I'm gonna say this and then I'm done. Thomas Pridgen, Chris Dave, Vinnie and Dave Weckl all have something in common. They have all fluently crossed genres throughout the years and they still sound fresh and innovative. You do not have to dig back 20 years to show their greatness. To tell you the truth, there are too many proficient and sound drummers to care about what anyone sounded like 20 years ago lol. Why would anyone care? What do you sound like today? Who's the flavor of the week? That is the realistic attitude of drumming fans...and don't say who cares what other drummers think cause we all do (hence all the defensiveness in this thread) lol. Some people have been in the game so long that their veteran status and political relationships can land them gigs alone, even though they may be washed up lol. That's why you cannot measure a drummer's greatness by how much money he makes and how many big gigs he can hold. You better know that Chris Dave doesn't make as much money and may not appear on tv as much as Teddy Campbell but...aw forget it. The 3ft pool is open all day in this thread and its free for everyone lol! Enjoy! Lol!!!