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Musicians Bridging the Gap
« on: May 25, 2008, 05:27:06 PM »
What collaborations would you like to see between CCM and Gospel artists?  And on a related note; do you think that racism has played a major role in the Chrisitian music industry?
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Re: Musicians Bridging the Gap
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2008, 05:43:30 PM »
Quote from: funkStrat_97 on May 25, 2008, 05:27:06 PM
What collaborations would you like to see between CCM and Gospel artists?  And on a related note; do you think that racism has played a major role in the Chrisitian music industry?

I like you new axe man. (OK i know that is the right spelling of "axe" but LGM is telling me its the wrong spelling  :-\)

Anyways...

I think it would not be easy at all;l for CCM music and gospel to be mixed together. The styles are so different. CCM uses very simple harmonies and progressions, gospel likes it "phat" so to speak. The one collaboration i heard was on Kirk Franklin's 'Fight Of My Life" with Toby Mac. The song is called "I Am God" but it is definitely not a gospel song at all, it is so rock.

On a side note though, Israel & NB do a pretty good job of having both elements in their music. Maybe that's why somepeople don't really like him. They are not too sure what to make of the sound.

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Re: Musicians Bridging the Gap
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2008, 05:48:18 PM »
Quote from: funkStrat_97 on May 25, 2008, 05:27:06 PM
What collaborations would you like to see between CCM and Gospel artists?  And on a related note; do you think that racism has played a major role in the Chrisitian music industry?

Racism? No. A preference based on culture? Yes. Two completely different things, IMHO. There are Gospel artists who have redone many CCM artists' music (Donnie McClurkin and Jonathan Nelson come immediately to mind); so, I wouldn't mind seeing Chris Tomlin and Jonathan doing a collabo (you could throw Jason Nelson in there, as well).


Then, you have guys like Alvin Slaughter and Ron Kenoly who are more CCM than Gospel, to start; at least, IMO.


Interesting question. I feel like because of the definite differences in the two styles a collabo would be interesting with the right two or three people.  :-\

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Re: Musicians Bridging the Gap
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2008, 05:49:35 PM »
Quote from: Fenix on May 25, 2008, 05:43:30 PM
I like you new axe man. (OK i know that is the right spelling of "axe" but LGM is telling me its the wrong spelling  :-\)

Anyways...

I think it would not be easy at all;l for CCM music and gospel to be mixed together. The styles are so different. CCM uses very simple harmonies and progressions, gospel likes it "phat" so to speak. The one collaboration i heard was on Kirk Franklin's 'Fight Of My Life" with Toby Mac. The song is called "I Am God" but it is definitely not a gospel song at all, it is so rock.

On a side note though, Israel & NB do a pretty good job of having both elements in their music. Maybe that's why somepeople don't really like him. They are not too sure what to make of the sound.

Quote from: sjonathan02 on May 25, 2008, 05:48:18 PM
Racism? No. A preference based on culture? Yes. Two completely different things, IMHO. There are Gospel artists who have redone many CCM artists' music (Donnie McClurkin and Jonathan Nelson come immediately to mind); so, I wouldn't mind seeing Chris Tomlin and Jonathan doing a collabo (you could throw Jason Nelson in there, as well).


Then, you have guys like Alvin Slaughter and Ron Kenoly who are more CCM than Gospel, to start; at least, IMO.


Interesting question. I feel like because of the definite differences in the two styles a collabo would be interesting with the right two or three people.  :-\

Spooky.

On another note, working on a Sunday again, eh?  :-\
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Re: Musicians Bridging the Gap
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2008, 06:01:33 PM »
Quote from: sjonathan02 on May 25, 2008, 05:49:35 PM
Spooky.

On another note, working on a Sunday again, eh?  :-\

Sup mane.

Nah i'm not working today. I happened to be in DC with my laptop and found a free wi-fi connection so i am using this rare opportunity to shop for a new TV.  ;D

Sjon i tell you the Spirit is one man. We are both saying the same thing.

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Re: Musicians Bridging the Gap
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2008, 06:05:24 PM »
Quote from: Fenix on May 25, 2008, 06:01:33 PM
Sup mane.

Nah i'm not working today. I happened to be in DC with my laptop and found a free wi-fi connection so i am using this rare opportunity to shop for a new TV.  ;D

Sjon i tell you the Spirit is one man. We are both saying the same thing.

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Indeed, it is, my brother. You know what's funny? You and I might be the only ones to feel that way about this subject.
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Re: Musicians Bridging the Gap
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2008, 06:11:03 PM »
Quote from: sjonathan02 on May 25, 2008, 06:05:24 PM
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Indeed, it is, my brother. You know what's funny? You and I might be the only ones to feel that way about this subject.

BTW shouldn't you be fellowshipping with your family? Get off LGM man. Sundays on LGM are for us unmarried folk. :)
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Re: Musicians Bridging the Gap
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2008, 06:13:05 PM »
Quote from: Fenix on May 25, 2008, 06:11:03 PM
BTW shouldn't you be fellowshipping with your family? Get off LGM man. Sundays on LGM are for us unmarried folk. :)


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Re: Musicians Bridging the Gap
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2008, 06:36:11 PM »
Quote from: sjonathan02 on May 25, 2008, 06:13:05 PM

 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Well i'm off LGM now man. Borders is closing. :(

Oh sorry FS for hi-jacking your thread. It IS Sjon's fault, he should have known i would take the bait of working on Sundays. :)
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Re: Musicians Bridging the Gap
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2008, 06:44:07 PM »
Quote from: Fenix on May 25, 2008, 06:36:11 PM
Well i'm off LGM now man. Borders is closing. :(

Oh sorry FS for hi-jacking your thread. It IS Sjon's fault, he should have known i would take the bait of working on Sundays. :)

Lata, mane!! And, way to throw your boy under the bus.  ::) :D
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Re: Musicians Bridging the Gap
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2008, 07:25:47 PM »
Quote from: Fenix on May 25, 2008, 05:43:30 PM
I like you new axe man. (OK i know that is the right spelling of "axe" but LGM is telling me its the wrong spelling  :-\)

Anyways...

I think it would not be easy at all;l for CCM music and gospel to be mixed together. The styles are so different. CCM uses very simple harmonies and progressions, gospel likes it "phat" so to speak. The one collaboration i heard was on Kirk Franklin's 'Fight Of My Life" with Toby Mac. The song is called "I Am God" but it is definitely not a gospel song at all, it is so rock.

On a side note though, Israel & NB do a pretty good job of having both elements in their music. Maybe that's why somepeople don't really like him. They are not too sure what to make of the sound.


Thanks; actually she's not new.  I've had her since '93 and she's my Number 1.  I honestly could be happy without ever buying another guitar becaus this is the ONE (but hey, this is America: why settle for just one? ;))!  I dont't think you can catagorize CCM in such general terms.  There is a definate differnce in style, but both CCM and Gospel music are quite diverse genres.  CCM can range from simple, "bubble-gum" pop to substantial musical arrangements.  I think that there can be some collaborations between certain artists on certan songs, but the music would likely lean more towrds one style than the other.  A few years ago, there was a CD titled "Bridges" that featured various Gospel and CCM artists.  And there have been other collaborations as well including an appearance by Fred Hammond on one of Bob Carlye's songs.
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Re: Musicians Bridging the Gap
« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2008, 09:51:13 PM »
Quote from: sjonathan02 on May 25, 2008, 05:48:18 PM
Racism? No. A preference based on culture? Yes. Two completely different things, IMHO. There are Gospel artists who have redone many CCM artists' music (Donnie McClurkin and Jonathan Nelson come immediately to mind); so, I wouldn't mind seeing Chris Tomlin and Jonathan doing a collabo (you could throw Jason Nelson in there, as well).





I agree, Blacks and whites GENERALY, NOT ALWAYS, prefer different types of music. White people love guitars and rock music. Therefore thats how thier gospel music is gonna sound.

Black folks on the other hand usually prefer soul music, so its no suprise that thats how our gospel music is gonna sound. There are so many CCM Praise and worship songs that the black church has redone and made thier own. The words and melodies stay the same; we just conform it to our musical standards.

I have no problem listening to a "songs 4 worship cd", but I'd rather hear the same songs with a little flavor. kinda like how black peoples food has more flavor
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