Women Preachers

[B3Wannabe]

I don't know if I believe in women being Pastors.......but I don't quite know if they shouldn't be pastors either. I'm engaged to a female preacher she and I agree that there's nothing wrong with that.

A LITTLE BIT TO THE LEFT!

She and I also agree that a man who follows a woman looks utterly pitiful.

 I'm reminded of the few times I went to my aintees (int.) church back in my hometown. At this church indeed the pastor was a woman. And her husband was the master of announcements.......................... ......................................





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 Anyway I remember looking at this dude and sayin' to myself........"well there's nuthin' wrong wit' a female pastor buuuuuuut.............hmm........" It made me think "who's runnin' thangs at home?" 'cause the dude jes' came off like a weakling.

Not to say that there's something right or wrong with this........'cause I don't know! (I'm neutral) but that guy sticks in my mind as a picture of pity.

If it's not like I think..........whereas a woman should not be pastoring...........then I'll find out.

Exactly!

Every dude I know that is in this situation seems really humble. Not that being humble is bad, but they just look small when they're next to their wives. But, like you said, it could just be my perspective. It doesn't make it true.


However, I know personally, that I don't believe in female pastors. I know a couple that are apostles! But then again, the bible doesn't say they can't be "apostles". It only makes distinctions for Deacons, Bishops, and Pastors. It just doesn't look right to me! A few of the ones I've met also make it a point to tell people "I'm a Bishop" or "I'm and Elder". In my mind I be thinking "well alrighty then!"

[SisterT]

A few of the ones I've met also make it a point to tell people "I'm a Bishop" or "I'm and Elder". In my mind I be thinking "well alrighty then!"

Funny you should say that. I was conducting a meeting for a group at my church. I am a minister, but when I introduced myself, I merely stated my name without the title. When I had the people introduce themselves, the men in the group who were ministers followed my lead and introduced themselves without the title. ONLY THE WOMEN preachers introduced themselves as Minister So-and-so. I was thinking in my mind "alrighty then." LOL!  I think a lot of women like to be called by their titles and/or acknowledged as a minister.

[B3Wannabe]

Funny you should say that. I was conducting a meeting for a group at my church. I am a minister, but when I introduced myself, I merely stated my name without the title. When I had the people introduce themselves, the men in the group who were ministers followed my lead and introduced themselves without the title. ONLY THE WOMEN preachers introduced themselves as Minister So-and-so. I was thinking in my mind "alrighty then." LOL!  I think a lot of women like to be called by their titles and/or acknowledged as a minister.

LOL

And there you have it!

[Furious Styles]

I think it is pretty chavenistic to say that a man looks weak when he submits to the authority of a woman. If Hillary wins the election is Bill less than a man? The problem is as I stated earlier is tradition. Someone else mentioned this as well. Jesus died to destroy the traditions of men. WE can't say we have limits on liberty. It is the equivalent of saying black folks should be free and not having voting rights... We all know how that turned out. Selective freedom didn't cut it then and it doesn't cut it now. WOMEN are qualified for the job of leadership if they desire it..... Husband of one wife can also be looked upon as wife of one husband... The theology of Adam was made first doesn't hold up. Esau was born first but Jacob tricked his way to the birthright!!!.

Does that mean that it is right to trick your way into position to find favor with God? Does that mean being born first automatically qualify us for special privileges in life. In the culture of the Jews at that times maybe but doesn't that theology contradict the new covenant? Salvation justified by faith is the only requisite in the kingdom of GOD.... Now the kingdom of man's theology is another subject....

[B3Wannabe]

I think it is pretty chavenistic to say that a man looks weak when he submits to the authority of a woman. If Hillary wins the election is Bill less than a man? The problem is as I stated earlier is tradition. Someone else mentioned this as well. Jesus died to destroy the traditions of men. WE can't say we have limits on liberty. It is the equivalent of saying black folks should be free and not having voting rights... We all know how that turned out. Selective freedom didn't cut it then and it doesn't cut it now. WOMEN are qualified for the job of leadership if they desire it..... Husband of one wife can also be looked upon as wife of one husband... The theology of Adam was made first doesn't hold up. Esau was born first but Jacob tricked his way to the birthright!!!.

Does that mean that it is right to trick your way into position to find favor with God? Does that mean being born first automatically qualify us for special privileges in life. In the culture of the Jews at that times maybe but doesn't that theology contradict the new covenant? Salvation justified by faith is the only requisite in the kingdom of GOD.... Now the kingdom of man's theology is another subject....

Correction: I didn't say "a man looks weak when he submits to the authority of a woman", I said, "they just look small when they're next to their wives." Also, I stated that my perspective doesn't make it true. If I happened to be lead to a church under a female pastor, I'd submit, which is what I'm supposed to do.

I'm definitely not chauvinistic.

[Furious Styles]

Saying that they look smal next to a woman implies still that it is something weak about the man. You said they look "small". That's almost trying to have it both ways without "disrespecting" authority. It basically implies he still less of a man.. That's still very chavenistic my friend...

[B3Wannabe]

Saying that they look smal next to a woman implies still that it is something weak about the man. You said they look "small". That's almost trying to have it both ways without "disrespecting" authority. It basically implies he still less of a man.. That's still very chavenistic my friend...

Oh well....Since I can't win....

[LaylaMonroe]

I hate to be labeled a chauvenist, but I have to admit that I've often thought the same about pastor's husbands.  They do tend to look quiet, maybe shy, maybe out of place or unsure, they don't seem to have a lot of confidence, or leadership or authority.  The bottom line is that they do come across as weak.  And it DOES make one wonder what goes on at home. 

I realize that MAY sound stereotypical, but I'm not generalizing all of them, I'm only referring to the ones I've met or witnessed in action.

I have a very, VERY strong personality.  I'm a leader in every way, very assertive, very aggressive, and very confident in my leadership abilities.  If I were to hook up with a man who didn't know his place and his role, I could be the "pastor" of my home easily, and watch him turn into that man that I see other female pastors with.  But, that ain't cool.  Even strong women need to have strongER men who will take authority of their homes and assume the position God designed for them.  I don't care how loud I talk, at the end of the day, I need to be the wife and the husband needs to be the husband.  I think that women pastors should have husbands who... well nevermind, I just don't think women should pastor.  Period.

[GodChosinOne]

I understand that there are alot of women who are ministers, prophetess, evangilists etc. But I noticed that alot of churches don't allow or don't believe that women should pastor a church, while other churches (or different denominations) do feel or believe that it is indeed okay for women to pastor a church.

 You are right about that.. there are some churches that believe that women cant be preacher, and there are some who do believe it...
 Me personally i believe women can be preachers, my mother is the preacher of my church...

[jdholliday]

I hate to be labeled a chauvenist, but I have to admit that I've often thought the same about pastor's husbands.  They do tend to look quiet, maybe shy, maybe out of place or unsure, they don't seem to have a lot of confidence, or leadership or authority.  The bottom line is that they do come across as weak.  And it DOES make one wonder what goes on at home. 

I realize that MAY sound stereotypical, but I'm not generalizing all of them, I'm only referring to the ones I've met or witnessed in action.

I have a very, VERY strong personality.  I'm a leader in every way, very assertive, very aggressive, and very confident in my leadership abilities.  If I were to hook up with a man who didn't know his place and his role, I could be the "pastor" of my home easily, and watch him turn into that man that I see other female pastors with.  But, that ain't cool.  Even strong women need to have strongER men who will take authority of their homes and assume the position God designed for them.  I don't care how loud I talk, at the end of the day, I need to be the wife and the husband needs to be the husband.  I think that women pastors should have husbands who... well nevermind, I just don't think women should pastor.  Period.

There is nothing wrong with the attributes you named about yourself & other leaders in your gender, but the difference should be that you would have respect for your husband not to degrade him or anyone else. Being passive doesn't mean not being assertive. A great example imo is the work that Dave Meyer does in his wifes ministry, he flourishes in his area of gifting being totally content with the behind the scenes.

[LaylaMonroe]

There is nothing wrong with the attributes you named about yourself & other leaders in your gender, but the difference should be that you would have respect for your husband not to degrade him or anyone else. Being passive doesn't mean not being assertive. A great example imo is the work that Dave Meyer does in his wifes ministry, he flourishes in his area of gifting being totally content with the behind the scenes.

But Pastor Jeff, let's say I'm the pastor of my church... even if I respect my husband by not degrading him, I'm still exercising authority over him... I could put the church on a fast or something, and my husband might feel God isn't calling his family to fast, and as the spiritual leader, I say God is... who has the authority?  I mean, that's just a silly example, but I'm just saying...

Your mention of Dave Meyer made me remember Randy White, who is also a strong leader... but, I think he's a co-pastor so that might be different.  I can't remember...

But see, I do think there's a diff between a woman being CO-pastor and a woman being THE pastor.... A female co-pastor will still submit to her husband.  A female pastor IS the husband... which is just weird and wrong, IMO.

[Brittsings87]

 My G-ma is a Pastor and what not, and she understands and knows who is the head of her household, she doesn't try to over-throw him, or take over his role/duties as the head, she believes in Submitting to her husband. However, she is too a leader in every way, very assertive, very aggressive, and very confident in her leadership abilities.


Anywho, I can't read anymore of this thread I get confused even the morer(int) 

[sjonathan02]

I think..... 

EVERYONE is entitled to their opinion. 

[Doubles22]

Well, it's spring time.  So you know folks are going to start eating outside.

*gives sjon that "you know what time it is" look*

[Redy2bUsed]

*Walks into room*
*Looks around*


Naw....ya'll ain't gettin me.
*walks out*

[Mysteryman]

I think this is why alot of that co-pastor stuff started. The wife says she was called to pastor. Some of their husbands either were called or weren't. 

[sjonathan02]

Well, it's spring time.  So you know folks are going to start eating outside.

*gives sjon that "you know what time it is" look*

You know what, you just might be RIGHT!!  I'll be right back.......

[Salvador]

A female pastor IS the husband... which is just weird and wrong, IMO.

Would you have a problem with a single (unmarried) female pastor?

[jdholliday]

But Pastor Jeff, let's say I'm the pastor of my church... even if I respect my husband by not degrading him, I'm still exercising authority over him... I could put the church on a fast or something, and my husband might feel God isn't calling his family to fast, and as the spiritual leader, I say God is... who has the authority?  I mean, that's just a silly example, but I'm just saying...

Your mention of Dave Meyer made me remember Randy White, who is also a strong leader... but, I think he's a co-pastor so that might be different.  I can't remember...

But see, I do think there's a diff between a woman being CO-pastor and a woman being THE pastor.... A female co-pastor will still submit to her husband.  A female pastor IS the husband... which is just weird and wrong, IMO.

If you both love God enough you will understand that you are not so much submitting to the person, but submitting to him. Sjon, Doubles wait for me

[apostolic holiness gurl]

I believe that women can preach, as long as they have a man over them....at my church, we have 2 women co-pastors, they way i c it is God can use anybody!

My pastor told us that women can't b bishops, prophets, or apostles...but as far as pastoring, teaching, being an evangelist or prophetess; they can do that!