You're a machine!

[littlelamb]

I hate learning fugues, they so doggone hard, LOL.

Nothing is hard for you. 

[littlelamb]

This is a sick thread!!

Littlelamb, your presence here has made me want to take my sheet music more seriously..

I've been looking at the Hanons & thinking...mhhhh..

Horowitz is 1 of a kind!

Yeah M ... Horowitz makes you wanna get back in the shed and go practice.

I would take a difficult section of something that you are learning and make an exercise out of it. They also have a book of exercises by Czerny. It's called the School of Velocity, Opus 299. You can order online. It's more like playing an actual piece than doing Hanon exercises. The thing is most of them are supposed to be played PRESTO.

But you can work up to it. (I can work up to it, I should say). I need to get the book myself. I was using my friend's copy. If I get it I'll scan into a pdf and send to you. 

[LaylaMonroe]

Yeah M ... Horowitz makes you wanna get back in the shed and go practice.

I would take a difficult section of something that you are learning and make an exercise out of it. They also have a book of exercises by Czerny. It's called the School of Velocity, Opus 299. You can order online. It's more like playing an actual piece than doing Hanon exercises. The thing is most of them are supposed to be played PRESTO.

But you can work up to it. (I can work up to it, I should say). I need to get the book myself. I was using my friend's copy. If I get it I'll scan into a pdf and send to you. 

Be sure you have the publisher's or author's permission before doing so. 

There are laws against certain kinds of product reproduction without permission, and we know we're supposed to obey the laws of the land... 

[T-Block]

Nothing is hard for you. 

If only u knew.  I'm still struggling with sight-reading basic stuff, let alone fugues and what not.

[littlelamb]

If only u knew.  I'm still struggling with sight-reading basic stuff, let alone fugues and what not.

That's great, dude! If something is a struggle for you then you have something to work on for the rest of your life and then you'll be really good down the road. If you can even try to play a fugue you're ahead of the average gospel musician.

So, let's make a deal. Playing traditional gospel and learning by ear is a struggle for me although I've come a long way. Give me some of your chops and I'll give you some of mine.

[musallio]

Yeah M ... Horowitz makes you wanna get back in the shed and go practice.

I would take a difficult section of something that you are learning and make an exercise out of it. They also have a book of exercises by Czerny. It's called the School of Velocity, Opus 299. You can order online. It's more like playing an actual piece than doing Hanon exercises. The thing is most of them are supposed to be played PRESTO.

But you can work up to it. (I can work up to it, I should say). I need to get the book myself. I was using my friend's copy. If I get it I'll scan into a pdf and send to you. 

U'r a real cat than if U'r playing Czerny I heard those exercises are not for the faint-hearted

But you can work up to it. (I can work up to it, I should say). I need to get the book myself. I was using my friend's copy. If I get it I'll scan into a pdf and send to you. 

Oh no, hope I'm not inconveniencing U coz as Larue has said, U need to obtain  copyright permission...but w8  a sec Larue, isn't Czerny a work made prior 1936
Doesn't that mean that it is now free public domain (just like the Hanons [ which you can find here BTW):

http://www2.free-scores.com/PUBLIC/IMSLP/Hanpart1.pdf

http://www2.free-scores.com/PUBLIC/IMSLP/Hanpart2.pdf

http://www2.free-scores.com/PUBLIC/IMSLP/Hanpart3.pdf

But I cheat for the 1st part of the Hanons: http://www.pianoclues.com/2008/02/03/hanon-exercises-for-folks-who-dont-read-sheet-music-part-1/   

But I'm up to sheet music now since my sister's taking classics classes again & I just force myself to play it anyway so that should she want us to play sheet together, I'm there.

[musallio]

That's great, dude! If something is a struggle for you then you have something to work on for the rest of your life and then you'll be really good down the road. If you can even try to play a fugue you're ahead of the average gospel musician.

So, let's make a deal. Playing traditional gospel and learning by ear is a struggle for me although I've come a long way. Give me some of your chops and I'll give you some of mine.

Please guys, I hope this materializes..
I'm so fed up with guys around my place..most just don't want to shed (1 or 2 who are willing to shed)..so I really don't want to "annoy" them, so what I do nowadays is shed with buddies in other parts of the world...Thank God for live internet chat I can give my friend in Curiaco some Contemporary gospel chops, & she gives me some classical pops & I move on with my life..

I wish U successful shedding.

[littlelamb]

U'r a real cat than if U'r playing Czerny I heard those exercises are not for the faint-hearted

Oh no, hope I'm not inconveniencing U coz as Larue has said, U need to obtain  copyright permission...but w8  a sec Larue, isn't Czerny a work made prior 1936

Yeah, no one cares about copyright permission for finger exercises. 1) It's for educational use and 2) the people that wrote them have been dead for like 100 years or more. And anyway, you could memorize Hanon exercises after hearing them the first time so it's not really a composed piece of music. It's like sharing chords to songs. No one can come after you for that.
What are you working on these days for church?

[musallio]

Yeah, no one cares about copyright permission for finger exercises. 1) It's for educational use and 2) the people that wrote them have been dead for like 100 years or more. And anyway, you could memorize Hanon exercises after hearing them the first time so it's not really a composed piece of music. It's like sharing chords to songs. No one can come after you for that.

 :DU'r str8 talk sis

What are you working on these days for church?

Music-wise? mhh, I'll start playing the lead next week 4 the 1st time ever (& It's been a while since I've played the synths)..so there's nothing I've been working on per se.

What I have been doing is :
1) playing a selection of songs a number of songs in all the keys.
2) Practicing my talk music.
3) Learning some songs from nice albums that I think the choir could sing...but I'm not in charge of that, so I'm just taking chances, but anyway, i learn the songs for my personal fulfilment..

But I might not be on the lead if things work out...I imagine there'll be 1 person on the piano, another on the organ & then I can take on the synths..

So I've been working alot with instrumentals & other jazz stuff.

[musallio]

The Missouri Southern  Internation Piano Competition.

It takes place next month.

Here is a website that talks about it:
    http://www.mssu.edu/msipc

Do you enter competitions like this 1 littlelamb or have you been promoted to judge
 

[SoundofJoy]

Unlike many of you I had no formal piano training. My father was church musician but he had his own style and was too busy running his business and playing for churches to show me anything. I learned by watching my music teacher (high school band) show me the C major scale and two chord prgressions. He told me I'm there to play french horn not piano. My love for music compelled me to "find" the notes of the music I had "memorized" and using bad fingering technique I would find what I could remember. For years I would play whatever I could hear and yes struggled when I didn't know the correct chord. It wasn't unitl many years past I started buying the scale books for beginners that I saw how far off I was. Now, I rely on those books to correct my interpretation of chords and scales as I'm instructing in my online course. I could play whatever I heard couldn't tell you what I was playing. I enjoy watching classical piansts play and I still marvel at the speed technique they use playing those pieces. I'll never play Carnigie Hall in NYC but I have a great audience on LGM and YouTube

You may have seen my piano warmup routine on youtube, yes my fingers are that fast and accurate after I've warmed-up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0SZ7KFT8Sg

[musallio]

After reading Dr. Tolbert's post, I find myself guilty of not practicing my scales

If that's what I'm expected to get up to 1 day, then I better play your vid each time before I practice..

I drew alot of inspiration from your message Soundofjoy.

But I'm not convinced that you could never play Carnegie

[littlelamb]

The Missouri Southern  Internation Piano Competition.

It takes place next month.

Here is a website that talks about it:
    http://www.mssu.edu/msipc

Do you enter competitions like this 1 littlelamb or have you been promoted to judge
 

HA!!! I've got skillz but not that much. For one, memorizing that much music is an arduous task. I had to do it in college. It is painstaking and very, very, time consuming and then you might forget. My technique is pretty good but not that good. I taught myself to play and I came late in the game in terms of classical musicians. I really didn't get going until I was 11. So, some of my technique is faulty.
Who says you couldn't play Carnegie?

[musallio]

HA!!! I've got skillz but not that much. For one, memorizing that much music is an arduous task. I had to do it in college. It is painstaking and very, very, time consuming and then you might forget. My technique is pretty good but not that good. I taught myself to play and I came late in the game in terms of classical musicians. I really didn't get going until I was 11. So, some of my technique is faulty.Who says you couldn't play Carnegie?

What So you reckon 11 is too late already , then that means there'd never be hope for us who started at 21.
I have faith in your abilities sis.

Who says you couldn't play Carnegie?

Is this addressed to me?
I was referring to Soundofjoy's statement..

check how he runs those scales for warm ups..i repent of not doing my warm ups as I ought to...

[T-Block]

So, let's make a deal. Playing traditional gospel and learning by ear is a struggle for me although I've come a long way. Give me some of your chops and I'll give you some of mine.

That's a sweet deal, you're on.  It would probably even better if we was helping each other in person, but LGM wil do, LOL.

For one, memorizing that much music is an arduous task. I had to do it in college. It is painstaking and very, very, time consuming and then you might forget.

You tell em, I'm in that situation right now.  The only way we can perform is from memory.  Tell em about the recitals, we gotta memorize 30-45 minutes of memorized classical music.  Some of them jaunts can be 20+ pages long.

[under13]

That's a sweet deal, you're on.  It would probably even better if we was helping each other in person, but LGM wil do, LOL.

You tell em, I'm in that situation right now.  The only way we can perform is from memory.  Tell em about the recitals, we gotta memorize 30-45 minutes of memorized classical music.  Some of them jaunts can be 20+ pages long.

Why do you have to memorize? I'm sure it will pay off, but I know alot of classical musicians with degrees, who still swear by their music.

I would have to memorize it, Cuz I cant stay focused enough when reading semi complicaed stuff. My teacher used to hate when I played from memory

[littlelamb]

Why do you have to memorize? I'm sure it will pay off, but I know alot of classical musicians with degrees, who still swear by their music.

I would have to memorize it, Cuz I cant stay focused enough when reading semi complicaed stuff. My teacher used to hate when I played from memory

That's the way it's done. I'm one of those who swears by the music. Honestly, they're right. You can't execute difficult music well unless you're able to look at your hands and at the keys. Then if you do you'll lose your place in the music. The other thing is playing solo piano music for a concert is easier without having to get someone to turn pages for you.

And as T-Bone says, you can't just memorize a piece of music that's 20+ pages with ease. You're supposed to be playing what the composer wrote and interpreting it in your own way but still playing the right notes. If you improvise on the notes then that means you're playing it WRONG.

You tell em, I'm in that situation right now.  The only way we can perform is from memory.  Tell em about the recitals, we gotta memorize 30-45 minutes of memorized classical music.  Some of them jaunts can be 20+ pages long.

I am sooooooooo glad I'm not in school anymore. People don't recognize how difficult it is to major in music in college. Every semester you have to have juries and play what you've been learning in front of the teachers of your instrument. Talk about HIGH Anxiety, like the kind where you're about throw up.

I can say that God kept me when I was in school. It took some serious prayer. If you forget your music you may not be able to remember and get back on. My friend from college was really good. He had much better technique than me and he could really play but he always forgot his music. He was really proud and haughty and yet he still couldn't get through one piece of music without forgetting it. One thing I can say is God helped me make it through 8 semesters of piano juries. PRAISE HIM!!!

[musallio]

I can say that God kept me when I was in school. It took some serious prayer. If you forget your music you may not be able to remember and get back on. My friend from college was really good. He had much better technique than me and he could really play but he always forgot his music. He was really proud and haughty and yet he still couldn't get through one piece of music without forgetting it. One thing I can say is God helped me make it through 8 semesters of piano juries. PRAISE HIM!!!

Wow!!

Praise be to Him indeed..
I don't think I'll ever want to major in music

It would take away all the pleasure content in it for me..

I just enjoy learning some things in an informal environment..

[T-Block]

Why do you have to memorize? I'm sure it will pay off, but I know alot of classical musicians with degrees, who still swear by their music.

Cuz they said so, LOL.  Perfoming in school is different from performing in real life.  Sight-reading is the easier part, the hard part is interpretation (feel for u gospel people).  U can't sight-read that no matter what u do.  That only comes from practice, studying the music itself, and studying the composer (if necessary).  Even the professionals practice their music before hand, they just have the music their just in case they forget some notes.

People don't recognize how difficult it is to major in music in college. Every semester you have to have juries and play what you've been learning in front of the teachers of your instrument. Talk about HIGH Anxiety, like the kind where you're about throw up.

Dat's the sho' nuff troof right there.  Them juries ain't no joke.  You have to keep showing improvement in your skills as well as your musical choices.  They all lead to that big "Senior Recital" where u get to show everybody what u can really do.  With the Lord's help, I'm gonna learn this stuff so that I can be a better musician for His glory and for my music career.

[musallio]

Cuz they said so, LOL.  Perfoming in school is different from performing in real life.  Sight-reading is the easier part, the hard part is interpretation (feel for u gospel people).  U can't sight-read that no matter what u do.  That only comes from practice, studying the music itself, and studying the composer (if necessary).  Even the professionals practice their music before hand, they just have the music their just in case they forget some notes.

Doesn't sound very fun to me

Dat's the sho' nuff troof right there.  Them juries ain't no joke.  You have to keep showing improvement in your skills as well as your musical choices.  They all lead to that big "Senior Recital" where u get to show everybody what u can really do.  With the Lord's help, I'm gonna learn this stuff so that I can be a better musician for His glory and for my music career.

All the best man..
I know U'll do it.