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Effects Pedal
« on: May 09, 2008, 09:23:17 AM »
What's going on Fellas? I have a question, I've been playing for a about two years and I've been playing at the Chapel here on Base for about 6 months. I have Fender Frontman 25 Watt amp. It has reverb on it. It sounds pretty good on the clean and I've used it a church a few times, sometimes I go through the house. The question I have is what kind of effects pedal should I start out with. I want to just try something new and play around. I know there are a ton out so I just need some ideas before I buy anything. Thanks

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Re: Effects Pedal
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2008, 09:25:25 AM »
What's going on Fellas? I have a question, I've been playing for a about two years and I've been playing at the Chapel here on Base for about 6 months. I have Fender Frontman 25 Watt amp. It has reverb on it. It sounds pretty good on the clean and I've used it a church a few times, sometimes I go through the house. The question I have is what kind of effects pedal should I start out with. I want to just try something new and play around. I know there are a ton out so I just need some ideas before I buy anything. Thanks

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Re: Effects Pedal
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2008, 10:53:40 AM »
What's your budget?
Are you looking for some distortion or maybe some time-based effects (delay, chorus, flange) or maybe you're looking for a wah?
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Re: Effects Pedal
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2008, 01:49:00 PM »
The Chapel is here on Scott Air Force Base, Illinois. My budget is about $70-$80. Definetely some time based effects. What does 'flange' and the 'digital delay' do? I know what the chorus does and wah. The other two I'm not sure. I may end up with all of them later. I'm just what's a good starting pedal. I'm open and just learning guitar. Thanks

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Re: Effects Pedal
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2008, 02:18:29 PM »
If you want something that will give you a bit of evrything, try the Digitech line of pedals. They're not the best, but they'll give you an idea of what each effect does for your sound. It's probably the cheapest route to go also... :-\
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Re: Effects Pedal
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2008, 02:47:39 PM »
The Chapel is here on Scott Air Force Base, Illinois. My budget is about $70-$80. Definetely some time based effects. What does 'flange' and the 'digital delay' do? I know what the chorus does and wah. The other two I'm not sure. I may end up with all of them later. I'm just what's a good starting pedal. I'm open and just learning guitar. Thanks


Flange is similar to a chorus effect but the effect rate is normally much slower and the effect depth is much wider.
Digital delay is delay or echo done via DSP rather than analog electronics. The difference is very accurate timing and a very clean effect...and for some (like me most of the time) it's too accurate and too clean so they prefer analog as it can sound a little more 'natural' but digital has it's place, especially when you're needing solid timing while playing a repetitive riff (a la the band U2).

If you're considering a chorus pedal, check out this page:
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/navigation/guitars?N=100001%2b304262%2b7&Ns=P_Price%7c0&Ntk=All&Ntt=chorus&Nty=1&page=1
They're all within your price range.
I use my chorus quite often, especially for cleaner rhythms to add a little thickness to the sound.
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Re: Effects Pedal
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2008, 01:19:44 PM »
I had been playing for close to 10 years with no effects.  When I finally got one, it was a Boss Chorus.  I loved it.  Shortly thereafter, I got a distortion pedal, which gave me a lot of options for "coloring" my sound.  Since then, I've owned a Digitech RP-300, an inexpensive multi-effects unit (uner $200) which allowed me to experiment with all of the typical effects in factory & customizable presets. This really helped me learn what works best for my preferences.  My current pedal board, the Line 6 PodXT Live, has a USB computer interface which lets me modify presets visually, turning effects on & off, making adjustments, etc. really helpful. Now, some of the smaller amps with built-in effects have a nice "logic" to their setup which goes from chorus to phaser to flange and still blend combinations of reverb to delay. This is another approach before ultimately deciding on your ideal effect set up.
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Re: Effects Pedal
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2008, 02:50:56 PM »
I had been playing for close to 10 years with no effects.  When I finally got one, it was a Boss Chorus.  I loved it.  Shortly thereafter, I got a distortion pedal, which gave me a lot of options for "coloring" my sound.  Since then, I've owned a Digitech RP-300, an inexpensive multi-effects unit (uner $200) which allowed me to experiment with all of the typical effects in factory & customizable presets. This really helped me learn what works best for my preferences.  My current pedal board, the Line 6 PodXT Live, has a USB computer interface which lets me modify presets visually, turning effects on & off, making adjustments, etc. really helpful. Now, some of the smaller amps with built-in effects have a nice "logic" to their setup which goes from chorus to phaser to flange and still blend combinations of reverb to delay. This is another approach before ultimately deciding on your ideal effect set up.

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Re: Effects Pedal
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2008, 01:38:20 AM »
What's going on Fellas? I have a question, I've been playing for a about two years and I've been playing at the Chapel here on Base for about 6 months. I have Fender Frontman 25 Watt amp. It has reverb on it. It sounds pretty good on the clean and I've used it a church a few times, sometimes I go through the house. The question I have is what kind of effects pedal should I start out with. I want to just try something new and play around. I know there are a ton out so I just need some ideas before I buy anything. Thanks

             HI I'd go on ebay, and you might get an RP-300 Digitech effects peddal around 75.00..........they originally sold for 300.00,  now a newer RP-350 is being sold by Digitech. I have seen a few on ebay. So shop around.
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Re: Effects Pedal
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2008, 08:46:00 PM »
I'm on my second generation of gear right now, but my rig started on ebay! In fact, the GNX-3 that I use right now is from ebay. I traded two Wah-Wah (Crybaby and a Jimi Hendrix(, and a RP-something plus $50 for it. What a blessing it was! Now I really want my Jimi back...  :'(
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Re: Effects Pedal
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2008, 09:51:19 PM »
I'm on my second generation of gear right now, but my rig started on ebay! In fact, the GNX-3 that I use right now is from ebay. I traded two Wah-Wah (Crybaby and a Jimi Hendrix(, and a RP-something plus $50 for it. What a blessing it was! Now I really want my Jimi back...  :'(

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Re: Effects Pedal
« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2008, 10:53:39 AM »
A wise bass player told me to never sell your gear.

It had a short on the input and at the time I didn't want to deal with it. Looking back, I should have fixed it myself! I love my GNX-3 though...

I'm still going to get a couple of stompboxes in the future
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Re: Effects Pedal
« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2008, 06:57:46 AM »
A wise bass player told me to never sell your gear.

In the past 15 years, I've sold one guitar...

I even hold on to my beaters, and effects that no longer work properly--I'll eventually fix them, but they sit in the closet for now.

Trackman, your best bet--instead of paying the extra money for a Jimi wah--is to buy a a standard Crybaby and mod it to your liking. You'll end up with a wah you like BETTER than that Jimi--I promise. And, you'll save about $60.

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Re: Effects Pedal
« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2008, 02:24:47 PM »
In the past 15 years, I've sold one guitar...

I even hold on to my beaters, and effects that no longer work properly--I'll eventually fix them, but they sit in the closet for now.

Trackman, your best bet--instead of paying the extra money for a Jimi wah--is to buy a a standard Crybaby and mod it to your liking. You'll end up with a wah you like BETTER than that Jimi--I promise. And, you'll save about $60.

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Re: Effects Pedal
« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2008, 03:44:02 PM »
In the past 15 years, I've sold one guitar...

I even hold on to my beaters, and effects that no longer work properly--I'll eventually fix them, but they sit in the closet for now.

Trackman, your best bet--instead of paying the extra money for a Jimi wah--is to buy a a standard Crybaby and mod it to your liking. You'll end up with a wah you like BETTER than that Jimi--I promise. And, you'll save about $60.

I'll get with you later about that. First let me run to Guitar Center. I'll be right back...
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Re: Effects Pedal
« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2008, 05:44:23 PM »
Have you checked out the new $500 Boss GT-10 Multi-Effects Pedal?
Much improved, a better looking dispaly and fewer knobs than my old antique Boss GT-6.
Here's a link:
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Boss-GT10-MultiEffects-Pedal?sku=151133

I currently us the Boss ME-50 in church. It has just what I need, a nice footprint, easy to carry around and setup.

Try to make your first choice your best choice.

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Re: Effects Pedal
« Reply #16 on: May 15, 2008, 05:51:57 PM »
Thanks, Gibb...

Track, if I can find it, I'll post clips of the mod I did for my nephew-in-law on his Vox.

Not sure that i still have them... I'll look when i get home tonight.

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Re: Effects Pedal
« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2008, 06:36:25 AM »
OK, I found it... and the playing is REALLY bad. It was just a quickie to send to him to approve the tone.

He wanted a fatter wah (like Slash), but this gives you and idea of what can be done with a stock wah--for a couple bucks.

This was a Vox V847 that was true-bypassed, and I changed the sweep resistor to make it more vocal, and the Q capacitor to fatten it up. I think I changed the volume a bit to compensate for the true bypass, as well (that way there's no volume drop when you turn it on).

http://www.freewebs.com/jayp5150/Vox%20Wah.mp3

For some reason, every time I post a link, it will work for a day, then it just takes us back to this page... so, cut and paste if you have to.

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Re: Effects Pedal
« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2008, 09:45:53 PM »
Have you checked out the new $500 Boss GT-10 Multi-Effects Pedal?
Much improved, a better looking dispaly and fewer knobs than my old antique Boss GT-6.
Here's a link:
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Boss-GT10-MultiEffects-Pedal?sku=151133

I currently us the Boss ME-50 in church. It has just what I need, a nice footprint, easy to carry around and setup.

Try to make your first choice your best choice.

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boss has good effects and flexibility....but i just can't stand the cosm amp modelling or the pain in the rear UI. also doesn't ahve near the output capabilities.

I admit that I am a Line 6 fan...but I promise you the X3 is a much better choice....especially if you record, since it has vocal, bass and acoustic guitar effects/preamp/cab models.

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Re: Effects Pedal
« Reply #19 on: May 17, 2008, 09:03:52 AM »
You could save about $250 and get a Vox Tonelab SE used. They don't make the SE models anymore, and most of the guys that want to sell it just flat out don't know how to use it. I have seen them used for as low as $200. Don't get an effects board that can(paint the house), that stuff is alot of times is only good to wow the kids. This pedal board has all of the effects that the others do. Remember! When you are playing with other musicians, the best effect you can have is a good sound.
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