Should Musicians OR church Folk wear ear rings?

[under13]

Ooh I know about some dress codes. White folk holiness standards are something else!! I've been to churches where no one on the platform was to wear any form of jewelry. I've also heard of preachers preaching against ties (they pointed downwards), levi's (the label was by the butt and drew attention to men's heinies, hairbows, curls in the front of your face, and thongs (sandals AND underwear). The junk people come up with!! 

Didnt Jesus Wear thongs?

[Travis T]

At my church no MEMBER is permitted to where jewelry. That means no necklaces,no earings,anklechains and the like. The men are not permitted to have have braids or long hair. No weave or wigs for the women. Women have to wear a headcovering on their head. We also follow another very  controversial part of dress code, am sure you guys know what that is, o and know make-up. I have scripture why we do these things if your wondering.

[under13]

. I have scripture why we do these things if your wondering.

yeah we're wondering 

[apostoliczak]

I know! I even have a pair of Jesus thongs! Lol. Ha. The reason why the guy preached against tvs is because the pointed towards the male special part

[Travis T]

I wanted yall to see a sample of the church I attend, NO EAR RINGS, AND NO HOLD BACKS !

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[under13]

So where are those Bible verses tha said that

At my church no MEMBER is permitted to where jewelry. That means no necklaces,no earings,anklechains and the like. The men are not permitted to have have braids or long hair. No weave or wigs for the women. Women have to wear a headcovering on their head. We also follow another very  controversial part of dress code, am sure you guys know what that is, o and know make-up. I have scripture why we do these things if your wondering.

What Bible verses support those views?

[Travis T]

I said that we have scriptures why practice these things. It all comes down to the matter interpretation, but these are some

Isaiah 3:16-24
Jeremiah 4:30
Leviticus 19:28
I Timothy 2:9
I Peter 3:3
I Corinthians 11:14
I Corinthians 11:5

[under13]

Isaiah 3:16-24

in that same passage it says that The Lord will also take away undergarments and money purses. So do your women not carry purses? Do Yall not wear undergarments?

[Travis T]

Which verse are you refering to ?

[under13]

Which verse are you refering to ?

Isaiah 3:16-24 (New American Standard Bible)

Judah's Women Denounced
    16Moreover, the LORD said, "Because the (A)daughters of Zion are proud
         And walk with heads held high and seductive eyes,
         And go along with mincing steps
         And tinkle the bangles on their feet,
    17Therefore the Lord will afflict the scalp of the daughters of Zion with scabs,
         And the LORD will make their foreheads bare."
 18In that day the Lord will take away the beauty of their anklets, headbands, (B)crescent ornaments,

 19dangling earrings, bracelets, veils,

 20(C)headdresses, ankle chains, sashes, perfume boxes, amulets,

 21finger rings, (D)nose rings,

 22festal robes, outer tunics, cloaks, money purses,

 23hand mirrors, undergarments, turbans and veils.
    24Now it will come about that instead of sweet (E)perfume there will be putrefaction;
         Instead of a belt, a rope;
         Instead of (F)well-set hair, a (G)plucked-out scalp;
         Instead of fine clothes, a (H)donning of sackcloth;
         And branding instead of beauty.

[Gospelstar21]

I use to wear earrings like a yr ago..I stopped wearing them because I felt a conviction. Not about wearing them period but I knew that there were so many churches that hadn't gotten to the point that they could swallow something like that..especially when you're in a leadership position, so I took them off. When I go to churches to minister, I don't want them to be staring at my earrings, I want them to hear my message. Now, one could say, "if they don't receive you then that's them," that's true, but I try to always keep in mind that it is not about me AT ALL, but it's all about Jesus.  I felt like God was telling me, you're not getting rid of them for you. You're doing it for My Glory. It was a sacrifice I was willing to make for the Glory of the Lord. Like someone said a few pages ago..if you are feeling a conviction about it then maybe you should pray and ask God for direction. I however, am not against wearing earrings, I don't discriminate!

[THE WOLFMAN]

I said that we have scriptures why practice these things. It all comes down to the matter interpretation, but these are some

Isaiah 3:16-24
The items were taken away BECAUSE the daughters were "haughty", arrogant.

Jeremiah 4:30
The Prophet Jeremiah(as God's mouthpiece) was addressing the people, as if to say "look at you!" not to an individual

Leviticus 19:28
Now THERE is a command. Could be open for interpretation, but it's  more clear

I Timothy 2:9
huh?


I Peter 3:3
nothing to do with apparel.


I Corinthians 11:14
Up for discussion and interpretation.

I Corinthians 11:5  HUH?

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[Steelpulz]

Isaiah 3:16-24 (New American Standard Bible)

Judah's Women Denounced
    16Moreover, the LORD said, "Because the (A)daughters of Zion are proud
         And walk with heads held high and seductive eyes,
         And go along with mincing steps
         And tinkle the bangles on their feet,
    17Therefore the Lord will afflict the scalp of the daughters of Zion with scabs,
         And the LORD will make their foreheads bare."
 18In that day the Lord will take away the beauty of their anklets, headbands, (B)crescent ornaments,

 19dangling earrings, bracelets, veils,

 20(C)headdresses, ankle chains, sashes, perfume boxes, amulets,

 21finger rings, (D)nose rings,

 22festal robes, outer tunics, cloaks, money purses,

 23hand mirrors, undergarments, turbans and veils.
    24Now it will come about that instead of sweet (E)perfume there will be putrefaction;
         Instead of a belt, a rope;
         Instead of (F)well-set hair, a (G)plucked-out scalp;
         Instead of fine clothes, a (H)donning of sackcloth;
         And branding instead of beauty.

Nothing in this scripture has anything at all to do with whether it is proper for today's people of God to wear the things mentionjed in the verse. It was specifically addressed to the pride and haughtiness to JUDAH'S WOMEN at a particular time in history. Now do the women of the churches that follow this doctrine have scabs on their scalps. Do they smell putrefied? (Like rotten meat)

[Travis T]

Sir, if you read what I wrote the scriptures I gave were not just for earings, they were for other things as well(if you didnt know,not trying to be smart but humble). As a far a the scripture in Leviticus being a commandment and not being up for disscusion, that is disscussable by it self. The book of Leviticus is a book of the law, which is something that a lot of preachers do not like to mess with because a lot of them do not know to obey it or not because of scriptures like this: Gal. 3:10-13,19,24,25,4:4-5 and others(I am tired right now,and do not feel like typing). Yes it was a commandment to the children of Israel  just like Deuteronomy 22:11 and the other scriptures like the ones concerning the diet of and Israelite,but most belivers dont follow Deut.22:11 and many other things of the law, for example Deuteronomy 14:3-8, but when you come over to the New Testament you gey this: Colossians 2:16, I Tim. 4:3-5. So when you get or give Old Testament scripture it is best to give New Testament to balance the two passages out(I belive this particulair passage(Lev.19:28) is still in full effect. I belive that men,and women alike are to adorn themselves in modest apparel, not getting dress to showoff for others, but to be presentable to others as they present their bodies before GOD(Rom.12:1). As for Isaiah 3 if you look at the 16 verse two key words in their are MOREOVER(in addition to what has been said) and BECAUSE(due to the fact that)so due to the fact that they are haughty these things will be taken away from them and somethings will be replaced with things of discomfort,and pain.In this passage the things are not being replaced because what they are, it because of the attitude,character,and ego of the individuals wereing these things. I belive that sometimes these things(I am talking about Jewlery here) can add to the battle of staying humble,modest,and temperate, as well as MANY other things. I belive that a part church world is taking the grace that Jesus brought comparied to the bondage of the law, and turned it into a excuse,and validated explination to do basiclly whatever they want,and have took the scripture where the spirt of the Lord is there is liberty and misused and interpeted it. I belive that it's time for the Body of Christ to get up, stop compromising, and fulfill our position that God has called us into. So finally, MODEST AND HUMBLE IS THE WAY. Me I dont want holes in the church house and I dont want holes in my tabernacle(or temple of God both are used in scripture to compare the human body as a dwelling place of the Spirit of God).If we look at what Jesus said about the Holy Ghost(St. John 16:7-11,12-15), then receive it, then obey it. Heaven will be our home. Sorry for mistakes I am tired Thanks if you read this, and God Bless(oh and guys I am only 15 so most of you have more experience than me in the word so thank God for what i know and pray for me)

[Steelpulz]

What about Leviticus 19: 20'(X)Now if a man lies carnally with a woman who is a slave acquired for another man, but who has in no way been redeemed nor given her freedom, there shall be punishment; they shall not, however, be put to death, because she was not free; 23'When you enter the land and plant all kinds of trees for food, then you shall count their fruit as forbidden. Three years it shall be forbidden to you; it shall not be eaten.

 24'But in the fourth year all its fruit shall be holy, an offering of praise to the LORD.

 25'In the fifth year you are to eat of its fruit, that its yield may increase for you; I am the LORD your God.

 26'You shall not eat anything (Z)with the blood, nor practice (AA)divination or soothsaying.

 27'(AB)You shall not round off the side-growth of your heads nor harm the edges of your beard.

 30'You shall (AD)keep My sabbaths and (AE)revere My sanctuary; I am the LORD. (Does your church worship on Sunday instead of the Sabbath (Sat.)

32'(AG)You shall rise up before the grayheaded and honor the aged, and you shall revere your God; I am the LORD.

 33'(AH)When a stranger resides with you in your land, you shall not do him wrong.

 34'The stranger who resides with you shall be to you as the native among you, and (AI)you shall love him as yourself, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt; I am the LORD your God.
 What about all of the other commandments in the chapter. Why do some churches pick and choose the scriptures they enforce, if it all applies to us?

[Travis T]

Gal. 3:10-13,19,24,25,4:4-5 Read This and tell me what you think about the other verses, and also Col.2:14-16.

[Steelpulz]

Sir, if you read what I wrote the scriptures I gave were not just for earings, they were for other things as well(if you didnt know,not trying to be smart but humble). As a far a the scripture in Leviticus being a commandment and not being up for disscusion, that is disscussable by it self. The book of Leviticus is a book of the law, which is something that a lot of preachers do not like to mess with because a lot of them do not know to obey it or not because of scriptures like this: Gal. 3:10-13,19,24,25,4:4-5 and others(I am tired right now,and do not feel like typing). Yes it was a commandment to the children of Israel  just like Deuteronomy 22:11 and the other scriptures like the ones concerning the diet of and Israelite,but most belivers dont follow Deut.22:11 and many other things of the law, for example Deuteronomy 14:3-8, but when you come over to the New Testament you gey this: Colossians 2:16, I Tim. 4:3-5. So when you get or give Old Testament scripture it is best to give New Testament to balance the two passages out(I belive this particulair passage(Lev.19:28) is still in full effect. I belive that men,and women alike are to adorn themselves in modest apparel, not getting dress to showoff for others, but to be presentable to others as they present their bodies before GOD(Rom.12:1). As for Isaiah 3 if you look at the 16 verse two key words in their are MOREOVER(in addition to what has been said) and BECAUSE(due to the fact that)so due to the fact that they are haughty these things will be taken away from them and somethings will be replaced with things of discomfort,and pain.In this passage the things are not being replaced because what they are, it because of the attitude,character,and ego of the individuals wereing these things. I belive that sometimes these things(I am talking about Jewlery here) can add to the battle of staying humble,modest,and temperate, as well as MANY other things. I belive that a part church world is taking the grace that Jesus brought comparied to the bondage of the law, and turned it into a excuse,and validated explination to do basiclly whatever they want,and have took the scripture where the spirt of the Lord is there is liberty and misused and interpeted it. I belive that it's time for the Body of Christ to get up, stop compromising, and fulfill our position that God has called us into. So finally, MODEST AND HUMBLE IS THE WAY. Me I dont want holes in the church house and I dont want holes in my tabernacle(or temple of God both are used in scripture to compare the human body as a dwelling place of the Spirit of God).If we look at what Jesus said about the Holy Ghost(St. John 16:7-11,12-15), then receive it, then obey it. Heaven will be our home. Sorry for mistakes I am tired Thanks if you read this, and God Bless(oh and guys I am only 15 so most of you have more experience than me in the word so thank God for what i know and pray for me)

Hey travis, I hope you aren't taking this the wrong way. I agree with much of what you said here about humility and modesty. I disagree that followers of Christ are obliged to keep all of the Old Testament rules. that is why I listed some of the other verses in Lev. 19. No church today, that i know of, follows those rules.

[Travis T]

I understand, thanks for clearing that up. 

[Travis T]

Leviticus 19:28
Now THERE is a command. Could be open for interpretation, but it's  more clear

I misread this just for a thumbs up.

[Steelpulz]

Gal. 3:10-13,19,24,25,4:4-5 Read This and tell me what you think about the other verses, and also Col.2:14-16.

Gal. 3:10-13
10And all who depend on the Law [who are seeking to be justified by obedience to the Law of rituals] are under a curse and doomed to disappointment and destruction, for it is written in the Scriptures, Cursed (accursed, devoted to destruction, doomed to eternal punishment) be everyone who does not continue to abide (live and remain) by all the precepts and commands written in the Book of the Law and to practice them.(C)

    11Now it is evident that no person is justified (declared righteous and brought into right standing with God) through the Law, for the Scripture says, The man in right standing with God [the just, the righteous] shall live by and out of faith and he who through and by faith is declared righteous and in right standing with God shall live.(D)

    12But the Law does not rest on faith [does not require faith, has nothing to do with faith], for it itself says, He who does them [the things prescribed by the Law] shall live by them [not by faith].(E)

    13Christ purchased our freedom [redeeming us] from the curse (doom) of the Law [and its condemnation] by [Himself] becoming a curse for us, for it is written [in the Scriptures], Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree (is crucified);(F)

Gal. 3:19
19What then was the purpose of the Law? It was added [later on, after the promise, to disclose and expose to men their guilt] because of transgressions and [to make men more conscious of the sinfulness] of sin; and it was intended to be in effect until the Seed (the Descendant, the Heir) should come, to and concerning Whom the promise had been made. And it [the Law] was arranged and ordained and appointed through the instrumentality of angels [and was given] by the hand (in the person) of a go-between [Moses, an intermediary person between God and man].

Gal. 3:24-25
24So that the Law served [a][to us Jews] as our trainer [our guardian, our guide to Christ, to lead us] until Christ [came], that we might be justified (declared righteous, put in right standing with God) by and through faith.

    25But now that the faith has come, we are no longer under a trainer (the guardian of our childhood).
Gal. 4:4-5
4But when the proper time had fully come, God sent His Son, born of a woman, born subject to [the regulations of] the Law,

    5To purchase the freedom of (to ransom, to redeem, to [a]atone for) those who were subject to the Law, that we might be adopted and have sonship conferred upon us [and be recognized as God's sons].

Bottomline, those scriptures mean that neither the Jews who followed Christ nor us are subject to the law by works, but are free in Christ through faith. (Read the bold print)