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Offline Ladyn

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Re: do I need to learn songs?
« Reply #20 on: March 26, 2008, 10:56:03 AM »
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Re: do I need to learn songs?
« Reply #21 on: March 26, 2008, 10:58:37 AM »
ok, I think I figured it out this time!

I have to get the green stars so I can edit!

http://img187.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lordyoureholyhz8xc0.jpg
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Re: do I need to learn songs?
« Reply #22 on: March 26, 2008, 11:35:58 AM »
Quote from: Ladyn on March 26, 2008, 10:58:37 AM
ok, I think I figured it out this time!

I have to get the green stars so I can edit!

http://img187.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lordyoureholyhz8xc0.jpg


If U want the pic to appear here, put the link between this code:



I'm about to view that example..
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Re: do I need to learn songs?
« Reply #23 on: March 26, 2008, 11:40:15 AM »
oops! I made a moemish above, let's try again:

open square brackets img]  your pic link [/img  & close bracket
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Re: do I need to learn songs?
« Reply #24 on: March 26, 2008, 11:44:27 AM »
Just highlight the link and press this button
or press it first and paste the link in between the beackets
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Re: do I need to learn songs?
« Reply #25 on: March 26, 2008, 11:48:08 AM »
Interesting way to remember stuff Ladyn..

I wish U your P&W teams co-operation when it comes to using those sheets.. ;D

But I think the method is excellent.
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Re: do I need to learn songs?
« Reply #26 on: March 26, 2008, 01:29:32 PM »


http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/1263/lordyoureholyhz8xc0.jpg

Trying this again.  I am having trouble resizing this.  It was way too big; now it is a bit small. Just click on the link to see it clearer. 
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Re: do I need to learn songs?
« Reply #27 on: March 26, 2008, 02:28:10 PM »
use photobucket. it works a lot better. Image shack tries to install stuff on your computer when you click on the link. >:(

And I wish somone would try to give me music like that to learn. I'd be lost. Just give me the cd   :D
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Re: do I need to learn songs?
« Reply #28 on: March 26, 2008, 03:18:40 PM »
Quote from: Ladyn on March 26, 2008, 01:29:32 PM


http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/1263/lordyoureholyhz8xc0.jpg

Trying this again.  I am having trouble resizing this.  It was way too big; now it is a bit small. Just click on the link to see it clearer. 


You must be a music major. That's alot to look at. lol
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Re: do I need to learn songs?
« Reply #29 on: March 26, 2008, 09:57:37 PM »



Ok here we go!  This was given to me by someone else. I now do all of my songs like this just to help me memorize them better.  This also helps the whole band know what direction we are going. 

I am not a music major yet. I plan on starting school in the fall though. 
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Re: do I need to learn songs?
« Reply #30 on: March 26, 2008, 10:27:47 PM »
Huh??  I wish someone would explain this.  It seems like you guys understand.  This reminds me of that mathmatical equation someone posted recently.
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Re: do I need to learn songs?
« Reply #31 on: March 26, 2008, 11:04:02 PM »
ok, if you pay no attention to the rhythmic notation and just look at the numbers it will make more sense.  Of course knowing the song would help it make more sense.   A( 6-) is just a diatonic 6 or just the 6 minor chord.  In this system everything is notated like you may have a little diamond next to a number that simply means play a M7 chord. The dots over the notes denote staccato etc. I have simpler ones that I can show you too. YOu don't have to have all of the extra notation for this to work.  It does make transposition much simpler since the whole band will learn a number pattern for the song .  The other advantage is space. This is a long song and if I wrote this out in lead sheet format it would be a couple of pages long.  This also helps me learn as I do songs in this format.  One thing I do is to take a song I know and put it down in this format.
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Re: do I need to learn songs?
« Reply #32 on: March 27, 2008, 12:27:40 AM »
Oh, I see, thanks.  It looks like you titled each line like, "I" for intro, "V" for Vamp, "Ch" for chorus.  I think I got it.  This is a  good "mixed" system.  The fact that you mixed in the beats by notation is pretty advanced(quarter notes[1,2,3,4]).  You would have to be able to read music and understand theory to play this peice.  I think I would have to start with a purely progression pattern.
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Re: do I need to learn songs?
« Reply #33 on: March 27, 2008, 05:32:04 AM »
.........I would learn how to incorporate the melody into each song so that the people singing or listening know what you are doing....The single biggest complaint people have about the keys is that they feel what the player played was great....but it has nothing to do with the song...and they play it different every time.....

....what they dont see is what it takes to get to know each song......

....so familiarize yourself with the melodies of these songs and find a way to incorporate them in your playing...

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Re: do I need to learn songs?
« Reply #34 on: March 27, 2008, 10:53:56 AM »
Ladyn, what song is that u got there?  I think I would be able to follow it better if I knew the song.
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Re: do I need to learn songs?
« Reply #35 on: March 27, 2008, 11:27:19 AM »
Quote from: T-Block on March 27, 2008, 10:53:56 AM
Ladyn, what song is that u got there?  I think I would be able to follow it better if I knew the song.

This system only works if you know the song or have a copy of it.  I know it may be a bit busy, but I have grown to like it a lot. I have some that are not as detailed that are much easier on the eyes.

It is "Lord YOu're Holy" By Karen Wheaton

some of the lyrics:
Lord You're Holy, Lord You're Holy, and we lift you up and magnify your name.

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Re: do I need to learn songs?
« Reply #36 on: March 27, 2008, 11:43:14 AM »
Quote from: Ladyn on March 27, 2008, 11:27:19 AM
This system only works if you know the song or have a copy of it.  I know it may be a bit busy, but I have grown to like it a lot. I have some that are not as detailed that are much easier on the eyes.

It is "Lord YOu're Holy" By Karen Wheaton

some of the lyrics:
Lord You're Holy, Lord You're Holy, and we lift you up and magnify your name.



Is that the one done by Mississippi Mass Choir?
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Re: do I need to learn songs?
« Reply #37 on: March 27, 2008, 01:27:56 PM »
Quote from: T-Block on March 27, 2008, 11:43:14 AM
Is that the one done by Mississippi Mass Choir?


on their "Amazing Love" CD, I believe so.  There are atleast 3 different versions of that song, by three different artists, that I've heard.
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Re: do I need to learn songs?
« Reply #38 on: March 27, 2008, 02:48:43 PM »
Quote from: uriahsmusic on March 27, 2008, 05:32:04 AM
.........I would learn how to incorporate the melody into each song so that the people singing or listening know what you are doing....The single biggest complaint people have about the keys is that they feel what the player played was great....but it has nothing to do with the song...and they play it different every time.....

....what they dont see is what it takes to get to know each song......

....so familiarize yourself with the melodies of these songs and find a way to incorporate them in your playing...



On that note, I find it very very difficult to play without the melody..so i have alot of learning to do..
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Re: do I need to learn songs?
« Reply #39 on: March 27, 2008, 02:55:00 PM »
Quote from: T-Block on March 27, 2008, 11:43:14 AM
Is that the one done by Mississippi Mass Choir?

Yep, that's it. 
Quote from: uriahsmusic on March 27, 2008, 05:32:04 AM
.........I would learn how to incorporate the melody into each song so that the people singing or listening know what you are doing....The single biggest complaint people have about the keys is that they feel what the player played was great....but it has nothing to do with the song...and they play it different every time.....

....what they dont see is what it takes to get to know each song......

....so familiarize yourself with the melodies of these songs and find a way to incorporate them in your playing...




This is so important! The reason I even started learning to  play was because I sang on the P&W team and there were many times we were guessing what was being played!  EVen the MOM was having a hard time hearing where to come in etc.  I always keep the melody on top, in other words I use the inversion of the chord that allows the melody note to be the highest pitch. 
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