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Offline Tchord1

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Should The Church Help
« on: August 26, 2008, 10:21:57 PM »
Hi om a keyboard player that don't get paid to
play at my church but thats ok.  Cause I don't
play for money but I think it's wrong for the church
not to help me get my keyboard fix when it's haveing
problem need to be fix. I only have one keyboard that
I take to church every Choir Practice, every Church
Service I am a faithful Musicians I don't understand
mybe it's just me I help the for church out for years but the
church can't help me out. I would love to hear your
input.

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Re: Should The Church Help
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2008, 10:31:19 PM »
What does it say in your contract? You dont have a contract? Then they dont have to give you anything. I honestly think that they should fix your board as well as buy a board for the church, so that you dont have to bring your own.

I think this is an example of a church taking advantage of a musician. I dont mind playing free for a while, but I'd have to draw the line somewhere. I also wouldnt bring my own gear to a church. The church has money for everything else, but does not want to support the music ministry. Makes no sense.

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Re: Should The Church Help
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2008, 02:05:01 AM »
Did you really come right out and ask them to buy a keyboard?  When you did or do ask, did/do you have a list of possible boards and their prices?  It is totally unreasonable to expect a person to haul and use their own equipment to play and not be paid anything.  (unless they just want to do it)

Sometimes, though, if nothing is said, people might think that you are satisfied doing it as a donation to the church. Some might not even know that you are not being paid.

You can get one of several acceptable to good keyboards for less than $500.00. This amount is well within the reach of almost any church. A big church might want a more expensive and comprehensive board.

If they knew your concern(which is very reasonable)it would seem very unlikely that they wouldn't act.  If they don't, the decision to be made is yours.  In any case, not an easy one.

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Re: Should The Church Help
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2008, 03:48:28 AM »
You can get one of several acceptable to good keyboards for less than $500.00. This amount is well within the reach of almost any church. A big church might want a more expensive and comprehensive board.


What boards can i get for that price?
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Re: Should The Church Help
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2008, 05:56:21 AM »
I might can see why the church won't fix your board - it's your board, not the church's board. If they put money into a keyboardist's board, what stopping them from packing up and leaving right afterwards. But in your case, they ought to help you (seeing as how you're playing for free) and consider it some form of compensation for your efforts.

What you could do is just don't bring your board at all (since it's broke). After a couple of Sundays singing acapella, they should be ready to buy a board for the church.

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Re: Should The Church Help
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2008, 06:54:51 AM »
What you could do is just don't bring your board at all (since it's broke). After a couple of Sundays singing acapella, they should be ready to buy a board for the church.

CO to da SIGNage!!!  However, if the Lord is telling u to bring ur board anyway and u disobey Him, well then u got a whole other problem on your hands.
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Re: Should The Church Help
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2008, 07:59:36 AM »
What boards can i get for that price?
                                                                  Casio (or its generic counterpart, Radio Shack).... Yamaha (Not a Motif, definitely)

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Re: Should The Church Help
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2008, 08:18:50 AM »
                                                                  Casio (or its generic counterpart, Radio Shack).... Yamaha (Not a Motif, definitely)

A radio shack board? I rebuke you. ;D
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Re: Should The Church Help
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2008, 08:59:56 AM »
A radio shack board? I rebuke you. ;D

troof be tole,

the Radio shack brand, "Realistic", is a casio with another name on it.

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Re: Should The Church Help
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2008, 09:07:00 AM »
What boards can i get for that price?

Roland xp-50

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Re: Should The Church Help
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2008, 09:42:25 AM »
The Casio WK 3800 is a decent inexpensive board when played through a good amp.  The Casio Privia series 88 key digital pianos sound very good. Yamaha has some good 76 key units for less than $500.00. The Roland Juno D is not much more.  Korg has an inexpensive 61 key board for not much more than $500.00. 

If given an upper limit of $500.00, one could shop with some assurance(not forgetting church discounts and tax free numbers)that they would find an acceptable to good unit. 

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Re: Should The Church Help
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2008, 09:49:17 AM »
The Casio WK 3800 is a decent inexpensive board when played through a good amp.  The Casio Privia series 88 key digital pianos sound very good. Yamaha has some good 76 key units for less than $500.00. The Roland Juno D is not much more.  Korg has an inexpensive 61 key board for not much more than $500.00. 

If given an upper limit of $500.00, one could shop with some assurance(not forgetting church discounts and tax free numbers)that they would find an acceptable to good unit. 

berbie


Yeah the Casio sounds alright, but its not built for pro use, its cheaply built. it will get tore up in a year or two.

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Re: Should The Church Help
« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2008, 10:13:02 AM »
Thanks for all of your input

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Re: Should The Church Help
« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2008, 10:26:58 AM »
Yeah the Casio sounds alright, but its not built for pro use, its cheaply built. it will get tore up in a year or two.



troof.  the Wk series cant take a good bang. Does sound great tho.

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Re: Should The Church Help
« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2008, 10:27:59 AM »
The Casio WK 3800 is a decent inexpensive board when played through a good amp.  The Casio Privia series 88 key digital pianos sound very good. Yamaha has some good 76 key units for less than $500.00. The Roland Juno D is not much more.  Korg has an inexpensive 61 key board for not much more than $500.00. 

If given an upper limit of $500.00, one could shop with some assurance(not forgetting church discounts and tax free numbers)that they would find an acceptable to good unit. 

berbie


This is excellent berbie, thanks. I will not of course look at casio boards...hate 'em. I will look into the Yamaha boards. I have only ever played Yamahas.
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Re: Should The Church Help
« Reply #15 on: August 27, 2008, 10:35:54 AM »
I try to stay away from colorful keyboards with built in speakers... They scream "amateur"!!!

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Re: Should The Church Help
« Reply #16 on: August 27, 2008, 10:51:01 AM »
I try to stay away from colorful keyboards with built in speakers... They scream "amateur"!!!

They are portable which is the point. :)
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Re: Should The Church Help
« Reply #17 on: August 27, 2008, 12:07:02 PM »
They are portable which is the point. :)
Very true, I can get a casio right now and never have to use it for the sounds. I bring my MKS-20 in there and I am straight.
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Re: Should The Church Help
« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2008, 12:25:28 PM »
Very true, I can get a casio right now and never have to use it for the sounds. I bring my MKS-20 in there and I am straight.

Not the WK. (which stands for "wide keyboard) The 76 key version is huge and cumbersome to move. Thats why I copped an XP-10. I just have to figure out how to use it as a controler

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Re: Should The Church Help
« Reply #19 on: August 27, 2008, 12:54:16 PM »
Not the WK. (which stands for "wide keyboard) The 76 key version is huge and cumbersome to move. Thats why I copped an XP-10. I just have to figure out how to use it as a controler

I did a bit of online research on this board. I dunno man...28 note polyphony? That's even lower than my PSR which has 32 note polyphony and costs about $200 less.

How are the sounds like? What speakers do you run 'em through?
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