Just trying to get some more opinions...

[SabianKnight]

I hear what you're saying about the oaks. The ones I've tried I liked even with the stock heads on them. Last I checked, Dave Weckl is recording with his oaks now.

My cymbals of choice are all Meinl Byzance:

1. 13" Dark Hi Hats
2. 16" Medium Thin Crash
3. 18" Jazz Thin Crash
4. 10" Splash
5. 21" Dark Ride
6. 20" Jazz Club Ride
7. 18" Medium Thin Crash
8. Sabian 18" or 20" Ozone (stepchild)

I wouldn't mix the Sabian in give Meinl it's just due respect (or any cymbal line IMO). For effects cymbals Meinl has the 22" China with rivets that is like a HHX china (warm and lush) with Swish Knocker sizzle (only sexier because their are only 8 rivets). As well you have the generation X Filter Chinas and this new puppy that is a back breaker  The Generation X China Crash!!!!

[sugabear]

I wouldn't mix the Sabian in give Meinl it's just due respect (or any cymbal line IMO). For effects cymbals Meinl has the 22" China with rivets that is like a HHX china (warm and lush) with Swish Knocker sizzle (only sexier because their are only 8 rivets). As well you have the generation X Filter Chinas and this new puppy that is a back breaker  The Generation X China Crash!!!!

You're on it uncle. I didn't even know that they had a cymbal like this. I have to go to their site and hear how it sounds. You really got me thinking about the oaks again man. You are really into messing up plans aren't you?

[min_amw]

I wouldn't mix the Sabian in give Meinl it's just due respect (or any cymbal line IMO). For effects cymbals Meinl has the 22" China with rivets that is like a HHX china (warm and lush) with Swish Knocker sizzle (only sexier because their are only 8 rivets). As well you have the generation X Filter Chinas and this new puppy that is a back breaker  The Generation X China Crash!!!!

Very Interesting. Most of the Gen-X stuff is pretty innovative. I gotta hear this one.

[SabianKnight]

You're on it uncle. I didn't even know that they had a cymbal like this. I have to go to their site and hear how it sounds. You really got me thinking about the oaks again man. You are really into messing up plans aren't you?

months before I left Orlando... the Winter Park guitar Center had a blue sparkle Oak Custom 6-piece kit with 24" virgin kick! now i am making it hard for you. Do you research, LOL, 

[E.R.]

I wouldn't mix the Sabian in give Meinl it's just due respect (or any cymbal line IMO). For effects cymbals Meinl has the 22" China with rivets that is like a HHX china (warm and lush) with Swish Knocker sizzle (only sexier because their are only 8 rivets). As well you have the generation X Filter Chinas and this new puppy that is a back breaker  The Generation X China Crash!!!!

Coming soon to my palette! 

[j_kay]

Ay, the local shop has it, and I wasn't really impressed.  It sounded too stiff to me.

[E.R.]

Ay, the local shop has it, and I wasn't really impressed.  It sounded too stiff to me.

Really? What size was it?

[j_kay]

Ay, it was a 17 (I think)".  Whatever the size was, didn't sound good.

[JFunky]

Ay, it was a 17 (I think)".  Whatever the size was, didn't sound good.

...the O-Zone is still the Undisputed Champ.

[sugabear]

I'm also loving that Meinl Byzance Jazz China Ride.

[SabianKnight]

I'm also loving that Meinl Byzance Jazz China Ride.

The Byzance China Ride sounds like money in the bank. Crisp bills rustling in the wind, LOL.