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Re: Secular music in gospel........
« Reply #60 on: March 14, 2008, 02:01:26 PM »
I've played a little bit of everywhere.  Hotel gigs, did the casino once, private parties, bars, pubs, college student functions, banquets, etc.  I will attempt to play anything.  R&B, jazz, smooth jazz, pop, blues, reggae, rock, soul.  I do it mostly to keep my chops together and it's good side money and an opportunity for me to promote my studio.

Thats kinda what I wanna do, hopefully soon.
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Re: Secular music in gospel........
« Reply #61 on: March 14, 2008, 02:06:56 PM »
AMEN, AMEN, and AMEN.  We heard a little of "Rite Of Spring" in class today.
HALLE-LUJAH! Go head T-Block. You vibin' with me. I'm feeling energized right now. What class did you listen to it in? What else are y'all listening to in that class?

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Re: Secular music in gospel........
« Reply #62 on: March 14, 2008, 02:19:49 PM »
Thats kinda what I wanna do, hopefully soon.
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I'll have to work on that.  I've had my eye on a video camera for a while.
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Re: Secular music in gospel........
« Reply #63 on: March 14, 2008, 02:32:59 PM »
HALLE-LUJAH! Go head T-Block. You vibin' with me. I'm feeling energized right now. What class did you listen to it in? What else are y'all listening to in that class?

The class is Music History III.  We studying all the composers of the 20 century, starting with Mahler.  We been through Mahler, Strauss, Puccini, Debussy, Ravel, Ives, Bartok, Schoenberg, Webern, and Stravinsky.  I'm really loving this class cuz the other 2 music history classes were BORING!!!
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Re: Secular music in gospel........
« Reply #64 on: March 14, 2008, 03:21:17 PM »
Until they get to the 20th century it's often boring. Bach, Beethoven, Mozart aren't boring they're just really tonal because it's the classical period but teachers don't know how to relay it so that it's interesting to our 21st century ears. Late Beethoven starts to get interesting and more harmonically complex.

What do you think of Schoenberg? Mahler is another favorite of mine.

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Re: Secular music in gospel........
« Reply #65 on: March 15, 2008, 09:27:46 AM »
Until they get to the 20th century it's often boring. Bach, Beethoven, Mozart aren't boring they're just really tonal because it's the classical period but teachers don't know how to relay it so that it's interesting to our 21st century ears. Late Beethoven starts to get interesting and more harmonically complex.

What do you think of Schoenberg? Mahler is another favorite of mine.

You're right, learning about music before the 20th century was kinda boring.  But, it wasn't really the music, for me it was my teacher.  He spoke in almost monotone voice for every lecture (think Ben Stein w/slight voice fluctuations, lol).  If he had made his lectures more lively, I would have gotten into it more.

Now Schoenberg is da man.  His way of making a formal structure for atonality was simply genius.  Everybody after him owes him a great deal of gratitude.

My favorites right now are Chopin, Beethoven, Bach, Mozart, and Scott Joplin.  I got a few Chopin pieces, Beethoven's entire Moonlight Sonanta, and a couple Scott Joplin pieces in the works for my senior recital in about a year.  It's some hard stuff, but it's fun.
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Re: Secular music in gospel........
« Reply #66 on: March 15, 2008, 10:30:57 AM »
You're right, learning about music before the 20th century was kinda boring.  But, it wasn't really the music, for me it was my teacher.  He spoke in almost monotone voice for every lecture (think Ben Stein w/slight voice fluctuations, lol).  If he had made his lectures more lively, I would have gotten into it more.




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Re: Secular music in gospel........
« Reply #67 on: March 15, 2008, 11:09:46 AM »

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Re: Secular music in gospel........
« Reply #68 on: March 15, 2008, 06:23:40 PM »
I'm 31, and I've been playing the keyboard for only about a year now.  You have to really guard your temple.  Don't over

estimate the power of music.  Music definitely can set the atmosphere.

Lucifer was in charge of music in heaven.  And with that he was able to win 1/3 of the angels.   

He is still using music to win souls for his kingdom today.  We can obviously see that in current times.

I think many christian musicians listen/use secular music as an excuse to "stay in touch" with what the world is doing.

But God blessed us with gifts and talents for his glory.  And we don't need to use a Beyonce beat, or a Michael Jackson riff

to spread the good news.  Greater is he that is in me than he that is in the world. Think about it?  If you play a Beyonce

beat, and a worldly person hears it and recognizes it, what do you think they are going to think?  Is this musician a

christian?  Beyonce music must please God if the christian musicians are playing her music?  Everything goes?????

Musicans should be very careful what they are playing.  Do not become an enabler for a worldy person. 

Remember, the #1 goal is to win souls. Don't ever forget it.

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Re: Secular music in gospel........
« Reply #69 on: March 15, 2008, 07:40:15 PM »
i guess what he meant by secular music is the nasty and dirty lyrics that is heard in most musics such as hip-hop and R&B. to be honest, i stop listening to those types of music, however i listen to music that aren't that dirty. I listen to smooth jazz and sometimes techno.

i understand your viewpoint-- many gospel music are influenced by hip-hop beats, etc. You see many gospel artists recording with secular artists. In my viewpoint, if you really want to record with a secular artist, you have to check their background first. Most secular artists have bad background and bad mentality, always into drugs and guns for murder. And to record a gospel music with them would just make the gospel music not what it should be.

Gospel music is suppose to spread the gospel of Christ and as long as people get the message rather than dancing and enjoying the beat, then that is good.

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Re: Secular music in gospel........
« Reply #70 on: March 17, 2008, 11:08:23 AM »
hey people i apologize for initiating this subject and not responding.. I really appreciate all you comments....Ok the truth is.......ok ok. Man i brought The Stevie Wonder Anthology album and the relavent song book and almost lost my mind man........lol...this dude chord arrangment and progression are just.... are just.......i dont know....but im finished.....oh and if any beginner/intermidiate or even advance learner is looking for a challenging song with chords and pregressions youre not use to,  one song comes to mind...'Send one your love" Im a intermidiate player i think and if anyone heard or attempted this song holla back.......Well since this is a gospel site ill but my gospel peice in..ummmmm ..Israel and new breed are a great group....lol lol...hope you all find the humor in this.....Be Blessed

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Re: Secular music in gospel........
« Reply #71 on: March 17, 2008, 05:40:55 PM »
..Well since this is a gospel site ill but my gospel peice in..ummmmm ..

 ::) Does the part of scripture that says be ready in & out of season apply here?? ::) :-\


Israel and new breed are a great group....lol lol...hope you all find the humor in this.....Be Blessed



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