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Offline KurzLand

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How do you guys feel about this?
« on: September 01, 2008, 05:50:29 PM »
I stopped going to practice since february I think. The main reason I had was because of a job I had in hollywood. I don't have that job anymore so there really shouldn't be a reason for me not going right?

Well, now I can go but I choose not to. Let me tell you the story:

When I got there everything was great, everyone was on time and the music was tight. But after a few problems people started not caring about the music ministry and it all went down hill. This happened 3 years ago btw. I kept going on time and practicing the songs and bringing lead sheets in and stuff for 3 years. I was the only one that cared about the music. After trying to get things back together and make everything professional I gave up. I still went to practice but not with that enthusiam (mispelled?) I had before.

So I got that job in hollywood and couldn't go anymore. Now that I don't have that job I just don't feel like going because:

1. Everything/everyone is unprofessional. After playing with musicians in school that knew what they played and acted professionaly then I feel like these guys don't give a care in the world for the music ministry. I have even talked to the leader and he agrees but never does anything about it.

The sound system sucks. Everytime it sounds good someone has to go to the controls and mess everything up. Everyone has their little ideas on sound and we never get anything sounding good. We do have a "sound engineer" but he is just there during service and he leaves right away. He doesn't even ask about opinions or anything.

2.There is a lady playing keys already on practice so if I go I will just be wasting my time. The reason she is there is because we needed someone to fill in for some services. But now she decided to stay and be a member. We have 2 services in the morning on sunday. One at 9am and the other at 11:30am. I show up for the 11:30am because I live 1hour20min from church. She goes to the 9am service so of course practice is for the 9am service.

The leader played keyboards at first for the 9am service but then he stopped going to practice for I don't know what reason so they got her to play. Again, I could go to practice but I feel like I will be wasting my time.

3. The musicians haven't grown musically at all for 3 years. The drummer can't keep time and play pocket. He hits the cymbals every 4 measures and his bass drum is all over the place. The guitar player only strums the guitar the same way now for 3 long years. The BGVs can't/don't/won't sing for I don't know why. We only have 2 people that sing pretty good. One being my sister, she can stay in tune. And another lady that can really sing but for some reason she gets an attitude everytime we ask her to sing, so she doesn't.

4. No bass player. We had a bass player who was very awesome but he stopped going because the church couldn't pay him 50$ a week anymore. Yeah 50$ is probably not a good reason to stop going but this was his job. He plays for like 4 different churches, and all of the other churches pay him 200+$ a week I think and my church can't even give him 50$? What the.........
And this guy was no whatever musician, his a pro.

I did go to practice like a week ago, but that was because we had an event and I was happy that we finally get a chance to play in something big. So I went to practice all excited and ready 2 rock. I get there not to play keyboard but bass. We practiced for 2 weeks and we had 2 songs ready and guess what happened on the day of the event? People were late, some didn't show up, others didn't care, and this really mad me >:(. I put a lot of effort to get the songs right in an instrument that it even isn't my main instrument and we end up playing something else. Which of course came out rotten and sounding like we were complete noobs.

So I guess those are main reason why I don't go. I still play in the 11:30am service, but it is really the same songs for the last 3 years. I know a lot of songs we can play but the musicians (if you want to call them that) of course don't know them.

Sorry for the long post but I needed to get this off my somewhat hair-chested chest :D.

I'm not really looking for a solution on why I should go, but it was more like a venting thing.
But still how do guys feel about this?

God bless all of you.




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Re: How do you guys feel about this?
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2008, 07:54:30 PM »
Wow...you sound discouraged. Will pray that God will help you find a good place in all this...



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Re: How do you guys feel about this?
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2008, 01:23:19 AM »
Wow...you sound discouraged. Will pray that God will help you find a good place in all this...





Hey thanks. I am already in a christian band outside of my church that just started a week ago. I am very excited about this. Looks like this time is for real.  :)
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Re: How do you guys feel about this?
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2008, 02:20:06 PM »
Sounds like you all need a revival just for your music ministry. Maybe some workshops will help.
Separate practices just for the musicians will help also.

One thing I try to do is keep the music fresh -keep new songs in rotation, if you sing an old one, revamp it or do something different with it.

Three years singing the same songs will make anyone get bored and loose interest.

You could be the one to nudge the music director in the right direction.

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Re: How do you guys feel about this?
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2008, 02:03:07 AM »
Sounds like you all need a revival just for your music ministry. Maybe some workshops will help.

I don't think there are any workshops like that here in LA. I will take a look.

Separate practices just for the musicians will help also.

They already arrive late and are tired so no more than 1 practice a week for these guys.

One thing I try to do is keep the music fresh -keep new songs in rotation, if you sing an old one, revamp it or do something different with it.


I have changed chords here and there on some worship songs, even giving them a ballad sound with a little bosa nova feel. I have been putting latin/jazzy chords on some and they sound great. And don't let me tell you about the praise songs. 8)

Three years singing the same songs will make anyone get bored and loose interest.

You bet. :-\

You could be the one to nudge the music director in the right direction.

Tried it already by telling him a lot. Just not working. Thanks for the suggestions, will try them.

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Re: How do you guys feel about this?
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2008, 06:14:04 PM »
There will be a Gospel Workshop led by Dr. Magaret Douroux in LA at the end of Oct...

http://www.hmfgospel.com/new/reg.php


Looks like mainly choirs, but have been thinking about taking a few days off to attend. Worth it?

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Re: How do you guys feel about this?
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2008, 05:56:55 PM »
LOL!!! I'm sorry, Derik, but hearing you tell this story was hilarious!  You are so funny!

But yeah, I feel for you and I have experienced some of your frustrations as well.  I hope it gets better for you.

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Re: How do you guys feel about this?
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2008, 10:42:35 PM »
LOL!!! I'm sorry, Derik, but hearing you tell this story was hilarious!  You are so funny!

But yeah, I feel for you and I have experienced some of your frustrations as well.  I hope it gets better for you.

  ?/? You actually think my sad/miserable situation is funny? How dare you?!!! >:(  :'(

Well now that I read it again it kinda is. I will laugh at this when I grow old.
  lol :D

Things did get kind of better. The old bass player came back, BUT he still plays like we started 3 years ago. I mean he hasn't improved at all, either ?/?. It's like being taken back in time.

Also, the monitor I use is broken; it sounds popped :-\. Oh well. I'll see what other surprises are in store on sunday.  :D  
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