Can we show the Winans the respect they deserve Please? Part 1

[beginner1000]

Don't even get me started on Marvin Winans.  Did you know he wrote most of their songs and played the keys on most of their joints.

His voice has always stood out not only in gospel but I would put him up there with Marvin Gaye and any of the top secular singers of all time. Guy(Teddy Riley, Aaron Hall) and R. Kelly have openly admitted that they idolize him.

Also Thanks for the tip seemunny I will check it out.  And Marvin's new Cd is the bomb!

[beginner1000]

Correction thanks for the tip Cas10 I will check it out

[cas10a]

Correction thanks for the tip Cas10 I will check it out

Your Welcome Bruh...and I'll add more to the post when I have time...I was a big Winan's fan back in the day/along with "Take 6" maybe I'll post some chords to their accapella songs...lol ...anyway, just haven't played anything by the Winans in years, but I use to play a lot of the Winans songs....

[seemunny]

        WOW       

Hmmm, wondering exactly what T-block thought i said to cause so much shock...lol Because no one can dispute that Shawn, Marlon, and Keenan Ivory Winans couldn't carry a tune with a tow truck!

[Ramar]

I don't think it has to much to do with the Winans, it has to do with the radio.  It seems like churches today want to play "what's hot", rather just picking good music.

Well, that is the problem... the winans did contemporary music... key syllables:temporary.... a lot of their songs simply didn't stand the test of time... The Winans music was equivalent to what groups like Mary Mary, Out of Eden, Trinity 5:7,Cross Movement,etc. are doing today.... they had to constantly update andreinvent themselves to be relevant. That's the good thing about Gospel (not contemporary) music though, it never gets old-- songs like Order My Steps and The Battle Is The Lord's are still as good as they were 10 years ago!!!!

Now with that being said... I was and still am a HUGE FAN of the Winans... I grew up in the late 80s listening to Let My People Go, Decisions, and All Out= My favorite songs are Love Has No Color,How Can You Live Without Christ, Very Real Way, and Tradewinds...

IBut to be honest, i never did like the way Marlon, Shawn, & Keenan Ivory Winans sang. They just don't have it.[/color]

Those were the Wayans Brothers not the Winans!!! LOL!!


But to the original poster, If you need chords, hit me up, and I'll be glad to give you the chords to the music, I was just playing Millions Didn't Make It earlier today!!!

[cas10a]

Well, that is the problem... the winans did contemporary music... key syllables:temporary.... a lot of their songs simply didn't stand the test of time... The Winans music was equivalent to what groups like Mary Mary, Out of Eden, Trinity 5:7,Cross Movement,etc. are doing today.... they had to constantly update andreinvent themselves to be relevant. That's the good thing about Gospel (not contemporary) music though, it never gets old-- songs like Order My Steps and The Battle Is The Lord's are still as good as they were 10 years ago!!!!

Now with that being said... I was and still am a HUGE FAN of the Winans... I grew up in the late 80s listening to Let My People Go, Decisions, and All Out= My favorite songs are Love Has No Color,How Can You Live Without Christ, Very Real Way, and Tradewinds...
 

Those were the Wayans Brothers not the Winans!!! LOL!!


But to the original poster, If you need chords, hit me up, and I'll be glad to give you the chords to the music, I was just playing Millions Didn't Make It earlier today!!!

I'd have to disagree with the Winans music being temporary...It is moreso that they are not played as much nowdays.  Song such as Tomorrow, The Question Is, You are Everything and many others by them are timeless in my opinion. 

[Ramar]

I'd have to disagree with the Winans music being temporary...It is moreso that they are not played as much nowdays.  Song such as Tomorrow, The Question Is, You are Everything and many others by them are timeless in my opinion. 

Well, that's true... but what about songs like "It's Time" and "payday"?? New Jack Swing isn't popular anymore... It was a temporary thing... Those songs disappeared like the high-top fade!!!

I wasn't referring to ALL of their music... I mean even Mary Mary have "timeless" songs like "Yesterday"....

The reason nobody is posting songs by the Winans on here is because most of their songs weren't popular in the church(they were popular on the radio, but not in church)... I mean how many choirs have you heard lately singing "Let My People Go" or "It's Time"??

[cas10a]

Well, that's true... but what about songs like "It's Time" and "payday"?? New Jack Swing isn't popular anymore... It was a temporary thing... Those songs disappeared like the high-top fade!!!

I wasn't referring to ALL of their music... I mean even Mary Mary have "timeless" songs like "Yesterday"....

The reason nobody is posting songs by the Winans on here is because most of their songs weren't popular in the church(they were popular on the radio, but not in church)... I mean how many choirs have you heard lately singing "Let My People Go" or "It's Time"??

I get your point...

...but I'll say this, I remember the songs, "It's Time" and "Let My People Go" and to my knowledge I don't remember any choirs doing those songs back in the day, so why would they do them now (doesn't mean the songs were temporary, I remember them)?  The Winans were a Gospel "Group", not a "Choir"...however, they still had timeless songs that "Choirs" have attempted, ie "The Question Is" and so on.  IMHO I don't think the Winans ever will be considered a "temporary" group, they have been around way too long and continue to do God's will in music and ministry...

[Ramar]

I get your point...

...but I'll say this, I remember the songs, "It's Time" and "Let My People Go" and to my knowledge I don't remember any choirs doing those songs back in the day, so why would they do them now (doesn't mean the songs were temporary, I remember them)?  The Winans were a Gospel "Group", not a "Choir"...however, they still had timeless songs that "Choirs" have attempted, ie "The Question Is" and so on.  IMHO I don't think the Winans ever will be considered a "temporary" group, they have been around way too long and continue to do God's will in music and ministry...

I'm sorry... I used the wrong words, "temporary" was the wrong word... lol... I was trying to act smart... but you DID get my point right?? I STILL listen to them... I love their All Out and Decisions albums... and like you said they have been around way too long to be considered temporary... Sorry Winans Fans!!!

[Ramar]

But if anyone needs chords to any of their songs, just hit me up and I can hook you up!!

[cas10a]

But if anyone needs chords to any of their songs, just hit me up and I can hook you up!!

Ramar, send them to those who need or post them here in the link below, we're on the same page, this thread is a work in progress and I will get back to it also and post more chords...

http://www.learngospelmusic.com/forums/index.php/topic,57239.0.html

[Ramar]

OK... I will do that... Thanks

[cas10a]

OK... I will do that... Thanks

 

[beginner1000]

I was waiting until I paid my full LGM membership fee so I can load the audio files, but I had to respond to Ramar.

In my opinion the 80's were the best time for me with the Winans. Now since that time they have had more hits, but the New Jack Swing stuff where Teddy Riley and R Kelly were executive producers was a different era of the Winans that I still feel it but can sound quite dated if you listen to it now.

Ramar the songs that touch me and that I would beg you and cas10a and anyone else who feels like posting are:
Slow to Medium Ballads
Finders keepers, Trust In God, Long Time Coming, Goodness Mercy and Grace, For We May Never Know,  Bring back the Days of yea and nea, Everything you Touch (whenever you get a chance to finish Cas10a and thanks for Uphold Me)

Fast uptempo Songs
Restoration, If ever I fall, I believe, Let My people go

There are some more I will put them up when I remember them.

Ramar this is my question. As you go through and listen or play these songs when you are chording them out, don't these songs sound just as good today as they did when they first came out? Could these songs rock and move the crowd today if played live on Sunday Morning with a choir or a praise team?

[Ramar]

Ramar this is my question. As you go through and listen or play these songs when you are chording them out, don't these songs sound just as good today as they did when they first came out? Could these songs rock and move the crowd today if played live on Sunday Morning with a choir or a praise team?

Yeah, they do... they are still very touching to me... They were all I listened to growing up.... I still cry when I hear Carvin and Michael Winans smooth falsetto on "When You Cry", "Long Time Coming" and Marvin Winans on "Millions" and countless others... I was listening to the Winans before I ever heard of "Can't Nobody Do Me Like Jesus", "Victory Is Mine" and any other congregational songs you can hear in church. I too feel like they deserve more respect and more recognition, in fact I found this thread by searching for "The Winans" on this site.

But yeah, I will chord out those songs that you requested in the forum that cas10a directed me to:
http://www.learngospelmusic.com/forums/index.php/topic,57239.0.html

I also chorded out their song "A Friend" here:
http://www.learngospelmusic.com/forums/index.php/topic,52423.msg599377.html#msg599377

[beginner1000]

Thanks Ramar I really appreciate it. When I started this post I was trying to get chords as well as bring back some awareness to the greatest gospel group of all time in my opinion.

If you think about it before the Winans you just had choirs (hawkins and all them), Mighty clouds of Joy, Rance Allen (I will do a seperate post on him later) who the Winans got a lot of their style from if you listen to his earlier work he could do the Marvin voice and the Carvin falsetto all by himself.

What I am getting at is The Winans and the Clark Sisters started something that was just as important as what Prince or Michael Jackson started and it will stand the test of time.

What happened was after Commissioned choirs took over again Marvin Winans became a Pastor and no other Quartets or trios stepped up to claim the throne. If you look at the success of Marvin's new solo album you see that the Winans still deserve top billing (If you listen you see he did'nt mess around with any New Jack Swing stuff he went straight back to the roots of it).

What I always wanted to do is bring more of the Winans into Service on Sundays and I appreciate the LGM Family helping me achieve that goal.

[beginner1000]

I am not gon lie some of the New Jack Swing stuff was tight!  "A friend" had Aaron Hall doing the cameo on the song and on the video when he was still the man. That was a great song!

[momuzik]

Sometimes the songs we prefer tell our age. I'm pretty sure if LGM was up and running in the late 80's and early 90's, you would've had some Winan songs come across here.

Shoot, I might want someone to chord out some James Cleveland, Douglass Miller or Milton Brunson (how old do you think I am?)

[pianofriend]

Greetings in the wonderful name of our Lord and Saviour Jesus. I am new to this forum, just signed up. I was wondering if anybody has the chords for The Winans "Finders Keepers", would really appreciate it.