I've used some Trek ll stuff and it's good,but like a lot of things-I pay real $ like everybody else.So;as soon as a get a break;I'll pass it on family.I haven't had a chance to play a C1,but few friends say it IS the new top dog@99 1/2%.Agree with Ryan,best deal is thru a real leslie;not cheap to get to that point though.WORD says money answers a lot of things!!