Cb?

[spoon_21]

where is this chord on the guitar? I don't have this chord in my book, and I did not see it on the site I went to.

[lilBB]

there is no Cb.... it's just B, not called Cb.

[spoon_21]

OK, I just canceled my Guitar classes, He gave me one last song (GAINTS) and he played it and gave me the chords. Normally when he put down chords I do not know I just look them up. But he gave me a Cb chord, I'll try B tonight. That one chord is holding me up

[gtrdave]

there is no Cb.... it's just B, not called Cb.

Not so fast there, mister.  There actually is Cb (just like there's E#) and while it is the same/similar to B, there are cases where you would refer to Cb as Cb and not as B and typically would do so where you'd have a song in a particular key and not want what could be a confusing redundancy in the notes and chords of said song.
To properly remain in-key you would use Cb or Fb or B# or E#.

[spoon_21]

so, Cb is the same as B?

[trackman]

so, Cb is the same as B?

Yes. When a note is taken flat or sharp, it moved one-half step down or up (consecutively) from the root note. Since the transition from B to C is only a half step,  a C-flat is actually B and a B-sharp is actually C.

[spoon_21]

Thanks

[SanctifiedGuitar]

I'm glad he didn't ask you to play a song in the key of Cb 

[lilBB]

Not so fast there, mister.  There actually is Cb (just like there's E#) and while it is the same/similar to B, there are cases where you would refer to Cb as Cb and not as B and typically would do so where you'd have a song in a particular key and not want what could be a confusing redundancy in the notes and chords of said song.
To properly remain in-key you would use Cb or Fb or B# or E#.

  true that. the theory police have rounded up another offender  . should have worded it differently.

[gtrdave]

so, Cb is the same as B?

From a practical just-play-the-guitar position, yes.
From a by-the-book theory position, no.

[spoon_21]

true that. the theory police have rounded up another offender  . should have worded it differently.

 

ok, thanks Dave

[funkStrat_97]

Cb is of the Devil and shoud NEVER be used at church.  Sanctified musicians don't even entertain the though of using this sinister and diabolical key weather in church or not!

[Gibby]

Cb is of the Devil and shoud NEVER be used at church.  Sanctified musicians don't even entertain the though of using this sinister and diabolical key weather in church or not!

can't be no worse than playing in the key of Asus! 

[Abe]

It's called Enharmonic notes: Notes that sound the same but are spelled differently. (Example: C#=Db, F#=Gb, G#=Ab, B#=C, E#=F)

When is Cb(flat)? In the keys of (Gb,Cb).

When is C#(sharp)? In the keys of D,A,E,B,F#,C#.

Gtrdave and big "U", would you agree?

Later,

[gtrdave]

You are correct, sir. 

[MrEdabass]

Cb is of the Devil and shoud NEVER be used at church.  Sanctified musicians don't even entertain the though of using this sinister and diabolical key weather in church or not!

Amen

[JayP5150]

Not so fast there, mister.  There actually is Cb (just like there's E#) and while it is the same/similar to B, there are cases where you would refer to Cb as Cb and not as B and typically would do so where you'd have a song in a particular key and not want what could be a confusing redundancy in the notes and chords of said song.
To properly remain in-key you would use Cb or Fb or B# or E#.

Man, that ruins me and my buddies old running gag about answering "what key you in?" with "E SHARP!" lol

[uriahsmusic]

It's called Enharmonic notes: Notes that sound the same but are spelled differently. (Example: C#=Db, F#=Gb, G#=Ab, B#=C, E#=F)

When is Cb(flat)? In the keys of (Gb,Cb).

When is C#(sharp)? In the keys of D,A,E,B,F#,C#.

Gtrdave and big "U", would you agree?

Later,

.....I don't have an issue with it....it comes up in orchestration....but Cb is still a B!
I would imaging the big brains did it that way to include each letter in each scale.....Like if you called the Cb a B then what would you do with the Bb that is sitting next to it in need of a line of it's own on a staff?...what ever....
Don't fire your teacher for that.....Fire him for wasting your time!

[jlynnb1]

.....I don't have an issue with it....it comes up in orchestration....but Cb is still a B!
I would imaging the big brains did it that way to include each letter in each scale.....Like if you called the Cb a B then what would you do with the Bb that is sitting next to it in need of a line of it's own on a staff?...what ever....
Don't fire your teacher for that.....Fire him for wasting your time!

he wasn't wasting his time...he was trying to teach him a song properly. if it's a key that has a Cb on the staff, it's a Cb, even though it's the same note as B. i know it seems stupid...but at least now the next time he sees a Cb it won't trip him up....so he's the better for it.

[seemunny]

Not so fast there, mister.  There actually is Cb (just like there's E#)

Ok mister freewheelin fancy dancin on the edge! I guess now you're gonna tell me, there's an "Hb" too, huh?....Come on! It's the same as G#.