...

There is a scene where Will Ferrell prays to Jesus at the different stages of his life. He argues with his family at the dinner table which Jesus they should pray to. This mentality is a microcosm of how we have reduced the power of the Holyghost in the BOC. WE love the Jesus who releases us from sin but we forget about the Jesus who challenged the religious leaders of his day to repent. The same Jesus that could spit on the ground and make a salve that would open a man's eyes could also take a whip and drive some people out who weren't worthy of being in the church. I'm not saying that we take that approach for this issue but I am saying that we must remember Jesus in his quest to gather people also scattered those who didn't want to change.

The first three chapters of revelations deal with the spirit of GOD judging the seven churches. One church in particular was permitting Jezebel to teach in the church inspite of her sexual immorality. Notice it didn't say what the immorality was. It didn't say whether it was gay or straight. It said sexual immorality. Yes we  can accept people into our fellowships as they are however the danger is in us not warning our people of the threat of judgement that hovers over our heads. To many times we are so focused on the day to day operations of our "ministries" as if we all have made it in already... MEN may agree with sexual deviants serving in the church but the SPIRIT OF GOD who speaks to the churches doesn't..... Read the first three chapters of Revelations if you dare... That really puts alot of our reasoning to bed.. GOD HATES SEXUAL SIN OF ANY KIND!!!!!!! IT MAKES HIM SICK.. Procreation is the closet representation of his nature that man can get in the earth realm... More on that later... peace fam

You are Definatley the Best poster on this site.

[NJTheBishopAnderson]

You are Definatley the Best poster on this site.

You are entitled to your own opinion... SJon, care to comment? 

I really can't believe this thread has gone on this... *pauses* You know what, I'm NOT surprised about it. What I AM surprised about is the fact that I'm 'bout to give a reply.

Anywho, I think the problem we have here is understanding the difference in having homosexuals attend your church verses having the "spirit of homosexuality" prevalent within your church.

An Openly Gay Church

[sjonathan02]

You are entitled to your own opinion... SJon, care to comment? 

I really can't believe this thread has gone on this... *pauses* You know what, I'm NOT surprised about it. What I AM surprised about is the fact that I'm 'bout to give a reply.

Anywho, I think the problem we have here is the understanding the difference in having homosexuals attend your church verses having the "spirit of homosexuality" prevalent within your church.

An Openly Gay Church

Nah, I think you covered it quite eloquently... More on that later.  

[ILive2WorshipHim]

LGM Family,

Many of us were sincere in our opinions about this complex issue of sexuality in the church. Biblically, sexual immorality was a huge challenge in the early church. Pagan influence ran rampant in many of the fellowships. In today's times, sexual immorality has again reared its ugly head because we haven't been wise enough to have open dialouge about our successes, failures, fears, predjudice and ignorance. We have accepted a secular approach to the ordained principles of the spirit of God. We have a Talladega nights type of approach to how we view Jesus. For the benefit of those who aren't movie buffs consider this...

There is a scene where Will Ferrell prays to Jesus at the different stages of his life. He argues with his family at the dinner table which Jesus they should pray to. This mentality is a microcosm of how we have reduced the power of the Holyghost in the BOC. WE love the Jesus who releases us from sin but we forget about the Jesus who challenged the religious leaders of his day to repent. The same Jesus that could spit on the ground and make a salve that would open a man's eyes could also take a whip and drive some people out who weren't worthy of being in the church. I'm not saying that we take that approach for this issue but I am saying that we must remember Jesus in his quest to gather people also scattered those who didn't want to change.

The first three chapters of revelations deal with the spirit of GOD judging the seven churches. One church in particular was permitting Jezebel to teach in the church inspite of her sexual immorality. Notice it didn't say what the immorality was. It didn't say whether it was gay or straight. It said sexual immorality. Yes we  can accept people into our fellowships as they are however the danger is in us not warning our people of the threat of judgement that hovers over our heads. To many times we are so focused on the day to day operations of our "ministries" as if we all have made it in already... MEN may agree with sexual deviants serving in the church but the SPIRIT OF GOD who speaks to the churches doesn't..... Read the first three chapters of Revelations if you dare... That really puts alot of our reasoning to bed.. GOD HATES SEXUAL SIN OF ANY KIND!!!!!!! IT MAKES HIM SICK.. Procreation is the closet representation of his nature that man can get in the earth realm... More on that later... peace fam

SPEAK ON IT!!

[jjblack]

LGM Family,

We have a Talladega nights type of approach to how we view Jesus. For the benefit of those who aren't movie buffs consider this...

There is a scene where Will Ferrell prays to Jesus at the different stages of his life. He argues with his family at the dinner table which Jesus they should pray to. This mentality is a microcosm of how we have reduced the power of the Holyghost in the BOC. WE love the Jesus who releases us from sin but we forget about the Jesus who challenged the religious leaders of his day to repent. The same Jesus that could spit on the ground and make a salve that would open a man's eyes could also take a whip and drive some people out who weren't worthy of being in the church. I'm not saying that we take that approach for this issue but I am saying that we must remember Jesus in his quest to gather people also scattered those who didn't want to change.

WOW! Did he just pull his text from Talledega Nights... WOW!

All joking aside, great analogy.

[Fenix]

You are definitely the best poster on this site.

Its because he THINKS before posting. I am also trying my hand at this "thinking" concept. It is quite novel to me.

[under13]

Its because he THINKS before posting. I am also trying my hand at this "thinking" concept. It is quite novel to me.

I like his post cuz he's not afraid to speak his mind even when it might not be well recieved. And I've seen him shut down a few threads, in which after he posted, couldnt nobody else say nothin

I think everyone would apreciate if I were to think more b4 I post

[LaylaMonroe]

I like his post cuz he's not afraid to speak his mind even when it might not be well recieved.

I agree.  I also admire FS because he is usually quite informed on what he's posting about, he takes the time (usually) to read through the thread before posting, and he doesn't really care who agrees with him and who doesn't.

I think everyone would apreciate if I were to think more b4 I post

Well since you mentioned it... 

I can't speak for everyone, but I certainly would appreciate that. 

[under13]

I agree.  I also admire FS because he is usually quite informed on what he's posting about, he takes the time (usually) to read through the thread before posting, and he doesn't really care who agrees with him and who doesn't.

Well since you mentioned it... 

I can't speak for everyone, but I certainly would appreciate that. 

I knew either you or sjon was gonna reply to that

[themidiroom]

I think everyone would apreciate if I were to think more b4 I post

Awww c'mon, thinking is highly overrated.   

Or at least that's what they told me in college. 

[LaylaMonroe]

I knew either you or sjon was gonna reply to that

Here's a quarter for being right.

*tossing a quarter*

[tkdrumplaya!]

I am a beginer on playing the drums and i dont know where to start but i kinda make up my own beats and they sound nice but i would like to know how to start! Can some one help please...thanks!

[Fenix]

I am a beginer on playing the drums and i dont know where to start but i kinda make up my own beats and they sound nice but i would like to know how to start! Can some one help please...thanks!

 

[nessalynn77]

I am a beginer on playing the drums and i dont know where to start but i kinda make up my own beats and they sound nice but i would like to know how to start! Can some one help please...thanks!

You might try the drum forum.  At the top of your screen on the right side, click on the drums icon, that should take you there.  A word of caution, enter humbly, the drum room can get a little er... rambunctious, but those fellas (and a few ladies) know their stuff and can teach you a lot. 

[THE WOLFMAN]

wha happened to LilLamb anyway?

[NJTheBishopAnderson]

WHAT DA DEBIL??!?!?!?!

Whos the gravedigger?? 

[Ladyn]

wha happened to LilLamb anyway?

Yea, what he said.  Where is she? Has anyone heard from her?